I would, but homosexuals would be hunted for heresy and degeneracy so... ideally, no ****** mages because no ******* period.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:27eh, I'll allow it for homosexuals tooCipher wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 01:39This absolutely the most BASED and correct take.
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magic is already heretical and degenerateCipher wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:48I would, but homosexuals would be hunted for heresy and degeneracy so... ideally, no ****** mages because no ******* period.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:27eh, I'll allow it for homosexuals tooCipher wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 01:39
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Magic on dudes is acceptable if he's an eldritch knight donned on mithral armor.
But I still prefer warrior clerics leading the armies.

But I still prefer warrior clerics leading the armies.
Only if you're protestant. Magic can be fine, depending on the context. If it's a natural part of the fictional world or a learned discipline, it's fine, but if it's explicitly a result of demonic influence then it's not.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:51magic is already heretical and degenerateCipher wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:48I would, but homosexuals would be hunted for heresy and degeneracy so... ideally, no ****** mages because no ******* period.![]()
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magic is for women, just like poison and those devices that help you open bottlesKnightoftheWind wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:16Only if you're protestant. Magic can be fine, depending on the context. If it's a natural part of the fictional world or a learned discipline, it's fine, but if it's explicitly a result of demonic influence then it's not.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:51magic is already heretical and degenerateCipher wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:48
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I don't feel very feminine when I'm roasting goblins with dual lightning blasts in Skyrim.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:17magic is for women, just like poison and those devices that help you open bottlesKnightoftheWind wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:16Only if you're protestant. Magic can be fine, depending on the context. If it's a natural part of the fictional world or a learned discipline, it's fine, but if it's explicitly a result of demonic influence then it's not.
In some fantasy settings the "magic" is a learned science that can be controlled by mortals without any supernatural interference, so in these particular settings, "arcane magic" is kind of like real-life physics or chemistry, so hardly something that only women should have access to.
Now, "witchcraft" gained through antinatural occult ****, now THAT I see as something only bitter and hateful women may be willing to exploit.
Now, "witchcraft" gained through antinatural occult ****, now THAT I see as something only bitter and hateful women may be willing to exploit.
Heresy.UltraFan123 wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:14Magic on dudes is acceptable if he's an eldritch knight donned on mithral armor.
Those would be miracles not witchcraft. But yes, holy knights, paladins, templars, clerics. All awesome.
You are basically describing the difference between Magia and Goetia. If you would like to read an incredibly long essay Tom Shippey (Tolkien scholar) wrote on how Lewis and Tolkien differentiated these, I have it here:UltraFan123 wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:23In some fantasy settings the "magic" is a learned science that can be controlled by mortals without any supernatural interference, so in these particular settings, "arcane magic" is kind of like real-life physics or chemistry, so hardly something that only women should have access to.
Now, "witchcraft" gained through antinatural occult ****, now THAT I see as something only bitter and hateful women may be willing to exploit.
https://f.rpghq.org/nFW1PGbrnPb9.doc?n= ... klings.doc
Except that restricting magic to only woman is why so many powerful magic casters ended on Mousillon becoming powerful vampires and necromancers. And why after thousands of cavalry charge, that region still a lawless area of Bretonnia ruled by vampire and necromancers.maidenhaver wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:42The knights chantries(?) are cool, and they have pegasi and the Green Knight. I've watched some games, and I think WaterMage hates them because they're good.
If the Empire of Sigmar had a similar stupid law, it would lose 3/4 of the College patriarchs. Would lose Balthasar Gelt, a dude that made the empire Cannons and armor much more powerful that can transmute entire armiees. Needless to say, if the empire had such stupid law, that law wouldn't last, because the new Emperor(photo bellow) would fix it.
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Yep. My guess. Will be a Dark Heresy game but another one with the same problem of RT.Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: β May 20th, 2025, 21:14Owlcat has said there are no plans for Warhammer Fantasy at this time. However they said there are open for more W40k TTRPGβs adaptations. Its heavily rumoured that there making a Dark Hersey game and possibly an entire game or DLC for Rogue Trader relating to the Night Lords Adeptus Astartes.
Nope. They should be caged, restrained, under silver chains to lock them producing half elf children with high magical potential to the empire or for Merhcant Princes in Tilea. In a a quasy voluntary way where motherhood can prevent their execution by their crimes and reduce their sentence to a "house arrest" under strict vigillance.
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Magic isn't heretical in WFB, and there aren't any protestants.KnightoftheWind wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:16Only if you're protestant. Magic can be fine, depending on the context. If it's a natural part of the fictional world or a learned discipline, it's fine, but if it's explicitly a result of demonic influence then it's not.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:51magic is already heretical and degenerateCipher wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:48
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magic is, as the libtards would say, woman-coded
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Depends on the magic. I wouldn't say that a Celestial Wizard throwing a freaking meteor against orcs and zaping hellcannons out of existence is "woman-coded", nor that Balthasar Gelt working with engineers to make cannons deadlier, more accurate and powerful.
In D&D and Warhammer, the most powerful casters and hybrid, mage-warriors are all man.
Most deities that can do stuff like conjuring tsunamis, throwing lightning storms, etc were male. If a human mage is ghey by throwing lightning bolts, then Perun, Zeus, Thor, and TlΓ‘loc are all ghey.
In the case of Bretonnia, humans already have repeater firearms. In a few years, a single Tilean mercenary from Braganza's Besiegers will be able to, with a single gatling gun, devastate an entire cavalry regiment. Chivalry, horse charges, lances, swords, everything is weak compared to the power of magic and engineering. Bretonnia only didn't become an undead magocracy led by Mousillon warlocks, necromancers, and vampires because they have an elf deity's bathwater, which is a form of magic.
In the case of Bretonnia, humans already have repeater firearms. In a few years, a single Tilean mercenary from Braganza's Besiegers will be able to, with a single gatling gun, devastate an entire cavalry regiment. Chivalry, horse charges, lances, swords, everything is weak compared to the power of magic and engineering. Bretonnia only didn't become an undead magocracy led by Mousillon warlocks, necromancers, and vampires because they have an elf deity's bathwater, which is a form of magic.
women with magic would just lightning their own foot then go to internet to whine
Women have never done magic well even once, you're just sour grapes because you can't be a wizard either.
Are you saying Gandalf the White (Wizard) is gay?
This is approaching Russia-Ukraine war levels of retardation.WaterMage wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 09:54Except that restricting magic to only woman is why so many powerful magic casters ended on Mousillon becoming powerful vampires and necromancers. And why after thousands of cavalry charge, that region still a lawless area of Bretonnia ruled by vampire and necromancers.maidenhaver wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 02:42The knights chantries(?) are cool, and they have pegasi and the Green Knight. I've watched some games, and I think WaterMage hates them because they're good.
If the Empire of Sigmar had a similar stupid law, it would lose 3/4 of the College patriarchs. Would lose Balthasar Gelt, a dude that made the empire Cannons and armor much more powerful that can transmute entire armiees. Needless to say, if the empire had such stupid law, that law wouldn't last, because the new Emperor(photo bellow) would fix it.That dude, he is a monster he is so physically strong that is more powerful than most Orcs and so magical powerful that is more powerful than most Elves. In the empire, some colleges of magic like the Jade College, all about life and healing have a lot of woman. Other colleges mainly the Golden Order, about alchemy, engineering and etc have more man.βΊ Show Spoiler
Yep. My guess. Will be a Dark Heresy game but another one with the same problem of RT.Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: β May 20th, 2025, 21:14Owlcat has said there are no plans for Warhammer Fantasy at this time. However they said there are open for more W40k TTRPGβs adaptations. Its heavily rumoured that there making a Dark Hersey game and possibly an entire game or DLC for Rogue Trader relating to the Night Lords Adeptus Astartes.
Nope. They should be caged, restrained, under silver chains to lock them producing half elf children with high magical potential to the empire or for Merhcant Princes in Tilea. In a a quasy voluntary way where motherhood can prevent their execution by their crimes and reduce their sentence to a "house arrest" under strict vigillance.
Grok please explain the difference between a deity and a human being to meWaterMage wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 13:37Most deities that can do stuff like conjuring tsunamis, throwing lightning storms, etc were male. If a human mage is ghey by throwing lightning bolts, then Perun, Zeus, Thor, and TlΓ‘loc are all ghey.
In the case of Bretonnia, humans already have repeater firearms. In a few years, a single Tilean mercenary from Braganza's Besiegers will be able to, with a single gatling gun, devastate an entire cavalry regiment. Chivalry, horse charges, lances, swords, everything is weak compared to the power of magic and engineering. Bretonnia only didn't become an undead magocracy led by Mousillon warlocks, necromancers, and vampires because they have an elf deity's bathwater, which is a form of magic.
Gandalf wasn't human.
I was right in everything that I said in that thread. Except when I predicted 120 sq km max advance and RU advanced 130.Kalarion wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 14:02This is approaching Russia-Ukraine war levels of retardation.
He is not human.
Either way, I have a thread to discuss Warhammer - The Old World ( viewtopic.php?p=241275-warhammer-the-ol ... ad#p241275 ), if anyone wanna discuss why Bretonnia sucks, lets go there. This is a OwlCat thread and OwlCat is not adapting Warhammer Fantasy.
That said, trying to bring the discussion back to 40k.
Would you guys who say that mages are ghey say this in front of Magnus the Red or Malcador?
BTW, anyone here who worships the big E, is worshiping the most powerful human Psyker.
Deal with it. Unless you are a Heretic, you are worshiping a male psyker.
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Is there even one equivalent of a super old wizened wizard character like Gandalf or Dumbledore or Elminster or Merlin that isn't a man and isn't an evil witch?
So you're a Viking now? I thought you hated them.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:17magic is for women, just like poison and those devices that help you open bottlesKnightoftheWind wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:16Only if you're protestant. Magic can be fine, depending on the context. If it's a natural part of the fictional world or a learned discipline, it's fine, but if it's explicitly a result of demonic influence then it's not.
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The idea of vikings being "no magic for men bros" is super funny when you stop to realize that their divine chieftain Odin/Wotan is literally the God of Magic.
No, only evil witches that I can think of.Oyster Sauce wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 16:36Is there even one equivalent of a super old wizened wizard character like Gandalf or Dumbledore or Elminster or Merlin that isn't a man and isn't an evil witch?
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Did you really miss when he proudly proclaimed he was 1/128th Cherokee viking?Stack of Turtles wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 17:06So you're a Viking now? I thought you hated them.rusty_shackleford wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:17magic is for women, just like poison and those devices that help you open bottlesKnightoftheWind wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 05:16
Only if you're protestant. Magic can be fine, depending on the context. If it's a natural part of the fictional world or a learned discipline, it's fine, but if it's explicitly a result of demonic influence then it's not.
Anyway, magic is masculine because women don't have the strength of will to do it.
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That's why they usually consort with the devil to gain it.Stack of Turtles wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 17:53Anyway, magic is masculine because women don't have the strength of will to do it.
Freija was a Magic deity too and she got magic in a much less costly and risky way.UltraFan123 wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 17:10The idea of vikings being "no magic for men bros" is super funny when you stop to realize that their divine chieftain Odin/Wotan is literally the God of Magic.
Truly, the psy op against men has worked all too well if people believe magic and might has any right belonging to women. Yes, many ancient cultures commonly had fertility/womanly matron deities at their heads. Guess what happened to them? They were conquered by cultures that worshipped a fatherly God heading their pantheon. Not only is matriarchy a doomed political system, it is doomed in a religious context. The vikings went as far as they did precisely because they recognised the guiding hand of a father and not the resentful emotional gaze of the mother.UltraFan123 wrote: β May 21st, 2025, 17:10The idea of vikings being "no magic for men bros" is super funny when you stop to realize that their divine chieftain Odin/Wotan is literally the God of Magic.
That's why women mages in classic literature tended to inherit their powers from demonic bargains, rituals, or deals with ancient mother deities that scorned the rise of man.

