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What settings do you like or dislike? Is there a setting that's underused? Do you have an idea for an original setting?

I give points for settings that try to be a bit original. Bioshock for example was a **** game but the underwater city/cloud city was at least something new. Dishonored with the Regency era setting plus magic whale oil, and Farcry Nepal are also notable.

Medieval fantasy is starting to grate on me because it's overdone, and overdone badly. But I'm not writing it off. I'd love to see more games that look like this:
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I would like to see more games try Lost World settings (like Journey to the Center of the Earth, King Kong, She, or even Lost World).
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I'd like to see some high fantasy in the industrial era. There needs to be more settings where magic and technology work in harmony, or at least work well enough together that you can use magic as a replacement for electricity. Sci-Fi settings with actual magic and not some gay technomages is something I haven't seen in a while either.

I'd also like to see a setting like Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive where the planet basically has no dirt and everything is just rock. It causes people to live in some strange ways and some of the few plants that exist are pretty weird.
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Prehistoric fantasy barely exists for some reason.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: August 28th, 2023, 23:39
Prehistoric fantasy barely exists for some reason.
Every time this comes up, I think of Secret of Evermore and how cool magic was in the prehistoric era in that game. Using reagents like ash and such that you could find during those times was cool.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: August 28th, 2023, 23:39
Prehistoric fantasy barely exists for some reason.
I was thinking over the weekend about how an RPG with Pleistocene animals would be really cool.
GhostCow wrote: August 28th, 2023, 23:37
There needs to be more settings where magic and technology work in harmony, or at least work well enough together that you can use magic as a replacement for electricity. Sci-Fi settings with actual magic and not some gay technomages is something I haven't seen in a while either.
I highly recommend you read Operation Chaos and Operation Luna by Poul Anderson. It's a modern world where magic "awoke" about 100 years ago. The best magicians have a thorough understanding of physics, or chemistry, or whatever field they are in. Most magic has to at some level follow scientific laws, but it's still magic and supernatural and divine beings really do exist in the world.
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GhostCow wrote: August 28th, 2023, 23:37
I'd like to see some high fantasy in the industrial era.
Swanwich's Iron Dragon's Daughter is the only take on this I've seen that wasn't completely cringe. Most creators can't handle this, they can't conceive of anything besides "steampunk plus dee and dee".
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I don't know what its called but Dishonored, Thief, and City of Saints and Madmen all have a very similar setting.
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Middle eastern fantasy is my favourite kind. Europe or China just aren't the same, likely due to the terrain. Mountains and forests aren't as adventurous as vast hostile expanses of nothing interspersed with caverns or ruins.

Contemporary Africa, a la Far Cry 2, is also a good setting, it's hostile as **** on every front. Rpgs already tried South America, so here's something to consider for the future.

I also appreciate space operas when done right. Advanced civilizations, but with their own problems.

As for the settings I don't like: Cyberpunk (soybercuck). Gay, degenerate, nihilistic, and anti-human to the max.
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My favorite setting is high tech meets low tech/magic. It's why I enjoyed the Wizardry series so much.

The issue with most modern fantasy game settings is that magic is overpowered and can be used with little to no restrictions. Zoomers can't stand slower paced strategic games, but I enjoyed having to think about which spells I was casting as I delved deeper into a dungeon and trying to save my magic for when it really counted.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: August 28th, 2023, 23:39
Prehistoric fantasy barely exists for some reason.
Another great example of shooters and "immersive sims" trying new things, while RPGs, to put it kindly, remain "conservative".

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I was thinking over the weekend about how an RPG with Pleistocene animals would be really cool.
You can have sabertooth cats and mastadons as pets in Kingmaker, but there's no rhyme or reason, it's just the usual D&D slurry.
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I like medieval settings with light magic elements, like Darklands.
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Mehmed Efendi Balkanović wrote: August 29th, 2023, 11:37
Middle eastern fantasy is my favourite kind.
Genetic memory activating.

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I like medieval fantasy but only if it's based on Germany, I don't like Arthurian legend anglo ****. Fantasy should be based on popular folklore, not some gay pseudohistory about some **** named Pencildragon. Pulp fantasy like Ultima is also very cool. I don't see why spaceships and high tech should be off limits. My favourite dungeon in Wrathfinder is Blackwater for that very reason.

40k of course is the best setting in existence.
Ranselknulf wrote: August 29th, 2023, 11:47
Zoomers can't stand slower paced strategic games, but I enjoyed having to think about which spells I was casting as I delved deeper into a dungeon and trying to save my magic for when it really counted.
Sounds like you didn't bring a bard and spam the lute for the literal entirety of wiz6 and render many encounters trivial, boomer.




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Humbaba wrote: August 29th, 2023, 16:54
I don't like Arthurian legend anglo ****. Fantasy should be based on popular folklore, not some gay pseudohistory about some **** named Pencildragon.
What do you think the difference is
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Emphyrio wrote: August 29th, 2023, 16:57
What do you think the difference is
Arthurianism is/was the high fantasy of its time, what with wizards, knights with magic swords etc. Continental Germanofantasy is more subdued by comparison, focussing less on knights and more on just generally virtuous protagonists battling wild beasts like dragons or other non-magical evildoers. The protagonists also tend to bite it in the end, like Siegfried, while Arthur and most of his knights have plot armor.




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Emphyrio wrote: August 29th, 2023, 16:57
Humbaba wrote: August 29th, 2023, 16:54
I don't like Arthurian legend anglo ****. Fantasy should be based on popular folklore, not some gay pseudohistory about some **** named Pencildragon.
What do you think the difference is
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Humbaba wrote: August 29th, 2023, 17:03
Arthurianism is/was the high fantasy of its time, what with wizards, knights with magic swords etc. Continental Germanofantasy is more subdued by comparison, focussing less on knights and more on just generally virtuous protagonists battling wild beasts like dragons or other non-magical evildoers. The protagonists also tend to bite it in the end, like Siegfried, while Arthur and most of his knights have plot armor.
Dubious comparison. Almost all of the knights were dead after the grail quest and the war with mordred.
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Emphyrio wrote: August 29th, 2023, 17:34
Dubious comparison. Almost all of the knights were dead after the grail quest and the war with mordred.
After going through several MCU movies worth of adventures, yeah.



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Grimdark low fantasy.
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Humbaba wrote: August 29th, 2023, 16:54
Mehmed Efendi Balkanović wrote: August 29th, 2023, 11:37
Middle eastern fantasy is my favourite kind.
Genetic memory activating.

Anyway:

I like medieval fantasy but only if it's based on Germany, I don't like Arthurian legend anglo ****. Fantasy should be based on popular folklore, not some gay pseudohistory about some **** named Pencildragon. Pulp fantasy like Ultima is also very cool. I don't see why spaceships and high tech should be off limits. My favourite dungeon in Wrathfinder is Blackwater for that very reason.

40k of course is the best setting in existence.
Ranselknulf wrote: August 29th, 2023, 11:47
Zoomers can't stand slower paced strategic games, but I enjoyed having to think about which spells I was casting as I delved deeper into a dungeon and trying to save my magic for when it really counted.
Sounds like you didn't bring a bard and spam the lute for the literal entirety of wiz6 and render many encounters trivial, boomer.




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Beating the game faster doesn't make a game more fun to me, especially when there are higher difficulty routes to take.
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Ranselknulf wrote: August 29th, 2023, 23:47
Speed running is also a zoomer habit that is ruining rpgs.

Beating the game faster doesn't make a game more fun to me, especially when there are higher difficulty routes to take.
"I like handicapping myself on purpose :smug:"

And what does speedrunning have to do with this?




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Humbaba wrote: August 31st, 2023, 17:57
Ranselknulf wrote: August 29th, 2023, 23:47
Speed running is also a zoomer habit that is ruining rpgs.

Beating the game faster doesn't make a game more fun to me, especially when there are higher difficulty routes to take.
"I like handicapping myself on purpose :smug:"

And what does speedrunning have to do with this?




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Like handicapping myself? It's just the opposite. In fact I prefer to win games and competitions in the easiest and most streamlined manner possible.

It's why I joined a womyns boxing club so I can always win.

Speedrunning is when you try to beat a game as quickly as possible, often through the easiest means available.
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Ranselknulf wrote: August 31st, 2023, 23:39
It's why I joined a womyns boxing club so I can always win.
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Ranselknulf wrote: August 31st, 2023, 23:39
Speedrunning is when you try to beat a game as quickly as possible, often through the easiest means available.
How is picking a bard speed running?



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We need more space fantasy games.
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