Starfield - Todd Howard's latest masterpiece

[The_Mask]

nah, skyrims bad but its not pozzed

Count how many women are housecarls and/or jarls. You can be generous and exclude any widows that get there because of reasons either of your own making or of the devs' making.

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It's pozzed.

[Manny V]

nah, skyrims bad but its not pozzed

Count how many women are housecarls and/or jarls. You can be generous and exclude any widows that get there because of reasons either of your own making or of the devs' making.

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It's pozzed.

yeah, admittedly the amount of girl power **** is pretty fuckin bad in hindsight

[Roguey]

nah, skyrims bad but its not pozzed

Count how many women are housecarls and/or jarls. You can be generous and exclude any widows that get there because of reasons either of your own making or of the devs' making.

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It's pozzed.

Skyim has a sidequest where you humiliate a woman by slut shaming her and that's the only option you're given to resolve it. You're reading way too much into that gender distribution stuff.

[rusty_shackleford]

female warriors was considered innocuous because it was normalized, this is something the overton window is shifting on.

i.e., death to blackpillers

[Oyster Sauce]

Remember when Bethesda, the guys who make a fantasy series with 10 playable races, made a space game with only humans? lmao

[RangerBoo]

Remember how the head writer and quest designer of Bethesda stated that gamers shouldn't expect RPG mechanics and quest designs like in Baldur's Gate 3 and that the more linear and less player choice in a RPG the better it is? To think that this ****** has failed upward as he has.

[Envuen]

Remember when Bethesda, the guys who make a fantasy series with 10 playable races, made a space game with only humans? lmao

Cmon there were apes in it too

[Valter]

Did someone here enjoy Starfield? Anyone?

[logincrash]

Did someone here enjoy Starfield? Anyone?

The starship building part is the only good part and even then it's gimped. The writing is awful all around. The gameplay is pure slop. Just a ton of ******** with no substance.

[Statesman]

I'm giving this 5-10+ years and hoping it will become the Star Wars game we'll (apparently) never get officially:

[Tangerine]

You could just play Starwind instead.

[Statesman]

You could just play Starwind instead.

It is on my backlog together with the rest of the games chosen for the Adventurer's Guild

[Vergil]

2025... I am forgotten...

[rusty_shackleford]

Still don't understand the complaint about planets being empty. What were people expecting? It's basically an evolution of what you see in Mass Effect.
It's definitely not why the game failed, the game failed because it sucks. The story sucks, the companions suck, the ""cities"" suck, the quests suck, the shipbuilding sucks, so on and so forth.

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I just don't get what players wanted to actually be on planets. Do normgroids really have such a hard time accepting that the galaxy is full of barren rock planets?

[Oyster Sauce]

I just don't get what players wanted to actually be on planets. Do normgroids really have such a hard time accepting that the galaxy is full of barren rock planets?

There's nothing in fields, forests, caves, lakes, or oceans IRL either but I expect them to have content when I explore them in a video game.

[rusty_shackleford]

I just don't get what players wanted to actually be on planets. Do normgroids really have such a hard time accepting that the galaxy is full of barren rock planets?

There's nothing in fields, forests, caves, lakes, or oceans IRL either but I expect them to have content when I explore them in a video game.

Wasn't KCD one of your favorite games until recently? The entire game is just empty.

[Oyster Sauce]

I just don't get what players wanted to actually be on planets. Do normgroids really have such a hard time accepting that the galaxy is full of barren rock planets?

There's nothing in fields, forests, caves, lakes, or oceans IRL either but I expect them to have content when I explore them in a video game.

Wasn't KCD one of your favorite games until recently? The entire game is just empty.

The map of KCD consists of villages, towns and camps full of NPCs and quests, it's not a giant empty forest. Not in the mood for rustyposting so don't bother replying.

[rusty_shackleford]

If your argument is there should be a couple points of interest on each location that require careful searching to uncover, hidden xenos, etc., then yeah I'll agree they could have added more to them in that way. But fundamentally it wasn't the wrong choice.

If anything, seeing copypasted "points of interest" on planets made the experience far worse. It was like they were trying to throw a bone to people who wanted to play an amusement park simulator and it made it look stupid. "Oh, here's a little settlement with 4 people in the middle of ******* nowhere"

[rusty_shackleford]

The map of KCD consists of villages, towns and camps full of NPCs and quests, it's not a giant empty forest. Not in the mood for rustyposting so don't bother replying.

There's basically nothing outside of the towns. I spent a few hours just riding around trying to find interesting stuff back in ~January and ended up quitting because I was bored.

[Vaako]

The map of KCD consists of villages, towns and camps full of NPCs and quests, it's not a giant empty forest. Not in the mood for rustyposting so don't bother replying.

There's basically nothing outside of the towns. I spent a few hours just riding around trying to find interesting stuff back in ~January and ended up quitting because I was bored.

There are a few things. But you probably need that survival perk which shows all points of interest on the map, which turns it kinda in an Ubisoft game. There are still a few encounters and bandit camps which maybe have some interesting crafting materials or recipes tho even without that perk.

[Norfleet]

There's nothing in fields, forests, caves, lakes, or oceans IRL either but I expect them to have content when I explore them in a video game.

No, unfortunately, that's the problem with real life: When you go to those places, you DO find stuff there far too annoyingly often: Usually, it comes in the form of a "Private Property: No Trespassing" sign. It's **** HARD to find a field, forest, cave, or lake that doesn't already belong to SOMEBODY. In fact, there's only a few unclaimed spots left on Earth, and they're not terribly desirable places.

That's the problem. Not that we can't find content there, but that we can't make it OURS.

[Demonic Fate]

There's nothing in fields, forests, caves, lakes, or oceans IRL either but I expect them to have content when I explore them in a video game.

No, unfortunately, that's the problem with real life: When you go to those places, you DO find stuff there far too annoyingly often: Usually, it comes in the form of a "Private Property: No Trespassing" sign. It's **** HARD to find a field, forest, cave, or lake that doesn't already belong to SOMEBODY. In fact, there's only a few unclaimed spots left on Earth, and they're not terribly desirable places.

That's the problem. Not that we can't find content there, but that we can't make it OURS.

Skill issue, be more white.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

[logincrash]

It's basically an evolution of what you see in Mass Effect.

Mass Effect let you drive around in a bouncy Hot Wheels truck. Starfield made you hoof from one copypasted location to another copypasted location.

[MrTwinkls]

It's basically an evolution of what you see in Mass Effect.

Mass Effect let you drive around in a bouncy Hot Wheels truck. Starfield made you hoof from one copypasted location to another copypasted location.

I am genuinely surprised first Mass Effect didn't have some kind of Mako racing mini quests or DLCs.

[NotAI]

Oblivion was better than Starfield.

It has finally made people think about DECLINE, who usually wouldn't.

The beginning of something? No?

[Norfleet]

Skill issue, be more white.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

Nope. Aside from not being HERE, in the US, where there'd actually be anything to explore in the first place, it doesn't let you do anything there that would constitute content. You can merely wander through an unusable theme park. You don't get to collect any loot from it. Useless.

[KnightoftheWind]

The advent of the Saar Wars will potentially disrupt the crucial supply chains necessary to sustain future Starfield development, and perhaps Elder Scrolls VI as well. Our Indian brothers were INSTRUMENTAL in the development of Starfield and it's assets. Without their assistance, how will Bethesda (and by extension Todd) survive?.

[Statesman]

Still don't understand the complaint about planets being empty. What were people expecting? It's basically an evolution of what you see in Mass Effect.
It's definitely not why the game failed, the game failed because it sucks. The story sucks, the companions suck, the ""cities"" suck, the quests suck, the shipbuilding sucks, so on and so forth.

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I just don't get what players wanted to actually be on planets. Do normgroids really have such a hard time accepting that the galaxy is full of barren rock planets?

Exploring empty planets was a side activity on Mass Effect, while it was the main activity in Starfield. But I agree that the game failed because it simply sucks. Bethesda should have either focused on space nerd exploration and survivalism or going the space-fantasy route and just building ESVI an engaging gameplay loop+a handful of hand-crafted planets to showcase their systems, while leaving most procedurally generated planets as canvasses for future mod integration (even on consoles).

[Norfleet]

Exploring empty planets was a side activity on Mass Effect, while it was the main activity in Starfield. But I agree that the game failed because it simply sucks. Bethesda should have either focused on space nerd exploration and survivalism or going the space-fantasy route and just building ESVI an engaging gameplay loop+a handful of hand-crafted planets to showcase their systems, while leaving most procedurally generated planets as canvasses for future mod integration (even on consoles).

Pretty much. No one actually wants to explore the barren, lifeless surface of ProcGenSlop IV. You seen one ProcGenSlop planet, you seen 'em all. Other planets are only interesting when we can loot 'em or conquer 'em.

[rusty_shackleford]

The point wasn't to explore them, it was for them to just be there. The problem is they made so little content actually worth exploring that people focus on the wrong issue.