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Redguards were always black. If you somehow looked at Baurus or Rasheeda and saw anything else that's your own race blindness at fault sorry.

A lot of tourists pretending to have played and been big Oblivion fans so that they can advance their real hobby of virtue signaling how much if a based chud they are.
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?

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"Ah geez dude this guy could be any race. How dare those wokies blackwash him"
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:05
Redguards were always black. If you somehow looked at Baurus or Rasheeda and saw anything else that's your own race blindness at fault sorry.

A lot of tourists pretending to have played and been big Oblivion fans so that they can advance their real hobby of virtue signaling how much if a based chud they are.
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:07
"Ah geez dude this guy could be any race. How dare those wokies blackwash him"
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It's even more unmistakable in Morrowind, so I don't know what to tell these people. Of all the things to be scandalized by, this truly isn't one.
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Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 20:31
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 20:12
They didn't alter the NPC races at all. Please take your meds.
https://images.uesp.net/archive/8/87/20 ... ranwen.jpg
https://imgur.com/KHI4H7J

they certainly changed some skin colors

i am bit confused that someone called branwen is a redguard. looks like a fuckup and she was supposed to be a nord
She looked with a full curly afro and black skin here, but this is what she looks like from a video I saw as I was looking to see Olwyn in the "remaster"
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nobody here has stated that there were no redguards in og oblivion.
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You may as well not bother replying to my posts if it's to argue anything except concrete facts or your personal opinion. I still probably won't see it.
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At least one good thing to come out of this remake is studios realizing that gamers want more RPGs, less shooters, r-right?
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:07
"Ah geez dude this guy could be any race. How dare those wokies blackwash him"
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Dude, that there is 100% red hot-blooded imperial CHAD.
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DagothGeas5 wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:12
Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 20:31
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 20:12
They didn't alter the NPC races at all. Please take your meds.
https://images.uesp.net/archive/8/87/20 ... ranwen.jpg
https://imgur.com/KHI4H7J

they certainly changed some skin colors

i am bit confused that someone called branwen is a redguard. looks like a fuckup and she was supposed to be a nord
She looked with a full curly afro and black skin here, but this is what she looks like from a video I saw as I was looking to see Olwyn in the "remaster"
i just made that screenshot myself with the latest patch. she certainly does not look like she did in that video.
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Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:14
nobody here has stated that there were no redguards in og oblivion.
You stated there were race swaps and then moved the goalposts to "well they edited the racially ambiguous redguards"
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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Envergence wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:12
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:07
"Ah geez dude this guy could be any race. How dare those wokies blackwash him"
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It's even more unmistakable in Morrowind, so I don't know what to tell these people. Of all the things to be scandalized by, this truly isn't one.
"What race could they possibly be!"
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These people are just tourists looking for the next big outrage to be a part of
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Envergence wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:12
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:07
"Ah geez dude this guy could be any race. How dare those wokies blackwash him"
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It's even more unmistakable in Morrowind, so I don't know what to tell these people. Of all the things to be scandalized by, this truly isn't one.
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:16
Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:14
nobody here has stated that there were no redguards in og oblivion.
You stated there were race swaps and then moved the goalposts to "well they edited the racially ambiguous redguards"
learn to read and comprehend simple sentences please, what i said was:
Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 19:52
i just compared oblivion goty and the remaster.

i have the feeling they cranked up diversity beyond the old levels https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Demographics

even back then it was quite unnatural how low the amount of imperials was but it feels an looks a lot worse when i compare the market districht for example.
"haveing the feeling" is in no way an absolute statement

what i said in a later post is that they changed skincolor and that they did as proven with branwen
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:18
Envergence wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:12
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:07
"Ah geez dude this guy could be any race. How dare those wokies blackwash him"
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It's even more unmistakable in Morrowind, so I don't know what to tell these people. Of all the things to be scandalized by, this truly isn't one.
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Not sure what posting proof of how bad facegen is at generating generic NPCs.
Back to the actual topic of discussion all of the art, lore, descriptions, and previous depictions portray redguards as obviously African so trying to play the "they changed it for woke!" card is silly. You're upset they made the existing black people look like black people :scratch:
I'm just stating the facts.
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Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:20
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:16
Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:14
nobody here has stated that there were no redguards in og oblivion.
You stated there were race swaps and then moved the goalposts to "well they edited the racially ambiguous redguards"
learn to read and comprehend simple sentences please, what i said was:
Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 19:52
i just compared oblivion goty and the remaster.

i have the feeling they cranked up diversity beyond the old levels https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Demographics

even back then it was quite unnatural how low the amount of imperials was but it feels an looks a lot worse when i compare the market districht for example.
"haveing the feeling" is in no way an absolute statement

what i said in a later post is that they changed skincolor and that they did as proven with branwen
Hey I heard 4chan is back up now so feel free to go back to /v/ where you clearly belong.
I'm just stating the facts.
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Envergence wrote: April 25th, 2025, 20:40
Mordred wrote: April 25th, 2025, 20:31
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 20:12
They didn't alter the NPC races at all. Please take your meds.
https://images.uesp.net/archive/8/87/20 ... ranwen.jpg
https://imgur.com/KHI4H7J

they certainly changed some skin colors

i am bit confused that someone called branwen is a redguard. looks like a fuckup and she was supposed to be a nord
Branwen was always a Redguard. It's also hinted that her father was a Breton. Hope this helps.
Her dad is the arena guy

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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:22
Back to the actual topic of discussion all of the art, lore, descriptions, and previous depictions portray redguards as obviously African
…no?
They have arab/berber(north african) inspiration as their culture
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Vergil about to start posting about how berbers are black and blacks have always been in britain in 5 minutes
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:23
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:22
Back to the actual topic of discussion all of the art, lore, descriptions, and previous depictions portray redguards as obviously African
…no?
They have arab/berber(north african) inspiration as their culture
Do I have to post the concept art again?
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:23
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:22
Back to the actual topic of discussion all of the art, lore, descriptions, and previous depictions portray redguards as obviously African
…no?
They have arab/berber(north african) inspiration as their culture
I mean culture and ethnicity is different is it not? They seem to have berber culture but look black.
Khajit have indian inspiration as their culture but look like cats.
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:27
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:23
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:22
Back to the actual topic of discussion all of the art, lore, descriptions, and previous depictions portray redguards as obviously African
…no?
They have arab/berber(north african) inspiration as their culture
Do I have to post the concept art again?
Sure
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This is what sub-saharan women look like, right?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:29
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:27
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:23

…no?
They have arab/berber(north african) inspiration as their culture
Do I have to post the concept art again?
Sure
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This is what sub-saharan women look like, right?
Congratulations on revealing your visual impairment
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:30
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:29
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:27

Do I have to post the concept art again?
Sure
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This is what sub-saharan women look like, right?
Congratulations on revealing your visual impairment
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Literally the same thing, I can't tell it apart.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:31
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:30
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:29


Sure
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This is what sub-saharan women look like, right?
Congratulations on revealing your visual impairment
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Literally the same thing, I can't tell it apart.
I wish you had real beliefs and opinions ti engage with and not just a black hole of contrarianism. If you think the woman in the concept art you posted is what a light skinned north African Arab looks like you're beyond help.
But you're not, you're just being a ****.
You can literally see the portrayal of redguards in every game since redguard before and after Oblivion and they're unambiguously black people.
You're just being pissy.
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:37
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:31
Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:30

Congratulations on revealing your visual impairment
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Literally the same thing, I can't tell it apart.
I wish you had real beliefs and opinions ti engage with and not just a black hole of contrarianism. If you think the woman in the concept art you posted is what a light skinned north African Arab looks like you're beyond help.
But you're not, you're just being a ****.
You can literally see the portrayal of redguards in every game since redguard before and after Oblivion and they're unambiguously black people.
You're just being pissy.
You're accusing me of what you're doing.
if I post multiple images of AI models stating it's an arab/middle-eastern woman, you'll cry about me using AI. Everyone knows that's not a black woman.
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They're African-American (~30% white) because they're a black race designed by Americans in the 90s and not Internet racists from 40 years in the future. Hope this helps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oyster Sauce wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:40
They're African-American (~30% white) because they're a black race designed by Americans in the 90s. Hope this helps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, they ranged from black to middle-eastern until modern TES games.
This is kirkbride apologizing for them not being entirely black(2020):
FWIW, this was a ****** decision on my part based on a ****** reasoning. I was younger and didn't realize how important it is for everyone to have someone that looked like them in any media. Being half-Pacific Islander myself, you'd think I would've been more sensitive and responsible that all cultures should be represented in a fictional setting that's far too white. This quote is one of the many I wish I could take back. I think it's from around sixteen years ago but straight up know it shouldn't exist at all.
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Modern TES games aka every game since Redguard like a said wow
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Vergil wrote: April 25th, 2025, 21:44
Modern TES games aka every game since Redguard like a said wow
just… look at how black she is! Black is Beautiful!
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