Assassin's Creed Shadows: we wuz samurai n shiet

[Finarfin]

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Maybe she could've been convinced to take up Christianity due to being married to you though

[Vergil]

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[RangerBoo]

We should roughly be at the weekend peak time now right?

Remember:

When Veilguard / Avowed does these numbers Rusty calls it a failure. "Xbox live copers"

When AssCreed does it "n-n-no they are all on the ubisoft store!"

Does anyone have the Ubisoft store numbers? Remember, Ubisoft expected (and needs) this game to do better than Valhalla. People estimate that they need to sell 7 million copies in order to say that this game is a success.

[Oyster Sauce]

It did better than Valhalla

[Vergil]

Ubisoft+ makes it a total black hole trying to figure out how much of a success or failure it really was and I imagine we won't really know until we see the tangible results of this release.

[pillbox]

We'll know what a huge success the game was when we see articles talking about Ubisoft's restructuring and all the devs being laid off.
Even with a conservative assumption of the budget being $250 million, and the false assumption that each of those 2 million players paid $70, that would still put Ubisoft $110 million from breaking even. That's an extra 1.5 million units that they would need to move, just to break even.

[wndrbr]

[Norfleet]

Marrying a woman who is not a member of your tribe should be just as much of a deal breaker if not more than the religious issue.

Traditionally, marrying someone not of your tribe is how you form an alliance between your tribes.

Yea as opposed to those lovely mixed race marriages and mutt children that are so ideal. Your kids would be ****** up mutants who would share more DNA with foreigners on the other end of the planet than you.

How's that supposed to work? Your kids normally share half your DNA. If they share significantly more than that, you might be looking at serious problems.

[Vergil]

I'm a gay ****** who drinks child spit

[ArcaneLurker]

Marrying a woman who is not a member of your tribe should be just as much of a deal breaker if not more than the religious issue.

Traditionally, marrying someone not of your tribe is how you form an alliance between your tribes.

Yea as opposed to those lovely mixed race marriages and mutt children that are so ideal. Your kids would be ****** up mutants who would share more DNA with foreigners on the other end of the planet than you.

How's that supposed to work? Your kids normally share half your DNA. If they share significantly more than that, you might be looking at serious problems.

We're dealing with up to 60-80 thousand years of disparity here. It's not the same as a neighbouring tribe. The disparity can be more akin to a different species of hominid.
And why would you want an alliance with Nigerians or the like anyway? I've only ever seen the loyalties go one way too. There's no middle-ground or neutrality, because of what's being forced upon us, we all have to pick a side, and they've already done that through their choice of partner.
Besides that, mixing distantly related individuals like that has very unpredictable results. Because of how recombination works, the siblings of such a union could be widely different from one another. It's a needless headache.

You're quite right that the child inherits 50% of each parent, but in terms of proximity, the child is his own thing, and depending on the mixture, could be closer related to nationalities that are the result of past intermixture. The really astonishing point is that any random kid apart of your own nationality and race is closer related to you, than your own mixed child would be. Evolutionary-speaking, it would be more adaptive for you to adopt than to invest your life & resources into raising a mixed child. This is easily proven with how blood, organ, bone marrow transfusions are handled, and parents simply can't offer that to their mixed child. They have to find someone with a similar background and even then it's not certain.

[Vergil]

Marrying a woman who is not a member of your tribe should be just as much of a deal breaker if not more than the religious issue.

Traditionally, marrying someone not of your tribe is how you form an alliance between your tribes.

Yea as opposed to those lovely mixed race marriages and mutt children that are so ideal. Your kids would be ****** up mutants who would share more DNA with foreigners on the other end of the planet than you.

How's that supposed to work? Your kids normally share half your DNA. If they share significantly more than that, you might be looking at serious problems.

We're dealing with up to 60-80 thousand years of disparity here. It's not the same as a neighbouring tribe. The disparity can be more akin to a different species of hominid.
And why would you want an alliance with Nigerians or the like anyway? I've only ever seen the loyalties go one way too. There's no middle-ground or neutrality, because of what's being forced upon us, we all have to pick a side, and they've already done that through their choice of partner.
Besides that, mixing distantly related individuals like that has very unpredictable results. Because of how recombination works, the siblings of such a union could be widely different from one another. It's a needless headache.

You're quite right that the child inherits 50% of each parent, but in terms of proximity, the child is his own thing, and depending on the mixture, could be closer related to nationalities that are the result of past intermixture. The really astonishing point is that any random kid apart of your own nationality and race is closer related to you, than your own mixed child would be. Evolutionary-speaking, it would be more adaptive for you to adopt than to invest your life & resources into raising a mixed child. This is easily proven with how blood, organ, bone marrow transfusions are handled, and parents simply can't offer that to their mixed child. They have to find someone with a similar background and even then it's not certain.

Hey pal! Vergil here! I see you've made a well backed up effort post. It seems you may have missed that the user you're responding to is Norfleet.

[ArcaneLurker]

Traditionally, marrying someone not of your tribe is how you form an alliance between your tribes.


How's that supposed to work? Your kids normally share half your DNA. If they share significantly more than that, you might be looking at serious problems.

We're dealing with up to 60-80 thousand years of disparity here. It's not the same as a neighbouring tribe. The disparity can be more akin to a different species of hominid.
And why would you want an alliance with Nigerians or the like anyway? I've only ever seen the loyalties go one way too. There's no middle-ground or neutrality, because of what's being forced upon us, we all have to pick a side, and they've already done that through their choice of partner.
Besides that, mixing distantly related individuals like that has very unpredictable results. Because of how recombination works, the siblings of such a union could be widely different from one another. It's a needless headache.

You're quite right that the child inherits 50% of each parent, but in terms of proximity, the child is his own thing, and depending on the mixture, could be closer related to nationalities that are the result of past intermixture. The really astonishing point is that any random kid apart of your own nationality and race is closer related to you, than your own mixed child would be. Evolutionary-speaking, it would be more adaptive for you to adopt than to invest your life & resources into raising a mixed child. This is easily proven with how blood, organ, bone marrow transfusions are handled, and parents simply can't offer that to their mixed child. They have to find someone with a similar background and even then it's not certain.

Hey pal! Vergil here! I see you've made a well backed up effort post. It seems you may have missed that the user you're responding to is Norfleet.

Other people can see it.

[rusty_shackleford]

Weebs routed, in complete disarray, Yasuke has taken the field

[Vergil]

Is being the biggest launch in the UK really that big of a deal though? A little sussy to focus in on that market which as far as I'm aware isn't a major one or anything.

[rusty_shackleford]

Is being the biggest launch in the UK really that big of a deal though? A little sussy to focus in on that market which as far as I'm aware isn't a major one or anything.

I'll be shocked if this does more than turn a small profit. Amount of copies required for these games to be profitable is yuuuge.
In Ubisoft's favor, they're efficient and don't spend 10 years on their games. OTOH, they have a small army of employees at this point. Even with many in third world countries, this cannot be cheap.
Ubisoft might squeak out a win here if only because they're such a well-oiled machine that has no equivalent.

[Vergil]

I'll be shocked if this does more than turn a small profit. Amount of copies required for these games to be profitable is yuuuge.

This is pretty much where I am on it. I think a "small win" is still essentially a defeat for something as massive and expensive as this.

[rusty_shackleford]

It would have been fine if not for the fact that Ubisoft is in deep ****. There's no way this could do the numbers actually needed to save Ubisoft. They'd need something like a Genshin Impact or GTAV, a game that is a slice of the medium unto itself.

[rusty_shackleford]

It did better than Valhalla

The shittiness of this game is so understated. Can't name a single redeeming quality, even by Ubisoft standards. At least Odyssey had beautiful scenery, some good characters, and such.

[Vaako]

Leftards, weebs, and coomers are the reason gaming is in the state it is today

"Coomer" is just the term leftists use to shame anyone that thinks attractive women are a thing, and it's actually highly successful because there's plenty of people on the right that want to virtue signal.

If your immediate association when you see an attractive woman is "porn", then the issue is with you.

No, coomers are people who think that garbage like this is not just good but its something which makes a game great by default...

Sex sells.

This not.


Games are still only mid tho.

[Irenaeus]

Lmao

[UltraFan123]

Yasuke Simulator is more streamed than Assassin ******.

Ubishit on suicide watch.

[Tinky Winky]

Lmao

I ******* hate how low quality youtuber bait slop is still a thing in 2025, more prevalent even.

[Irenaeus]

Lmao

I ******* hate how low quality youtuber bait slop is still a thing in 2025, more prevalent even.

Hey, at least it's a 2 minutes video.

[Cloharp7]

You can not buy the product, you can boycott the product. But when you have the prime minister of japan whining about how their culture is being 'disrespected', oh **** off.

I'm saying being a little ***** and demanding it be censored because your feelings got hurt makes you a little *****.

Ok, hold on. In the first post I replied to, Tangerine said that Japanese mock western culture nonstop in mangas and JRPGs (which I agree to), but the moment their culture is the one getting mocked, you said they complain like little *******.

If by "complain like little *******" you meant going far enough to invoke government intervention through censorship, then I agree with you 100% and the discussion ends here.

The way I intended your "complain like little *******" was about simply "complaining and boycotting". In that case I can't blame Japanese people for defending their culture from this mockery of a game, and my argument was "if we Westerners never raised a stink about this issue in 20 years of mangas and JRPGs, we are the ones to blame for our submissiveness".

Hey, have YOU ever defended YOUR culture? Have you evet spoken out against games that besmirch it? Have you ever called out weebs for being race traitors? Did you ever suggest that they should be excluded from any white space? Did you ever even point to them as an outgroup? Did you ever point out that we owe foreign groups no respect? Did you ever show any actual ingroup survival instinct at all?

No. As a matter of fact, I saw this perspective from the first time from rusty here, and he's right. That's why I am including myself in the "little westerner ******* that never complained" category. And by the way, I meant my original claim as a provocation; we never complained, like submissive *******, so what can we do now against it? And as a matter of fact, the people here are already giving a contribution against this ********, through Steam curators, games lists, suggestions and modding.

On my part, if it is worth anything, I am buying history books and folklore tales collections regarding my country, so that if the historical vandals and cultists that are the wokies will dare to touch them, I will have the originals to fall back to and spread around.

Same goes for games BTW, it's been a few years I am expanding my collection with many of the old classics. Many from GOG, a den of wokeness and ESG ********, but they are all DRM-free and saved on external SSD , so I am somewhat tolerating it.

[Cloharp7]

Ahahahahahahah, the weaseling in this post, I can hear his bones twisting

[Vergil]

Lmao

What do I have to do for you to stop posting this guy?

[Norfleet]

Physical sales? This is still a thing? And in the UK only?

[gerey]

Ok, hold on. In the first post I replied to, Tangerine said that Japanese mock western culture nonstop in mangas and JRPGs (which I agree to), but the moment their culture is the one getting mocked, you said they complain like little *******.

I don't get where this insane take comes from. The Japanese have to be some of the biggest Europhiles on the globe. Anyone that has watched a Studio Ghibli movie can see this plain as day, and Ghibli are some of the biggest shitlibs around in Japan.

I have by no means read every manga or played every jRPG, but I never got the impression there was any outright malice coming from them. I'm not going to say that none of them harbor dislike for Europeans, but it is certainly not endemic among their content creators.

And if we're talking about quid-pro-quo, think of Western depictions of Japan, from the culturally "insensitive" to the outright lurid. Can't really act like the aggrieved party if you've been engaging in the same behavior you're accusing the other side of for just as long.

Even with a conservative assumption of the budget being $250 million, and the false assumption that each of those 2 million players paid $70, that would still put Ubisoft $110 million from breaking even. That's an extra 1.5 million units that they would need to move, just to break even.

Of note is that many copies were not sold at full price. Any copy bought on their store was sold at a discount, even though they pocket the full amount, they're still losing as much as if they were paying Vale, MS or Sony the habitual 30%. Other copies were given away "free", bundled with hardware, and there is likely a non-insubstantial amount of copies that Ubisoft gave away for free on social media.

Then you can go into more tinfoil hat territory - Ubisoft likely asked their gargantuan workforce to play the game, or just boot it up really, to boost numbers, and I've heard rumors of Chinese or Indian bot farms also being hired to inflate playercounts.

Also, we have no idea what Ubisoft means with "2 million players", it's clearly not units sold or shipped, and it might us as well be the number of keys they've sold/given away, regardless of the fact if someone activated it or not.

Be that as it may, even though we have a single metric to gauge the game's success with, we know the game is a failure, otherwise Ubisoft's stocks would have shot up, since this is their Hail Mary. They don't need to merely break even, they need to make enough money to compensate counterweight a disastrous 2024.

[Makirige]

On LinkedIn, a guy made a post :
« Did you know that even virtual characters suffer from the racism of real humans?

Ever since Assassin's Creed Shadows was announced, the unprecedented intensity of some gamers' ire has been aimed at destabilizing the teams working on the game, so as to make them change one of the two heroes of this video game. Every reason was invoked: from historical veracity to the need for identification, to the inevitable wokism.

Yasuke is based on a character who appears in 16th-century Japanese writings. Historians and researchers agree that there are few details of his passage (and subsequent disappearance) in Japan,
As a result, he has become a kind of legend that has inspired many stories in recent decades, and there's absolutely no reason why video games should do otherwise. Yasuke's problem is simple: he's racialized, which means his dark melanin gets him into a lot of trouble, then and now.

If you think "Mr. Black" (as he was nicknamed, "Kuro san" in Japanese) is a problem,
just because he has a function that doesn't seem right for you,
just because he's not up to speed with the historical research you haven't read,
just because he's taken someone else's place,
then it's almost certain that you've already thought that about a classmate, a neighbor, a colleague, and that you need to work on your biases, a little more than the average at least.

No one should have to justify their skills just because their appearance isn't what you expected.

Finally, as the game is being released on March 20, 2025, congratulations to all those who have worked on it. I can't wait, I can't wait to discover the adventures of Naoe the ninja and Yasuke... the samurai. »

lmao

[A Chinese opium den]

On LinkedIn, a guy made a post :
« Did you know that even virtual characters suffer from the racism of real humans?

I am a scourge upon all ******* real and imagined.