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NezahualDoomer wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:14
Vergil wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:00

He only did a complete 180 because it became popular to do so and he couldn't jack off to any of the women in the game lul

Also no, incorrect again, you are fighting a strawman in your own head schizophrenic:

If you cannot create at least a decent-looking woman (as well as having actually white skin - looking at you ReleaseVersion Andromeda) in a game's character creator you might as well remove the option altogether. Newsflash: Women who do actually play these games, like their characters to be pretty. The androgynization of RPGs and gaming in general is noticeable and disgusting. I'm all for more options, but it's getting real obvious that conventionally attractive and visually distinct men and women are being actively removed. This behavior should be punished, these clowns need to be reminded they make luxury products, not necessities. My wallet can stay closed longer than these useless cusses can stay solvent.

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These guys think Oblivion should lose it's SOVLE.

It's your fault if you enjoy Oblivion's music, btw.
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By choosing not to replace Oblivion Remastered's soundtrack, Bethesda made the allegations against composer Jeremy Soule everyone else's problem

By Wes Fenlon published 7 hours ago

Oblivion's soundtrack is a core part of its identity, but it's also tainted by association.

It's been at least 15 years since I last touched Oblivion, but a few seconds of the triumphant theme Reign of the Septims brings me right back to the menu screen I saw so many times on my Xbox 360. The gentler, almost aching Harvest Dawn conjures the quieter moments I spent wandering around the Imperial City picking locks and pockets. Those are good memories, but today I have a different association with Oblivion's music: the 2019 allegations of rape and sexual misconduct against composer Jeremy Soule, who wrote the music for Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, among many other games.

Before Bethesda announced Oblivion Remastered, there was speculation over whether the developer would remix or even fully replace Soule's music as a result of the allegations against him (or due to a conflict with Bethesda over Soule being left out of a Skyrim concert in 2016). But we now know neither happened: the soundtrack is unchanged, just as we remember it.

Soule denied the allegations in 2019. In the years since he's almost completely vanished from the internet, scrubbing official sites and social media profiles, and he seemingly hasn't composed a new soundtrack since 2019. Even before 2019, composer Inon Zur had taken the reins as the primary composer for Bethesda's RPGs, working on The Elder Scrolls Online, Fallout 4 and Starfield over the last decade.

Oblivion wouldn't be the game we remember without Soule's music (though you could argue the same for the shimmery haze of its original lighting or its charmingly ugly NPCs). It can be two things at once: beautiful, and tainted by association with its creator.

A change may have been hard to get used to, but it hardly would've been unprecedented. Halo 2 Anniversary's re-recorded soundtrack replaced the tracks by Incubus and Breaking Benjamin with new compositions (though they were untouched if you switched from the updated to original graphics). Until Dawn's remake (released just nine years after the original!) included an entirely new soundtrack. Indie classic Cave Story has had its music remixed and recomposed twice in the last 20 years, and fans are split on their favorite version.

For me, at least, Oblivion Remastered is yet another entry on the list of problematic art I once loved, ammo for the eternal "separate the art from the artist" debate alongside the likes of Neil Gaiman. Is "debate" even the right word? I think cop out might be more appropriate. As I get older and experience disappointment after disappointment with the actors and writers and filmmakers and musicians I once admired, continuing to engage with their creations feels more transparently a question of "Do I enjoy this thing enough to ignore my moral view of the world for it?"

Judging by the enduring popularity of Harry Potter, the answer for many many people is "yes" depressingly often. But of course the question is rarely about just one person when it comes to games or movies. Hundreds of people put their love and sweat into them! Do their contributions make it okay to enjoy them? Or do they just make it easier to convince ourselves we're making a smaller moral compromise?
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There's another way of looking at this choice, as comedian Alasdair Beckett-King recently joked(?): "A lot of people want to separate the art from the artist, but I would settle for separating the artist from her money."

Does Soule get royalties from his work on Oblivion, or from sales of Oblivion Remastered? What about from sales of the soundtrack itself, which Bethesda has bundled with an art book for the $10 "deluxe edition" upgrade? I wish I knew the answer to those questions, but Bethesda did not respond to a request for comment.

More than 100 people were credited with making the original version of Oblivion, and many more for the remaster—the credits last for 24 minutes. I'm glad we get to experience the passion they had for making an RPG that has some truly great quests in it, as well as some very silly stuff. But the soundtrack Bethesda is now selling as a standalone "app" in that $10 upgrade? That only has one name on it: Jeremy Soule. There's nothing complicated about the choice there.
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buttfucker 3000 wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:52
7Trickster wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:23
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 26th, 2025, 02:08
Elden Ring has a lot of really weird homo(?)-******-fetish material that I was surprised to see almost nobody mention once I dug into its story.
I hated the whole Radhan and ***** ****, so disgusted I even forgot his name... Miquela, was it ? Still didn't buy the DLC in part because of it.

I don't remember anything else that was obvious gay/***** ****.

Edit: forgot about Marika swapping to a Ginger ****, like Ranma 1/2
What's wild is the average normie reaction to Radahn being Miquella's lover was "Huh, i mean i guess that's kinda weird, but WAOW HAVE YOU HEARD HIS SOUNDTRACK THO?? BEST TRACK IN THE GAME!!"

We've been so demoralized now that we're just ignoring straight up pedo-bait.
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TheEmptyRoad wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:53
Newsflash: Women who do actually play these games, like their characters to be pretty.
Even better reason to keep them ugly so they don't play
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ashidakim wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:01
Wat you npc's doing?

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ashidakim wrote: April 26th, 2025, 02:36
I said I compared screenshots fucktard, can't you read? Their mouths make it worse now, they are so weird like zombies or something.
"Blind" was too imprecise on further thought. Just a weird "old = better" attitude when they're both so ugly it's pointless to debate which one is uglier.
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Reposting due to loss in multiple pages of arguments nobody wants to read.

If someone with the default unmodified remaster installed who can use the CMD window could go to the Oblivion/Data directory and run
DIR /O:GN /S > OblivionRemakeDataFiles.txt
and drop the file here, I would appreciate it as I would like to see what new files were added and their size. Thank you.
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Anti Telemetry

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What kind of a deranged trooned out half brained moron wants to give corpos his data? Why are these people living among us? They are dead husks, merely pretending to be alive. smh
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Rand wrote: April 26th, 2025, 14:58
Reposting due to loss in multiple pages of arguments nobody wants to read.

If someone with the default unmodified remaster installed who can use the CMD window could go to the Oblivion/Data directory and run
DIR /O:GN /S > OblivionRemakeDataFiles.txt
and drop the file here, I would appreciate it as I would like to see what new files were added and their size. Thank you.
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asf wrote: April 26th, 2025, 20:36
Rand wrote: April 26th, 2025, 14:58
Reposting due to loss in multiple pages of arguments nobody wants to read.

If someone with the default unmodified remaster installed who can use the CMD window could go to the Oblivion/Data directory and run
DIR /O:GN /S > OblivionRemakeDataFiles.txt
and drop the file here, I would appreciate it as I would like to see what new files were added and their size. Thank you.
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Lies.
What it really said (after the 5 minute startup sequence) was that the stable branch needed you to apt-get and compile from new source code to process the command.
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Ligrev wrote: April 26th, 2025, 20:30
Anti Telemetry

Not cool Bethesda.

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What kind of a deranged trooned out half brained moron wants to give corpos his data? Why are these people living among us? They are dead husks, merely pretending to be alive. smh
Doenst work the mod if you dont use the legit steam version. So no idea if there is telemetry or not but there was no firewall question if anything is allowed to connect. So I assume the telemetry doesnt work without steam running either?
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There's definitely telemetry, it tried to connect to a bunch of bethesda servers when it started up.
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The faces are still uncanny (which does mean it matches the spirit of Oblivion, just on accident and in a different way) but they absolutely pwn slopfield in its ****** ***.

The weird conversation idles they gave everyone are awful though. Literally do the little "nod" thing that KOTOR protagonists do if you take too long to select a dialog option. Once you notice it you'll never unsee it.
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DagothGeas5 wrote: April 24th, 2025, 15:53
Was looking for a music I recalled that is a remix of the Cliffracer song, and found this.


They might have done this to do what they believe drunks sound like, but I have been to Poland and the drunks there were always singing like the original Oblivion more than the "remaster" version. I can even give examples as the Polish dub for the Witcher games does them spot on. One drunk I heard did a pretty catchy song, very loudly, and when I woke up the next day at dawn he was still singing by the bus stop with the same zeal and tempo.

Edit: Figured I should share the music as I found it again, it is in the spoiler below for anyone curious about it :heart: (highly recommend also others the author did like the Glarthir song or the one about Geoffrey)
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SniperChris wrote: April 27th, 2025, 00:40
DagothGeas5 wrote: April 24th, 2025, 15:53
Was looking for a music I recalled that is a remix of the Cliffracer song, and found this.


They might have done this to do what they believe drunks sound like, but I have been to Poland and the drunks there were always singing like the original Oblivion more than the "remaster" version. I can even give examples as the Polish dub for the Witcher games does them spot on. One drunk I heard did a pretty catchy song, very loudly, and when I woke up the next day at dawn he was still singing by the bus stop with the same zeal and tempo.

Edit: Figured I should share the music as I found it again, it is in the spoiler below for anyone curious about it :heart: (highly recommend also others the author did like the Glarthir song or the one about Geoffrey)
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Is this a Reading Rainbow reference?
Not sure, I am unfamiliar with the show, could you tell me more of it? I never thought the Cliff Racer drunken song would be a reference if that is what you mean!
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Vergil wrote: April 26th, 2025, 23:33
Literally do the little "nod" thing that KOTOR protagonists do if you take too long to select a dialog option. Once you notice it you'll never unsee it.
I noticed that too, it almost feels intentional. Something that fans of Oblivion are likely to pick up on and appreciate.
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DagothGeas5 wrote: April 27th, 2025, 00:42
SniperChris wrote: April 27th, 2025, 00:40
DagothGeas5 wrote: April 24th, 2025, 15:53
Was looking for a music I recalled that is a remix of the Cliffracer song, and found this.


They might have done this to do what they believe drunks sound like, but I have been to Poland and the drunks there were always singing like the original Oblivion more than the "remaster" version. I can even give examples as the Polish dub for the Witcher games does them spot on. One drunk I heard did a pretty catchy song, very loudly, and when I woke up the next day at dawn he was still singing by the bus stop with the same zeal and tempo.

Edit: Figured I should share the music as I found it again, it is in the spoiler below for anyone curious about it :heart: (highly recommend also others the author did like the Glarthir song or the one about Geoffrey)
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Is this a Reading Rainbow reference?
Not sure, I am unfamiliar with the show, could you tell me more of it? I never thought the Cliff Racer drunken song would be a reference if that is what you mean!
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SniperChris wrote: April 27th, 2025, 00:49
DagothGeas5 wrote: April 27th, 2025, 00:42
SniperChris wrote: April 27th, 2025, 00:40


Is this a Reading Rainbow reference?
Not sure, I am unfamiliar with the show, could you tell me more of it? I never thought the Cliff Racer drunken song would be a reference if that is what you mean!
The theme song of the show begins, "Butterfly in the skyyyyy... I can fly twice as hiiiiigh..."
Not sure it is a reference, but I can hear it! Thank you for sharing!
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ArcaneLurker wrote: April 27th, 2025, 00:46
Vergil wrote: April 26th, 2025, 23:33
Literally do the little "nod" thing that KOTOR protagonists do if you take too long to select a dialog option. Once you notice it you'll never unsee it.
I noticed that too, it almost feels intentional. Something that fans of Oblivion are likely to pick up on and appreciate.
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I'm half tempted to buy but it would mean giving money to Scumthesda, guess I'll put my pirate hat back on.
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7Trickster wrote: April 27th, 2025, 01:39
I'm half tempted to buy but it would mean giving money to Scumthesda, guess I'll put my pirate hat back on.
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Vergil wrote: April 27th, 2025, 01:42
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7Trickster wrote: April 27th, 2025, 01:47
Vergil wrote: April 27th, 2025, 01:42
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It is sort of impressive how they managed to suck almost all of the soul out of the UI's visuals but without even the benefit of making it more functional. It's actually less detailed, more cluttered, and still fits an extremely pathetic pitiful amount of information on screen at once.
Look at this ****. The misc tab was already a disaster in the base game due to waaaaay too many things being considered "misc" but now there's not even the categories separating them. Now my books, keys, scrolls, soul gems and random crap all have to be sorted together in either alphabetical, weight, or gold value that's *it*.
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Looting is made worse too. I have no ******* idea what my current encumbrance is now just from a glance. I have to hit an extra key (labeled "search" for some ******* reason) to bring up a menu more like normal Oblivion where I can see my inventory next to whatever I'm looking at. There's no reason for it either. There's a huge **** off empty space to the side that's used by nothing so it's not like they've expanded the window so you can see more items if there's a lot of stuff in a container (which is basically never an issue anyway).
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NezahualDoomer wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:26
Statesman wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:24
NezahualDoomer wrote: April 26th, 2025, 03:10


Removed the women armor variants and changed the sex options to "origins" and now people are getting issues when they pick certain origins because they get mismatched voiced and get misgendered by NPC's, I posted a video were I talk about this in previous pages.
I meant regarding Elden Ring, since as far as I know, body type was the only woke issue with it, while the other games mentioned in your list(+Oblivion Remake) had far more issues with it. But I think rusty answered it already.
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I got confused but I edited my post already:

"Sorry I missread I thought you meant Oblivion remaster.

In Elden Ring you have multiple ***** references like Marika Miquela and Malenia."
That's just the tip of the iceberg. You get *potentially* pedo relationship (or even pedo homo), Marika being both Marika and Radagon and having kids with both Rennala and Godfrey, and then with herself(???). And that's not even thinking about it too hard.
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Oblivion?
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