Stealthy Mod Organizer 2 Plugin 0.4 — Baldur's Gate 3

[Auld_SnawBeard]

So, this is new..

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I suppose there is a lot of stuff that has gotten updated since the hotfix. Does Native Mod Loader work for you guys?
I think I've set it up right..

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This is the error report in MO:

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I guess I just have to wait for more updates, but I thought I should post it here in case it was related to the plugin somehow

Edit: I still get the error after disabling all other mods except the two native. Wonder if I've set up something wrong after all
Edit 2: I tried running BG3 with the Stealthy 0.1 setup that worked yesterday. It now throws the same error. I'm going to verify my files and do a reboot just in case it's the ol' gremlin having a laugh
Edit 3: After verify and restart BG3 still won't run with Native Mod Loader. As far as I can gather that leaves either me having corrupted system files, or that hotfix was a little unkind towards our favourite camera mod (enabler).

[Crazed Weevil]

So, this is new..

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I suppose there is a lot of stuff that has gotten updated since the hotfix. Does Native Mod Loader work for you guys?
I think I've set it up right..

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This is the error report in MO:

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I guess I just have to wait for more updates, but I thought I should post it here in case it was related to the plugin somehow

Edit: I still get the error after disabling all other mods except the two native. Wonder if I've set up something wrong after all
Edit 2: I tried running BG3 with the Stealthy 0.1 setup that worked yesterday. It now throws the same error. I'm going to verify my files and do a reboot just in case it's the ol' gremlin having a laugh
Edit 3: After verify and restart BG3 still won't run with Native Mod Loader. As far as I can gather that leaves either me having corrupted system files, or that hotfix was a little unkind towards our favourite camera mod (enabler).

Native Mod Loader works for me. Can you confirm that both 'bink2w64.dll' & 'bink2w64_original.dll' are appearing the 'Data' section in the right pane?

A couple of other things to check:

• Try running Native Mod Loader by itself without MO2, see if it as least works.
• I remember you had a very long installation directory for your MO2 installation. In the past I had trouble with going over Windows' limit on path names and it stopped some mods from loading because it couldn't copy them to the right place. Try changing the mod folder name to just 'Native Mod Loader' or even smaller and see if that works.

[Auld_SnawBeard]

The files seem to appear:

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I'll try your other tips

Edit: BG3 starts and the mods work when I install them manually and run the game from steam.
I'm wondering if it may be Vortex interfering somehow. I noticed some vortex files were generated in the game's bin folder when I started the game up from MO2 just now. I'm going to uninstall vortex and see if that makes a difference.

Edit 2: I reinstalled Vortex. Had it delete it's download folder (which I was using as a mod backup archive). Purged mods. Sat Vortex to not handle something something I can no longer remember. Uninstalled Vortex again. Now Native Mod Loader works through MO2 again. Funny that an uninstalled app could do all that. I was using Vortex to download mods from a collection without installing and enabling them (at least that's what I told it to in the settings). It seemed to install them automatically regardless. Anyway the method worked for downloading and organize a large number of pre-vetted mods for easier manual import into MO2 (except for the tiny hiccup). MO2 will be perfect for checking mod-compatibility between a large number of collection-mods with our ModHQ-mods.

Thanks for the help Weevil, once again you help me back to my feet. I feel like a right toddler :weeb:

[Crazed Weevil]

The files seem to appear:

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I'll try your other tips

Edit: BG3 starts and the mods work when I install them manually and run the game from steam.
I'm wondering if it may be Vortex interfering somehow. I noticed some vortex files were generated in the game's bin folder when I started the game up from MO2 just now. I'm going to uninstall vortex and see if that makes a difference.

Edit 2: I reinstalled Vortex. Had it delete it's download folder (which I was using as a mod backup archive). Purged mods. Sat Vortex to not handle something something I can no longer remember. Uninstalled Vortex again. Now Native Mod Loader works through MO2 again. Funny that an uninstalled app could do all that. I was using Vortex to download mods from a collection without installing and enabling them (at least that's what I told it to in the settings). It seemed to install them automatically regardless. Anyway the method worked for downloading and organize a large number of pre-vetted mods for easier manual import into MO2 (except for the tiny hiccup). MO2 will be perfect for checking mod-compatibility between a large number of collection-mods with our ModHQ-mods.

Thanks for the help Weevil, once again you help me back to my feet. I feel like a right toddler :weeb:

Ah, Vortex. If there is one thing I hate more than in game Mod Managers, it's Vortex. That ***** does not play nice with others, especially MO2. It likes to steal download links and often overrides the Virtual File System that MO2 uses. Honestly if you really need Collections, your better off find a Wabbajack version of it if avaliable.

[Auld_SnawBeard]

I find that collections are a tidy way of finding mods that I want while the curator have already gone through the process of vetting his combination for incompatibilities. It easily beats digging through the nexus for stuff I didn't know I wanted.

What I do is I rip out the parts I want from a single collection, then test it towards our HQ-mods. If they're not compatile I just throw them out of course, but it's much easier this way. For example I ditch all race/class/overhaul mods. UI-mods I don't need and which aren't dependencies. I sit left with a good vanilla experience which is likely to work out of the box before the test up against HQ. We'll see how it works once the collections are updated for patch 8.

If you know of a Wabbajack solution that can use the collection-function for BG3 on Nexus I'd love to try it.

[Auld_SnawBeard]

@loregamer I'm trying to install Realms Restored. MO2 doesn't make the meta.lsx for RealmsRestored_Aesthetics-v2.0 nor RealmsRestored_NameChanges-v2.0. MO2 makes the file for the other RR mods and all the NA mods.
MO2 fails to start the game.
I tried reinstalling the mods to see if it would generate the files on a second try. No such luck

[loregamer]

@loregamer I'm trying to install Realms Restored. MO2 doesn't make the meta.lsx for RealmsRestored_Aesthetics-v2.0 nor RealmsRestored_NameChanges-v2.0. MO2 makes the file for the other RR mods and all the NA mods.
MO2 fails to start the game.
I tried reinstalling the mods to see if it would generate the files on a second try. No such luck

[loregamer]

@Auld_SnawBeard Do you get an error in your logs? The meta.lsx files are creating for me

[loregamer]

Wait, I see why a lot of these issues are happening. Will update

[loregamer]

v0.3.1

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Bumped the Version of GustavX to the latest hotfix, so you won't run into this error when connecting to multiplayer anymore:

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► For devfags

Devfags, you can update these constants in the ModSetttingsHelper.py file if I'm ever lazy and not updating:

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Will now look at the SE_CONFIG issue and remove the plugin's jank Root Builder emulated logic

[Auld_SnawBeard]

I installed Stealthy 0.3.1 over 0.3.0, then removed any files that came with the old one but not the new. Restarted MO2, Reinstalled the quarrelsome mods. The issue persists.

Log:



Maybe I need to reinstall MO2 clean..

Edit: Meta.lsx was not generated btw
Edit2: 0.3.1 containes fewer files than 0.3.0, but I'm assuming that's intentional.

[loregamer]

Any chance you could send me your mods and profiles folder?

[Auld_SnawBeard]

I did a clean MO2 Stealthy 0.3.1 install and now Aesthetics works there.

I assume there were some kind of scrap-code left over from 0.3.0 when I just installed over it


Edit: I reinstalled again and on this clean install RealmsRestored Aesthetic once again didn't work. So I installed a fourth time, and now it works again. The only difference I can discern is that I made the file-paths and folder-names much shorter on the successful ones. I tend to have long names when I need to keep things tidy amongst a lot of similar files and structures across two drives, but I used a very short one for my first successful test. I again used a short one for my fourth install to see if that could in fact be the reason, because Weevil mentioned that MO2 was sensitive to long file-paths. Something sure is finicky, but it least is seems to work now.

[loregamer]

v0.4
Removed Script Extender config handling (It's not worth it)

[Auld_SnawBeard]

Are any of you in contact with the author of MO2? We really need a way to make an importable loadlist..

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Edit: Btw, it appears lengthy file-names of the zip-files can also disable MO2's ability to make their respective .lsx files.
Edit 2: It was this file that wouldn't work this time btw: https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/ ... e_id=84549
I renamed it Neatened Brows for it to work, and then it did.
Edit 3: Just in case it should matter somehow, my current folder structure where I had to shorten the file-name..
C:\BG3 MO2 040\.exe
E:\BG3 MO2 040\mods etc

Unfortunately I had deleted the folders and files of the MO2 install that wouldn't generate the .lsx for the Realms Restored files. But to the best of my memory they went like this:
C:\BG3 Mod Organizer Installations\BG3 MO2 Stealthy v0_3 Rootbuilder v5_05\.exe
E:\Baldur's Gate 3\BG3 MO2 Stealthy v0_3 Rootbuilder v5_05 mod install\0_3 Mod etc

I forgot to mention that even tho it's working now, I'm still getting this:

Another .lsx

[daobacai]

Version 0.4 still exhibits the following errors when renaming MODs with special characters, while Versions 0.2 and 0.1 remain unaffected:
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] failed to update mod list: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\U0001fa71' in position 61: ordinal not in range(128)
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E]
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] At:
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\baldursgate3\bg3_log.py(24): info
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\game_baldursgate3.py(247): onModStateChanged
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E]
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] failed to update mod list: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 61-62: ordinal not in range(128)
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E]
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] At:
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\baldursgate3\bg3_log.py(24): info
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\game_baldursgate3.py(247): onModStateChanged
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E]

[loregamer]

Are any of you in contact with the author of MO2? We really need a way to make an importable loadlist..

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Edit: Btw, it appears lengthy file-names of the zip-files can also disable MO2's ability to make their respective .lsx files.
Edit 2: It was this file that wouldn't work this time btw: https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/ ... e_id=84549
I renamed it Neatened Brows for it to work, and then it did.
Edit 3: Just in case it should matter somehow, my current folder structure where I had to shorten the file-name..
C:\BG3 MO2 040\.exe
E:\BG3 MO2 040\mods etc

Unfortunately I had deleted the folders and files of the MO2 install that wouldn't generate the .lsx for the Realms Restored files. But to the best of my memory they went like this:
C:\BG3 Mod Organizer Installations\BG3 MO2 Stealthy v0_3 Rootbuilder v5_05\.exe
E:\Baldur's Gate 3\BG3 MO2 Stealthy v0_3 Rootbuilder v5_05 mod install\0_3 Mod etc

I forgot to mention that even tho it's working now, I'm still getting this:

Another .lsx

I would fork it but unfortunately the tool is only source available, not open source I can't redistribute it with changes made

[loregamer]

Version 0.4 still exhibits the following errors when renaming MODs with special characters, while Versions 0.2 and 0.1 remain unaffected:
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] failed to update mod list: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\U0001fa71' in position 61: ordinal not in range(128)
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E]
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] At:
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\baldursgate3\bg3_log.py(24): info
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\game_baldursgate3.py(247): onModStateChanged
[2025-05-03 18:32:39.556 E]
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] failed to update mod list: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 61-62: ordinal not in range(128)
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E]
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] At:
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\baldursgate3\bg3_log.py(24): info
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E] X:\Steam/steamapps/common/Baldurs Gate 3/Mod.Organizer-2.5.2/plugins\basic_games\games\game_baldursgate3.py(247): onModStateChanged
[2025-05-03 18:33:00.446 E]

Will fix mod renaming sometime this weekend

[Auld_SnawBeard]

I've come to appreciate you guy's disdain for Vortex.

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On an unrelated note say, if I were to uninstall bg3 (for exaple to cure it of the cancer that is Vortex) and upon reinstall found that MO2 Stealth will only apply a few of the mods it used to, would there be an easy fix or do I need to reinstall MO2?
(It deploys Native mods and a reshade. If there were others I couldn't see them)

Nvm this, it worked out after a restart

[loregamer]

Working well in multiplayer

Having armors and weapons installed that others don't crashes for everyone, though

[loregamer]

An idea I am too lazy to follow up on is making this a game_bg3.dll plugin instead of basic_game plugin

This would let us do more stuff like load order and multi-path VFS. And I know it's possible since there's this other plugin that is a DLL
Bethesda Plugin Manager

I just am feeling exceptionally lazy right now

[loregamer]

This is gonna be really good
https://github.com/ModOrganizer2/modorganizer/pull/2241

Note that the primary changes for this, other than the game plugin, involve adding a new game plugin function that allows defining custom VFS mappings in the mod directories.

This is a map of directory names to an array of locations that should be mapped by the VFS.

For example, Oblivion Remastered maps "Data" to the internal Data directory, "Paks" to the internal Paks~mods directory, "Movies" to Movies, an "OBSE" files to the OBSE directory.

This does default to routing the root mod directory to the game data directory, as it functioned previously, and will add any 'secondary data directories' (see Starfield) to this default map.

Due to this, there are additional changes to how 'Overwrite' is managed. These directories will automatically be created in Overwrite and the logic has been updated to prevent deleting or removing these within MO2. (Files will be copied and then cleared from these directories if you send data to a new mod etc.)

[Crazed Weevil]

So far so good. Version 0.4 is working nicely and I now have a good sized mod list working correctly without much hassle other than load order. For anyone who needs it, this the rough load order I made that works well in the form of MO2 separators:

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EARLY LOADERS (stuff that needs to be there before everything else)

• Script Extender
• Native Mods
• Shared Libraries (these need to be in the following order:
  • Community Library
  • Mod Configuration Menu
  • Improved UI
  • 5e Spells
  • Various VFX Libraries
  • Trip's Shader Pack
• Script Extender Mods (these are the single task mods like Auto Send Camp stuff)

NEW ITEMS (new weapons, armours, clothes, etc)

• New Clothes & Armours
• New Weapons
• Bags & Containers
• New Dyes
• Tutorial Chest & Framework Patches

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS (bug fixes and simple overrides)

• Spell Overhauls (mods that change spells function in some way like 'True Darkness', etc)
• Spell Visual Improvements
• Spell & Ability Fixes (bug fixes to Shadow Blade and the like)
• Clothing Fixes & Improvements ('Dignify' mods, and any other clothing changes)
• Camp Improvements (I've only tested 'Move Minthara' mod, but all the other one similar to that should go here as well)

EXPANDED CONTENT (new classes, feats, etc)

• New Feats
• New Classes (I created a separator for each class, not just one for them all, just to make things neat and tidy)

USER INTERFACE (most of the UI mods should go here with a few exceptions)

• Character Creation Interface (this is where you'd put 'Rogue Tattoo' & 'Magic Mirror in Avernus', DO NOT PUT 'PlusUI' HERE!)
• Main User Interface (these need to be in a certain order, here is what I have installed and working:
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  • Better Disguise Self Icons
  • Better Target Info
  • Better Tooltips
  • Better Character and Party Panels
  • Compaions Panel and Camp Chest Everywhere
  • Advanced Character Sheet
  • Dynamic Sidebar
  • Better Hotbar2 (Vova's Edition)
  • Better Maps All-In-One
  • Better Maps All-In-One Icons
  • Better Containers
  • Better Combat Log 2
  • Better Split Item Menu
  • Better Topbar
  • Better Context Menu
  • Damage Preview 2
  • Better Various Widgets
  • Better Inventory UI
  • Better Inventory UI - Addon
  • Better Dyeing
• Loading Screens
• Dialogue Overhauls (this is for 'Overexplained Interaction Options' and 'Origin Dialog Tags' like mods, NOT 'No Alphabets')
• Fonts (any mod that changes the default font the game uses like 'Dragon Age Origins Font Style')

VISUAL MODS (these are the basic visual mods that add new colours, hairs and the like as well as basic overrides to game textures)

• World Textures
• Hair Mods (include your icon patches and any visual changes here as well)
• Hair Colours
• Skin Colours
• Eye Colours
• Dice Mods (these can live anywhere really, I just put them here to keep it neat)

APPEARANCE OVERHAULS (the big one and very load order dependant)

• Base Line Mods (this is mainly for mods that change things back to the old shaders, if you don't use 'Unique Tav' then you won't need these most likely)
• Realms Restored (all of it and use the load they say to use)
• No Alphabets (again all of it and use the load they say to use)
• Unique TAV
• Unique TAV Skins
• Unique TAV Patches
• Unique TAV Body Tattoos
• Makeup, Tattoos & Scars (I use 'More Makeup Tattoos And Scars' and it needs to be loaded after any new heads (Realms Restored) and Unique Tav)
• Unqiue TAV Makeup & Face Tattoo Patches

COMPANION OVERHAULS (I make a separator for each companion and put their mods in there, generally these should all be loaded after things like 'Realms Restored' and 'No Alphabets')

LATE LOADERS (these need to be at the bottom of the load order to function correctly)

• Audio Mods (I've found that loading audio mods last tends to make them work properly, but note the mods like 'DVQR' and other audio mods from this site don't really play well together. Best to use one of the other, not both unless you know for sure that they'll work)
• AV Item Shipment Framework (needs load after any mod that requires it like all those new equipment mods)
• User Interface Late Loaders (mainly for PlusUI and any Portrait Posing packs you have)
• Compatibility Framework & Patches (again needs to load after any mod that requires it like new class mods)

One final note; if you want to make 'Realms Restored' work with 'More Makeup Tattoos And Scars' or 'Unique TAV' you will have to make a patch for 'Realms Restored Heads' and 'Realms Restored Drow' so they all show up the new heads without problems. It's not that difficult to do if you read the articles on the respective mod pages on Nexus and repack the two Realms Restored mods with the changes.

[loregamer]

You would be an absolute king if you uploaded your MO2 instance to Vault @Crazed Weevil

Perhaps leaving the large mod folders empty, so they just show up in MO2 but so the download isn't too large

[loregamer]

I built a WIP version of Mod Organizer that has multi-path VFS. Works great with this plugin

Unfortunately, I can only distribute verbatim copies of Mod Organizer 2 per its license

But if you guys would like to try it, I can teach you how to patch your instances!

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1. Delete the following files and folders in your MO2 folder
   • plugins\basic_games\games\baldursgate3
   • plugins\basic_games\games\game_baldursgate3.py
2. Download this: MO2_Beta_BG3_Plugin_Patch.zip
3. Open Universal File Patcher 2.0 — Modding Tools
4. Patch your MO2 folder like this
   

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Got a problem with Script Extender now though, but it might not be the plugin, as of course Script Extender just decided to an update to v24. Now idea what updates it has and I can't find anything about it, but none of the SE_CONFIG files are being copied to the AppData folder anymore it seems. It keeps acting like it's the first time I'm running MCM. I can see it create the files, and I can see MO2 copying them into the overwrite folder when I shut the game down, but it doesn't seem to want to put them back anymore.

This beta version will allow you to manage script extender configs from MO2 again

[loregamer]

Theoretically, whenever the MO2 devs hurry the hell up and release this, Root Builder will be entirely unnecessary

[Crazed Weevil]

You would be an absolute king if you uploaded your MO2 instance to Vault @Crazed Weevil

Perhaps leaving the large mod folders empty, so they just show up in MO2 but so the download isn't too large

I will need Vault access, so have asked.

This list I have is over 9 Gb installed, so I'll have to trim it quite a bit. Is there a simple way to export a modlist with the download links in MO2? I could just upload some screenshots of my MO2 list with the Nexus IDs being displayed.

[loregamer]

Is there a simple way to export a modlist with the download links in MO2? I could just upload some screenshots of my MO2 list with the Nexus IDs being displayed.

You can clean up the mods folder to only contain meta.ini files, so we'd have your MO2 instance but we'd be downloading the mods needing manual resolution

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For the download links, you can set them manually


That way, they show like this and indicate that they need to be manually downloaded perhaps?

[Crazed Weevil]

You can clean up the mods folder to only contain meta.ini files, so we'd have your MO2 instance but we'd be downloading the mods needing manual resolution

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For the download links, you can set them manually


That way, they show like this and indicate that they need to be manually downloaded perhaps?

OK, I'll go through my list and add all the extra info. Should be about 120mb still as I'll leave all the 'Root' stuff alone. I'll try your new version of the plugin as well and I might try and do an installation guide for it all later on.

For now though I've made a simple load order list with just the separators:

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Downloads

Files	Version	Type	Description
Baldur's Gate 3 Load Order Separators	1.0	Main	Simply adds a set of Separators to use as the base of load order

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Installation Instructions

1. Open the .zip file and copy the contents to your MO2 folder
2. I recommend only using this on a fresh installation of MO2 otherwise it will likely not have the correct load order for the separators

[Crazed Weevil]

OK, here is my instance stripped to the bone:

Crazed Weevil's Mod List

Installation is as before, just open the .zip file and copy everything to a fresh installation of MO2 setup for BG3.

It includes anything that would live in the 'Root' directory (Script Extender, Reshade, Native Mods, etc.) and my modifications for 'More Makeup Tattoos and Scars' just so you have something to work with. You can always make your own and there is a good article on the Nexus page that tells you how. You'll need to download the other mods yourself. I don't think there is anything that isn't obvious what you should download, I try to name the mod folders so I don't have to guess if I need to redo them. If you can't tell, just ask.

One other thing, I've made a edited version of 'Realms Restored - Heads' and 'Realms Restored - Drows' so they work with 'More Makeup Tattoos and Scars'. However I had to unpack the orignal mods, make my changes and then repack them and of course this means they are still 2Gb in size so I haven't included them in the instance. I'm sure there is a better way to do this, but I'm afraid I don't know enough about BG3 modding to make a simple patch version of this mod.

If you want to make your own though here are the files that need to be changed with the changes already applied:

Realms Restored + MMTAS Files