The Elder Scrolls

[ThulsaDoomer]

Now now children, don't you go be le heckin' racist to ALL Altmer! Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism? Be careful! Don't be stupid like the people telling me I'm stupid for saying fantasy racism can't go too far now!

I couldn't find the Thalmor video he mentioned, maybe the title wasn't done up properly, but I can't be bothered to peruse a gay ******* channel. I did, however, spot a video about him making comparisons between Ulfric and Trump, which cements him as a brainwashed gay ******.

[Revyscutlass]

Now now children, don't you go be le heckin' racist to ALL Altmer! Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism? Be careful! Don't be stupid like the people telling me I'm stupid for saying fantasy racism can't go too far now!

I couldn't find the Thalmor video he mentioned, maybe the title wasn't done up properly, but I can't be bothered to peruse a gay ******* channel. I did, however, spot a video about him making comparisons between Ulfric and Trump, which cements him as a brainwashed gay ******.

Doesn't surprise me.
he made a video on ESO's Ithelia that blew up and lo-and-behold he revealed himself to be a chokepoint for "too harsh fantasy" basically lol

[Tangerine]

making comparisons between Ulfric and Trump

Trump's rhetorical kill shots are real life thu'ums that destroy political careers on impact.

[Finarfin]

Now now children, don't you go be le heckin' racist to ALL Altmer! Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism? Be careful! Don't be stupid like the people telling me I'm stupid for saying fantasy racism can't go too far now!

I couldn't find the Thalmor video he mentioned, maybe the title wasn't done up properly, but I can't be bothered to peruse a gay ******* channel. I did, however, spot a video about him making comparisons between Ulfric and Trump, which cements him as a brainwashed gay ******.

Doesn't surprise me.
he made a video on ESO's Ithelia that blew up and lo-and-behold he revealed himself to be a chokepoint for "too harsh fantasy" basically lol

what's the deal with Ithelia?

[Revyscutlass]

I couldn't find the Thalmor video he mentioned, maybe the title wasn't done up properly, but I can't be bothered to peruse a gay ******* channel. I did, however, spot a video about him making comparisons between Ulfric and Trump, which cements him as a brainwashed gay ******.

Doesn't surprise me.
he made a video on ESO's Ithelia that blew up and lo-and-behold he revealed himself to be a chokepoint for "too harsh fantasy" basically lol

what's the deal with Ithelia?

The lore nerd answer: She is a brand new Daedric Prince which screws with existing lore including but not limited to the numerology of the Daedric Princes
the default answer: She's an ESO character

[ThulsaDoomer]

he made a video on ESO's Ithelia that blew up and lo-and-behold he revealed himself to be a chokepoint for "too harsh fantasy" basically lol

I'm not quite in the mood to rant but I will say that I am very tired of TES psueds who cannot distinguish that much of Morrowind's and the eventual games lore stems from real historical context and nothing to do with modern dilemmas, although they definitely do play a larger factor in Oblivion and Skyrim. (Thanks Emil, you italian ******)

The Empire as depicted in Morrowind is, much like its historical equivalent, entirely biased in its own citizens rights and privileges. Caius famously makes a few remarks on the inferiority of Orcs and Beastmen, and his admiration of the Dunmer lies only because he respects their similar convicted stance on nativist sentiments over the foreigner. The Empire conquered the Nords and immediately put them into military service to conquer other provinces. They never cared about integrating these cultures, only how to use them for the betterment of the Empire. You could be very mistaken of this in Oblivion and Skyrim, which paints the Empire as more of a globohomo Empire of minority rights and freedoms.

Alright, I ranted a little, but I'll leave it there.

[buttfucker 3000]

making comparisons between Ulfric and Trump

Trump's rhetorical kill shots are real life thu'ums that destroy political careers on impact.

Not wrong. Poor Jeb, never stood a chance.

[Vergil]

"People keep talking about not being able to own a home in Cyrodiil anymore, but I just did a quick scrying of the major cities and there's a cozy little starter home in Bravil for only 4,000 Septims."

[wndrbr]

You just gotta pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

[Hurtyy]

Now now children, don't you go be le heckin' racist to ALL Altmer! Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism? Be careful! Don't be stupid like the people telling me I'm stupid for saying fantasy racism can't go too far now!

I couldn't find the Thalmor video he mentioned, maybe the title wasn't done up properly, but I can't be bothered to peruse a gay ******* channel. I did, however, spot a video about him making comparisons between Ulfric and Trump, which cements him as a brainwashed gay ******.

Libtards are right that Trump is Ulfric, that is why you should always support the Stormcloacks against the Globohomo Empire wanting to bring cultural diversity to Skyrim

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Mindboggling that this game still has no release date. Half of TES6's audience will not have even been alive when Skyrim came out. Then again, I wonder if The Elder Scrolls will hold brand name recognition like it did way back when. It might be a Final Fantasy situation where only aging 30 and 40+ year old grognards remember it, and all the youths will stick to playing roblox and fortnite on their mom's phone.

[TKVNC]

Mindboggling that this game still has no release date. Half of TES6's audience will not have even been alive when Skyrim came out. Then again, I wonder if The Elder Scrolls will hold brand name recognition like it did way back when. It might be a Final Fantasy situation where only aging 30 and 40+ year old grognards remember it, and all the youths will stick to playing roblox and fortnite on their mom's phone.

Based on Shartfield it will be slop anyway.

[Rienen]

Actual game content aside, if cities and their sub-locations are all still fishbowled off with loading screens (and I have no reason to believe they WON'T be), it will be an easy "pass" for me.

[ArcaneLurker]

Now now children, don't you go be le heckin' racist to ALL Altmer! Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism? Be careful! Don't be stupid like the people telling me I'm stupid for saying fantasy racism can't go too far now!

It's more to do with what types of people are attracted to or okay with. People that have strong kneejerk to racism, are bound to have similar responses towards any widely accepted social taboo in their ingroup. They are highly sensory conformists by nature. This over the top emotional response applies to fiction as well as reality. Normally they tell themselves "it's not real," however, now, they can tell themselves it's bad because it must lead to gamers chudmaxing, as everyone has to be a blank slate just like them.

[wndrbr]

https://www.thegamer.com/john-dombrow-b ... -designer/

John Dombrow, co-lead writer on Mass Effect: Andromeda, a senior narrative designer for Anthem, and a senior narrative designer on Dragon Age: The Veilguard, has joined Bethesda as a senior quest designer.

[Vergil]

TESVI is slowly becoming a Half Life 3 situation where Bethesda only has everything to lose by finally making it.

[rusty_shackleford]

TESVI is slowly becoming a Half Life 3 situation where Bethesda only has everything to lose by finally making it.

Most of what normgroids remember about skyrim from 10+ years ago is never what it was actually like, the autistic fans play it with 300+ mods so TESVI will never be close to what they want, etc.,
There's no point of time where bethesda could have made a game that would live up to the expectation

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I do not think that "expectations are too high". On the contrary, I believe that the bar is low. The game does not need to be super cutting edge or reinvent the wheel or be bloated with stuff and be a "do everything" game like GTA or Star Citizen. It just needs to be fun. It just has to be as good as Oblivion and/or Skyrim, which were made 20/15 years ago. Bethseda has the blueprint to success and should hypothetically have more resources and talent at their disposal. They could just copypaste the gameplay loop and systems of their prior two games, make minor changes to them, and really most of the effort would go into modelling/texturing/rigging/animating/lighting a new world and putting some fun quests into it. Do something exotic like medieval Thailand/Cambodia Elesweyr or Kirkbride's vision of Cryodill with the dinosaurs bathing in the brown river and the bridge city and the talking hedge mazes, etc. Grab a composer who can make a memorable soundtrack. And then you're done.

[Stack of Turtles]

I do not think that "expectations are too high". [...] It just has to be as good as Oblivion and/or Skyrim, which were made 20/15 years ago.

Yeah that means expectations are too high


Also Kirkbride is a hack and everything he wrote sucks, hth

[rusty_shackleford]

skyrim isn't as good as skyrim was in most people's heads, I've seen it repeatedly where older normgroids go back and play it and realize it sucks

ironically I think fallout 4 ended up aging far better

[Val the Moofia Boss]

It's the intro experience that new players remember, of being a fresh faced level 1 character stepping out into this large unknown world and wandering around discovering these different towns or whacky stuff like wizards living inside mushroom towers or the atmosphere of these races complaining about the occupation or these different guilds doing their own things, and so on. I think that's the part that people love about these games and why few people finish their playthroughs and complete the main story let alone all of the major storylines, but keep starting new playthroughs. The fun is frontloaded which means people actually play it for at least quite a bit rather than being boring right off the bat. Now obviously you can only start so many playthroughs before you get used to it and that earlygame magic wears off. That's why new games with new coats of paint are necessary.

[TKVNC]

It's the intro experience that new players remember, of being a fresh faced level 1 character stepping out into this large unknown world and wandering around discovering these different towns or whacky stuff like wizards living inside mushroom towers or the atmosphere of these races complaining about the occupation or these different guilds doing their own things, and so on. I think that's the part that people love about these games and why few people finish their playthroughs and complete the main story let alone all of the major storylines, but keep starting new playthroughs. The fun is frontloaded which means people actually play it for at least quite a bit rather than being boring right off the bat. Now obviously you can only start so many playthroughs before you get used to it and that earlygame magic wears off. That's why new games with new coats of paint are necessary.

Exploration is definitely important in TES. This is why Morrowind does so well, there is fast travel in specific places, which encourages you to explore towns, then as there is no map based fast travel, you explore the world.

[Vergil]

[Vergil]

ironically I think fallout 4 ended up aging far better

I really don't think this is the case. Fallout 4 doesn't have even a fraction of the sheer cultural impact that Skyrim had and even continues to have.
The modding scene is a really good example of this I think. Sure Skyrim is only really good with mods but for a game to have a thriving modding scene there needs to be something there that people are passionate enough to fix in the first place. BG3 wouldn't have so many high effort mods to remove the woke stuff if the base game was awful to play.
Fallout New Vegas and Skyrim get way more big impressive mods made than Fallout 4 does even to this day. It has a moderately sized modding community sure but when you look at the things New Vegas or Skyrim modders do compared to Fallout 4 it's kind of crazy. Someone got genuine car physics to work in New Vegas whilst Fallout 4 just get's it's one millionth tacticool tarkov gun pack mod. Fallout London is the only big total conversion of note the game has. New Vegas and Skyrim have multiple.

[rusty_shackleford]

ironically I think fallout 4 ended up aging far better

I really don't think this is the case. Fallout 4 doesn't have even a fraction of the sheer cultural impact that Skyrim had and even continues to have.
The modding scene is a really good example of this I think. Sure Skyrim is only really good with mods but for a game to have a thriving modding scene there needs to be something there that people are passionate enough to fix in the first place. BG3 wouldn't have so many high effort mods to remove the woke stuff if the base game was awful to play.
Fallout New Vegas and Skyrim get way more big impressive mods made than Fallout 4 does even to this day. It has a moderately sized modding community sure but when you look at the things New Vegas or Skyrim modders do compared to Fallout 4 it's kind of crazy. Someone got genuine car physics to work in New Vegas whilst Fallout 4 just get's it's one millionth tacticool tarkov gun pack mod. Fallout London is the only big total conversion of note the game has. New Vegas and Skyrim have multiple.

yeah but I'm judging them as the game they were sold as

[CornCake]

Imperials aren't white.

[rusty_shackleford]

Imperials aren't white.

a large part of the imperials are colovians, and colovians are basically just nords
"imperial" as a separate race is probably silly

meh, whatever, lore has been ruined since morrowind

[DrSneed]

Imperials aren't white.

Silence Aldm*ri

[CornCake]

Imperials aren't white.

Silence Aldm*ri

Breton actually, which makes me more arrogant than you.

[DecadeRiptide]

The Elder Woke VI