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Kriptini wrote: July 31st, 2025, 18:14
Hey all, first time to the forum, I found it through the Steam curator group. I have some thoughts about Tainted Grail: Fall of Avalon that I'll share here. I would reply in the post on the Steam forum that Skull already made, but the forums on that group are a huge mess so I figured it'd be more productive if I posted my thoughts here.

Although it is a good game, I think I have enough evidence to confidently say that Tainted Grail: Fall of Avalon is woke. Here's what I noticed (I'll try to avoid spoilers):
  • There are NPCs that explicitly mention being in homosexual relationships. One of them is a male Stonewarden blacksmith in act 2 who mentions his husband a couple times, and there are two women in a marriage together in the Volkner tribe of the Dal Riata in act 3.
  • The aforementioned gay Stonewarden is also part of a quest that allows a male player character to enter into a homosexual romance with another NPC in act 2. (There's also some vague mind control themes associated with the romance.)
  • Many NPCs refer to the player character by the gender-neutral "they" pronoun, even though the character creator explicitly requires you to chosoe between male or female.
  • In the Morrigan's Children organization (essentially a group of assassins that serve the royal family), there is a high-ranking non-binary NPC.
Interestingly, the game does make a good effort at remaining somewhat historically accurate with regards to gender roles, even though the game is historical fiction. For example, the Angle and Saxon-inspired peoples do not have ANY women serving in combat roles, with the exception of a single woman who serves as an army quartermaster for logistical support (things like food, ****, tent stakes). The Dal Riata peoples (inspired by the real-world Celtic tribes of the same name) do have some female warriors, though they are not common, which is consistent with history.
Yeah people were ******** on the **** warriors over on viewtopic.php?t=204-tainted-grail-fall- ... n-released
Shame as I quite enjoyed their previous deckbuilding game Tainted Grail Conquest and recall no faggotry in it, though the story was very barebones tbh.
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Kriptini wrote: July 31st, 2025, 18:14
Hey all, first time to the forum, I found it through the Steam curator group. I have some thoughts about Tainted Grail: Fall of Avalon that I'll share here. I would reply in the post on the Steam forum that Skull already made, but the forums on that group are a huge mess so I figured it'd be more productive if I posted my thoughts here.

Although it is a good game, I think I have enough evidence to confidently say that Tainted Grail: Fall of Avalon is woke. Here's what I noticed (I'll try to avoid spoilers):
  • There are NPCs that explicitly mention being in homosexual relationships. One of them is a male Stonewarden blacksmith in act 2 who mentions his husband a couple times, and there are two women in a marriage together in the Volkner tribe of the Dal Riata in act 3.
  • The aforementioned gay Stonewarden is also part of a quest that allows a male player character to enter into a homosexual romance with another NPC in act 2. (There's also some vague mind control themes associated with the romance.)
  • Many NPCs refer to the player character by the gender-neutral "they" pronoun, even though the character creator explicitly requires you to chosoe between male or female.
  • In the Morrigan's Children organization (essentially a group of assassins that serve the royal family), there is a high-ranking non-binary NPC.
Interestingly, the game does make a good effort at remaining somewhat historically accurate with regards to gender roles, even though the game is historical fiction. For example, the Angle and Saxon-inspired peoples do not have ANY women serving in combat roles, with the exception of a single woman who serves as an army quartermaster for logistical support (things like food, ****, tent stakes). The Dal Riata peoples (inspired by the real-world Celtic tribes of the same name) do have some female warriors, though they are not common, which is consistent with history.
So it seems like it's a game worth pirating if there are mods that can fix the woke elements.

Thanks for letting us know.
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Valter wrote: July 31st, 2025, 18:27
Yeah people were ******** on the **** warriors over on viewtopic.php?t=204-tainted-grail-fall- ... n-released
Shame as I quite enjoyed their previous deckbuilding game Tainted Grail Conquest and recall no faggotry in it, though the story was very barebones tbh.
Oh yeah, that thread reminded me, there is a female knight of the round table as well (the office of "Sir Percival" has been held by multiple women over 600 years in the in-game lore).
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Just started playing Still Wakes the Deep.

The game takes place on an oil rig in the North Sea, in 1975. Everyone is supposed to be Scottish working class and speaks accordingly. So far so good.

Trouble starts when you meet the first character in the game : an obese woman who is some kind of handyman worker (plumber maybe ?).
Soon followed by a number of Blacks and browns, all with thick scottish accents.

Now, maybe I have a false idea of what Scotland was like 50 years ago. Maybe there were plenty of africans/arabs/indians around and fat women were commonly working on oil rigs. Or...

Or this is yet another example of casual historical revisionism.
Some people don't care about it but I do.

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Nico wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:14
Just started playing Still Wakes the Deep.

The game takes place on an oil rig in the North Sea, in 1975. Everyone is supposed to be Scottish working class and speaks accordingly. So far so good.

Trouble starts when you meet the first character in the game : an obese woman who is some kind of handyman worker (plumber maybe ?).
Soon followed by a number of Blacks and browns, all with thick scottish accents.

Now, maybe I have a false idea of what Scotland was like 50 years ago. Maybe there were plenty of africans/arabs/indians around and fat women were commonly working on oil rigs. Or...

Or this is yet another example of casual historical revisionism.
Some people don't care about it but I do.

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I don't know which disgusts me more, the ******* or the fact that the game is obviously in Unreal Engine.
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logincrash wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:26
Nico wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:14
Just started playing Still Wakes the Deep.

The game takes place on an oil rig in the North Sea, in 1975. Everyone is supposed to be Scottish working class and speaks accordingly. So far so good.

Trouble starts when you meet the first character in the game : an obese woman who is some kind of handyman worker (plumber maybe ?).
Soon followed by a number of Blacks and browns, all with thick scottish accents.

Now, maybe I have a false idea of what Scotland was like 50 years ago. Maybe there were plenty of africans/arabs/indians around and fat women were commonly working on oil rigs. Or...

Or this is yet another example of casual historical revisionism.
Some people don't care about it but I do.

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I don't know which disgusts me more, the ******* or the fact that the game is obviously in Unreal Engine.
Easily the *******.
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Nico wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:14
Just started playing Still Wakes the Deep.

The game takes place on an oil rig in the North Sea, in 1975. Everyone is supposed to be Scottish working class and speaks accordingly. So far so good.

Trouble starts when you meet the first character in the game : an obese woman who is some kind of handyman worker (plumber maybe ?).
Soon followed by a number of Blacks and browns, all with thick scottish accents.

Now, maybe I have a false idea of what Scotland was like 50 years ago. Maybe there were plenty of africans/arabs/indians around and fat women were commonly working on oil rigs. Or...

Or this is yet another example of casual historical revisionism.
Some people don't care about it but I do.

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I almost played this once but the torrent didn't work properly :cowboy:
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Nico wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:14
Just started playing Still Wakes the Deep.
It's not even a game - it's a glorified walking sim with simplistic puzzles and a plot that takes the "unexplainable" in Eldritch horror too far.

The plot is so threadbare and simplistic that you can basically predict how it will all go down within the first 10 minutes.

Also, it's made by the ***** Romm *******, the same band of dumbfucks currently beating the dead, rotting corpse of Bloodlines 2 into a pulp.
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Nico wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:14
Now, maybe I have a false idea of what Scotland was like 50 years ago. Maybe there were plenty of africans/arabs/indians around and fat women were commonly working on oil rigs. Or...

Or this is yet another example of casual historical revisionism.
Some people don't care about it but I do.
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They actually released an expansion for the game 2 weeks ago where you play as a black woman :)
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DreamMachine wrote: June 10th, 2025, 19:02
Not sure where to put this, but I have to put it somewhere so...here are some more findings.

- Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (already on the list): This game revolves around a brilliant black female jedi scientist who was smarter than everyone else in her time. Most NPCs you meet are masculine women, and most of them are toxic and/or arrogant. Just like the previous game, this game is pushing HARD for gender neutrality. Him/her and "they" are used interchangeably, that is, women and men are sometimes refered to as "they" in the singular. This game could have been great if it wasn't for all this bullsh*t.

- Crypt Custodian: This game features a lesbian frog named Pebble. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm f*cking sick and tired of all these lesbians in my video games.

- Doom The Dark Ages: I didn't notice much wokeism in this game, if any. One of the main characters is a strong woman, but in the end she is saved by the strong male protagonist. There is one line of text from one of the documents in the game that I will share here: "Under the leadership of Lord Varyn, a master of the court renowned for their diplomatic prowess, the warring clans of the region have been unified to face a common enemy." Is this deliberate or are those writers just getting dumber?

There seems to be a big push towards gender neutrality in video games. Using "they" to refer to someone of unknown gender seems to have been a thing for decades at least, but lately I've noticed that "they" is being used to refer to individuals that are clearly male or female. I've noticed this in several games so far:
- Indiana Jones and the Great Cirle (the male giant/burglar)
- Doom The Dark Ages (text cited above)
- Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (all over the place)
- Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (all over the place)
- Atomfall (male scientist, male protagonist)
- Sniper Elite 5 (male nazi soldiers)

Also, it seems to me that indie games are just as infected with wokeism as AA or AAA games.
W1llus wrote: April 26th, 2025, 00:15
Wait a minute I played control. Where in the game does it say Jesse is a lesbian? Are you referring to the girl with the short hair? I don't even remember a romantic relationship being even implied. The strong black female though is very accurate. She does die in the DLC though.
Edit: I looked into it, and I could not find any hits regarding Jesse being a lesbian. Hell, if that were the case, there would have been something on Reddit since they eat that slop up. I did find ******* discussing if she was ***** (she's not) or if she's some how a ***** allegory (she isn't) which is why you gotta be really careful when you're using an irl women as a model to not give her in-game self a man jaw to leave no room for doubt.
When I was playing the game (a few years ago) I noticed that there was romantic tension between her and Emily Pope. I can't remember the details, but I remember being very disappointed about it. I think it might have been at the very end of one of the DLCs.
I would not be surprised if they make them a couple in the sequel, knowing Remedy.
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Peak has silently removed the pith helmet cosmetic with the latest update. There is one example of someone asking for it to be removed in their Discord channel with 250k members.

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Nico wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:14
Just started playing Still Wakes the Deep.

The game takes place on an oil rig in the North Sea, in 1975. Everyone is supposed to be Scottish working class and speaks accordingly. So far so good.

Trouble starts when you meet the first character in the game : an obese woman who is some kind of handyman worker (plumber maybe ?).
Soon followed by a number of Blacks and browns, all with thick scottish accents.

Now, maybe I have a false idea of what Scotland was like 50 years ago. Maybe there were plenty of africans/arabs/indians around and fat women were commonly working on oil rigs. Or...

Or this is yet another example of casual historical revisionism.
Some people don't care about it but I do.

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That is a shame. I bought the game during the steam sale off a friend's recommendation. I did not expect it would be this pozzed.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: August 5th, 2025, 00:23
They actually released an expansion for the game 2 weeks ago where you play as a black woman :)
I actually really liked the game and could live with the one obese woman and black guys on the oil rig because I don't really know how realistic and historically accurate that is. But apparantly it's just another game filled with divisive Marxist ideology. What a bummer.

I was looking forward to playing the expansion. So thanks for the warning. :( I'm really tired of all these strong and independent black female protagonists...

Also, not sure if this has been said before but the female playable characters in Lords of the Fallen are absolutely ridiculous. They can look thin and scrawny but are able to wield heavy weapons while wearing a suit of armor, just like that. The character designs aren't that different for males and females either. At least you're able to choose a gender, but still...
W1llus wrote: August 11th, 2025, 04:16
I would not be surprised if they make them a couple in the sequel, knowing Remedy.
I used to love their games ever since Max Payne, but they're dead to me now. Their last 2 games flopped so let's see what happens. If their next game is woke, then that might be the nail in the coffin for them.

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Bubsy is back, baby!

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Oyster Sauce wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:32
Bubsy is back, baby!

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That's not an lgbt rainbow tho
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rusty_shackleford wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:35
Oyster Sauce wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:32
Bubsy is back, baby!

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That's not an lgbt rainbow tho
It has the brown people colors
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rusty_shackleford wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:35
Oyster Sauce wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:32
Bubsy is back, baby!

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That's not an lgbt rainbow tho
Or, is it?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:35
Oyster Sauce wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:32
Bubsy is back, baby!

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That's not an lgbt rainbow tho
There is Black, Grey and Brown on that rainbow.
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The more people made fun of your franchise in the 90s, the great chance it has of getting a revival now.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:32
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No. NO!
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Can't wait for Aero the Acro-Bat revival!
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Finarfin wrote: August 20th, 2025, 14:19
rusty_shackleford wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:35
Oyster Sauce wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:32
Bubsy is back, baby!

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That's not an lgbt rainbow tho
There is Black, Grey and Brown on that rainbow.
yea but that's not the pride logo, it's a very specific set of six colors
pride flag has one blue, rainbow has two
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rusty_shackleford wrote: August 23rd, 2025, 20:47
Finarfin wrote: August 20th, 2025, 14:19
rusty_shackleford wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:35


That's not an lgbt rainbow tho
There is Black, Grey and Brown on that rainbow.
yea but that's not the pride logo, it's a very specific set of six colors
pride flag has one blue, rainbow has two
We need a rainbow cooldown. 10 years minimum.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: August 20th, 2025, 13:32
Bubsy is back, baby!

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Oyster Sauce wrote: August 12th, 2025, 14:35
Peak has silently removed the pith helmet cosmetic with the latest update. There is one example of someone asking for it to be removed in their Discord channel with 250k members.

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If somebody bitched at me that a hat was associated with racism, I'd add a KKK hood just for them. You want a racist hat? HAVE A RACIST HAT.
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DreamMachine wrote: July 15th, 2025, 17:18
- The Alters: A good game with many flaws. Even though this game is about a bunch of guys on an uninhabited planet, feminism still found a way to creep in. Probably because the game is written by a woman who looks like a feminist. That also explains why the dialog is so long winded and boring, and most alters are emotional trainwrecks. One of the alters is a complete simp (Jan Botanist) and the biggest decision in the game is basically choosing between "the evil patriarchy" and feminism (by following the simp's advice). When choosing "the patriarchy", the game punishes you by becoming more difficult to progress and then at the end of the game you get screwed in the *** either way. In any case, most women in this game are in leadership positions (captain, boss, head of research, lawyer). The most feminine character in the game is Jan Botanist. Conclusion: WOKE.
Not to mention that about halfway (?) through it is revealed that one instance (at leat) of Jan is bi if not straight up gay. Good thing I only saw someone playing the game and didn't buy it myself.
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Nico wrote: August 4th, 2025, 21:14
Just started playing Still Wakes the Deep.

The game takes place on an oil rig in the North Sea, in 1975. Everyone is supposed to be Scottish working class and speaks accordingly. So far so good.

Trouble starts when you meet the first character in the game : an obese woman who is some kind of handyman worker (plumber maybe ?).
Soon followed by a number of Blacks and browns, all with thick scottish accents.

Now, maybe I have a false idea of what Scotland was like 50 years ago. Maybe there were plenty of africans/arabs/indians around and fat women were commonly working on oil rigs. Or...
The DLC also features the main character as a woman as a wreck diver. Never mind the impossible umbilical maneuvering (that's just a game play v. realism problem) but I'm not sure there were any female bell divers even in the 90s (the dlc take place I think 20 years after the original game events).
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Very helpful curator page. Thanks for doing this.