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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 01:15
So far… not a single answer has more than 1 vote.
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Ohhhh... :pipe-hat: hmm
In a lot of the cases I would put the rest on the same level, unless they sound like the one I chose, in which case, that would be second to that.


Sent them ordered.
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Thanks for helping(if you're getting the notification now, you're TOO SLOW)
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 02:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
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@Adventurer if I could get some more people to participate I'd appreciate it, it's for a good cause :heart:
Can you provide the original Chinese texts so I can compare them with?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 02:38
@Adventurer if I could get some more people to participate I'd appreciate it, it's for a good cause :heart:
Chinese to English is a freaking nightmare. They are very different. It's better to just learn Chinese and read it in the original language.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 02:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
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Thank you.
@Adventurer if I could get some more people to participate I'd appreciate it, it's for a good cause :heart:
What are the original lines? How can anybody help without seeing them? And the translation can be different depending on the situation...
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Kain wrote: February 26th, 2025, 03:14
What are the original lines? How can anybody help without seeing them? And the translation can be different depending on the situation...
Most posters can't read chinkanese so it would only pollute the study, I provided the lines to those that can read it :weeb:
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 03:23
Kain wrote: February 26th, 2025, 03:14
What are the original lines? How can anybody help without seeing them? And the translation can be different depending on the situation...
Most posters can't read chinkanese so it would only pollute the study, I provided the lines to those that can read it :weeb:
K, send me some lines and I will see if I can help.
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Just doing random sampling of the text now to find words that are difficult to translate for which I haven't added a glossary entry yet :yawn:
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wops mb
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 06:18
Just doing random sampling of the text now to find words that are difficult to translate for which I haven't added a glossary entry yet :yawn:
Eh...did you get my reply?
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Kain wrote: February 26th, 2025, 06:26
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 06:18
Just doing random sampling of the text now to find words that are difficult to translate for which I haven't added a glossary entry yet :yawn:
Eh...did you get my reply?
I was asking the question as part of a study, I have about 50k dialogue lines to translate.
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Oh well, have fun with it. I suppose.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 02:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
► Show Spoiler
Thank you.
@Adventurer if I could get some more people to participate I'd appreciate it, it's for a good cause :heart:
This is a bit weird without context also without being a native speaker you should probably take my answers with a bit of salt.

1.
3

2.
3

3.
5

4.
4

5.
4

I am not sure if they need to retain the flowery language the chinese possess, I guess it's a bit troublesome in translation but there is a distinct overuse of adjectives and mentioning the names of the characters and none of the above sounds reasonable.
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Deleted since I am apparently ******** and can't read.

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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 02:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
► Show Spoiler
Thank you.
@Adventurer if I could get some more people to participate I'd appreciate it, it's for a good cause :heart:
are u trolling or rly this autisitc?
i mean if u are not joking and u can get anything done despite it, thats mindboggling to jew.
cause that sounds like guy who would put shoes for 30 minutes cause string dont overlap at right angle or whatever.

maybe that helps with coding where 1 wrong letter makes code unusable but not for writing
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1e, 2g, 3g, 5g, 5e
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Tbh, if I'd care about Won ton So Up I'd help but I hate the way ****** write.
If an NPC would tell you "Would you like some bread?" in any other game its fine but the chinese always have to write it like this:
"Honorable guest, would you be so gracious as to partake in this delicacy, crafted from golden wheat, its fragrance like a spring breeze, and its texture as soft as the clouds?"
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to rethink and rewrite is to betray/censor your thoughts
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Acquired some of the Jin Yong books in the original chinkanese so I can check to see if terms exist there. Amusingly, there's not a single downloadable copy on archive.org.

Seems I can do about 20 translations/s now, something in the auto-translation plugin was throttling translations.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
► Show Spoiler
Thank you.
OK, I think I've got enough data for a small study.
I was testing to see if there was any correlation between temperature and perceived output quality. Put simply, temperature changes how 'creative' an AI model is.


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a 0.8 Hmph, virtuous niece, let us test today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
b 1.5 Hmph, worthy niece Hé, let us test today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
c 0.5 Hmph, my worthy niece, let us test today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
d 1.3 Hmph, my virtuous niece, today we shall see whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
e 0.1 Hmph, niece, today we shall test whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
f 1.0 Hmph, my worthy niece, let us find out today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is the superior!
g 0.3 Hmph, worthy niece Hé, today we shall test whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!

a 1.5 Hmm… a delicate longsword, with a tiny wine gourd carved into the hilt?
b 0.1 Hmm… a finely crafted longsword, with a small wine gourd carved into its hilt?
c 0.8 Hm… a finely crafted longsword, with a small wine gourd carved onto its hilt?
d 0.5 Hm… a finely crafted sword, with a small wine gourd carved onto its hilt?
e 0.3 Hm… an exquisite longsword, with a small wine gourd carved into the hilt?
f 1.3 Hm… a delicate long sword with a small wine gourd carved onto the handle?
g 1.0 Ah… a fine longsword, with a small wine gourd carved into its hilt?

a 0.1 I'll be frank. I'm looking for Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Dà Guōtóu, are a close friend of Huáng Shǎng, so I've come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.
b 0.8 I shall be frank. I seek Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I've heard you, Dàguōtóu, are sworn brother to Huáng Shǎng, thus I've come to inquire if you know of Huáng Shǎng's whereabouts.
c 0.5 I'll get straight to the point. I'm looking for Military Commander Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Dà Guōtóu, are a close friend of his, so I've come to ask if you know of Huáng Shǎng's whereabouts.
d 1.3 I shall be frank. I seek the military commander, Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Leader Hé, share a mònìzhījiāo friendship with Huáng Shǎng, and therefore I have come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.
e 1.0 I shall get straight to the point; I seek Military Commander Huáng Shǎng. I've heard that you, Chieftain, and Huáng Shǎng are close confidants, and thus I have come to inquire whether you know of Huáng Shǎng's whereabouts.
f 0.3 I shall be frank. I am looking for Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Chief, are a close friend of Huáng Shǎng, so I have come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.
g 1.5 I'll get straight to the point. I'm seeking Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I heard you, Chief, are sworn brothers with Huáng Shǎng, and therefore I've come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.

a 0.5 Duàn expresses his gratitude to Hé Gūniáng here; were it not for her plan, dealing with so many thieves, it would have been a close call.
b 1.5 Duàn expresses his gratitude to Hé Gūniáng; were it not for her strategy, dealing with so many scoundrels would have likely been grim.
c 0.1 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Hé Gūniáng. Were it not for your plan, dealing with so many bandits would have been fraught with peril.
d 0.3 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Hé Gūniáng. Were it not for your plan, dealing with so many bandits would have likely ended in disaster.
e 0.8 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Hé Gūniáng. Were it not for your strategy, facing so many bandits would have brought bleak prospects.
f 1.0 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Miss Hé. Were it not for your strategy, dealing with so many bandits would have been more ominous than auspicious.
g 1.3 I, Duàn, express my gratitude to you, Miss Hé. Were it not for your strategy, dealing with so many bandits would’ve been a close-run thing.

a 0.5 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous militia, yet you act like bullies and bandits, shamelessly preying on the weak.
b 1.5 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, yet you are acting like bullies and bandits, truly shameless.
c 1.3 Hmph, you call yourselves righteous troops, yet you act as bullies and bandits, preying on the weak. Truly shameless and insensible.
d 1.0 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, but all you do is bully the weak. Your actions are those of mere bandits, utterly without shame.
e 0.1 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous militia, yet you engage in bullying and thuggish banditry. You're truly shameless.
f 0.3 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, yet you act like bullies and thugs, engaging in banditry. You are truly shameless.
g 0.8 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, yet you act like bullies and bandits, using your strength to oppress the weak. Truly, you are shameless beyond measure.
Results:

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Answers — Temperatures — Average Temperature
CDCFD — 0.5 0.5 0.5 1.0 1.0 — 0.7
GAACE — 0.3 1.5 0.1 0.1 0.1 — 0.42
ABBEG — 0.8 0.1 0.8 0.8 0.8 — 0.66
EGCDD — 0.1 1.0 0.5 0.3 1.0 — 0.58
GBCDA — 0.3 0.1 0.5 0.3 0.5 — 0.34
DCCBD — 1.3 0.8 0.5 1.5 1.0 — 1.02
EDBBG — 0.1 0.5 0.8 1.5 0.8 — 0.74
DGGED — 1.3 1.0 1.5 0.8 1.0 — 1.12
EGGGG — 0.1 1.0 1.5 1.3 0.8 — 0.94
CCEDD — 0.5 0.8 1.0 0.3 1.0 — 0.72
EGGGE — 0.1 1.0 1.5 1.3 0.1 — 0.8
EEBCD — 0.1 0.3 0.8 0.1 1.0 — 0.46
FBGBA — 1.0 0.1 1.5 1.5 0.5 — 0.92

AVG TEMP: 0.725


1. A1, B0, C2, D2, E5, F1, G2 — 0.1
2. A1, B3, C2, D2, E1, F0, G4 — 1.0
3. A1, B3, C4, D0, E1, F0, G4 — 0.5/1.5. 0.8 close
4. A0, B3, C2, D3, E2, F1, G2 — 0.3/1.5. 0.8, 1.3 close
5. A2, B0, C0, D6, E2, F0, G3 — 1.0
Data suggests correlation between temperature & personal perceived quality, and little-to-no correlation between overall perceived quality.
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I didn't doublecheck any of this so I might have made a mistake somewhere. Also had to add a last minute response to the data after writing this post so that might have also introduced a mistake but I don't think so.

@gerey and @Reichspepe had almost identical answers, the only pair I see pop out at me.
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Let's learn how to count!


一 — OK, got it. One.
二 — This is easy! Two.
三 — Three. No problem. This is making lots of sense.
四 — :notsureif:
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 20:56
Let's learn how to count!


一 — OK, got it. One.
二 — This is easy! Two.
三 — Three. No problem. This is making lots of sense.
四 — :notsureif:
It used to be 4 lines until people got bored and changed it just for fun
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Oyster Sauce wrote: February 26th, 2025, 21:11
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 20:56
Let's learn how to count!


一 — OK, got it. One.
二 — This is easy! Two.
三 — Three. No problem. This is making lots of sense.
四 — :notsureif:
It used to be 4 lines until people got bored and changed it just for fun
Can't tell if you're joking but it's actually true
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 20:24
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
► Show Spoiler
Thank you.
OK, I think I've got enough data for a small study.
I was testing to see if there was any correlation between temperature and perceived output quality. Put simply, temperature changes how 'creative' an AI model is.


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a 0.8 Hmph, virtuous niece, let us test today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
b 1.5 Hmph, worthy niece Hé, let us test today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
c 0.5 Hmph, my worthy niece, let us test today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
d 1.3 Hmph, my virtuous niece, today we shall see whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
e 0.1 Hmph, niece, today we shall test whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!
f 1.0 Hmph, my worthy niece, let us find out today whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is the superior!
g 0.3 Hmph, worthy niece Hé, today we shall test whether your Hé family's Azure Heavens Blade Art or my Yè family's Arcing Rainbow Sword Art is superior!

a 1.5 Hmm… a delicate longsword, with a tiny wine gourd carved into the hilt?
b 0.1 Hmm… a finely crafted longsword, with a small wine gourd carved into its hilt?
c 0.8 Hm… a finely crafted longsword, with a small wine gourd carved onto its hilt?
d 0.5 Hm… a finely crafted sword, with a small wine gourd carved onto its hilt?
e 0.3 Hm… an exquisite longsword, with a small wine gourd carved into the hilt?
f 1.3 Hm… a delicate long sword with a small wine gourd carved onto the handle?
g 1.0 Ah… a fine longsword, with a small wine gourd carved into its hilt?

a 0.1 I'll be frank. I'm looking for Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Dà Guōtóu, are a close friend of Huáng Shǎng, so I've come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.
b 0.8 I shall be frank. I seek Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I've heard you, Dàguōtóu, are sworn brother to Huáng Shǎng, thus I've come to inquire if you know of Huáng Shǎng's whereabouts.
c 0.5 I'll get straight to the point. I'm looking for Military Commander Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Dà Guōtóu, are a close friend of his, so I've come to ask if you know of Huáng Shǎng's whereabouts.
d 1.3 I shall be frank. I seek the military commander, Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Leader Hé, share a mònìzhījiāo friendship with Huáng Shǎng, and therefore I have come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.
e 1.0 I shall get straight to the point; I seek Military Commander Huáng Shǎng. I've heard that you, Chieftain, and Huáng Shǎng are close confidants, and thus I have come to inquire whether you know of Huáng Shǎng's whereabouts.
f 0.3 I shall be frank. I am looking for Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I heard that you, Chief, are a close friend of Huáng Shǎng, so I have come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.
g 1.5 I'll get straight to the point. I'm seeking Military Commissioner Huáng Shǎng. I heard you, Chief, are sworn brothers with Huáng Shǎng, and therefore I've come to ask if you know of his whereabouts.

a 0.5 Duàn expresses his gratitude to Hé Gūniáng here; were it not for her plan, dealing with so many thieves, it would have been a close call.
b 1.5 Duàn expresses his gratitude to Hé Gūniáng; were it not for her strategy, dealing with so many scoundrels would have likely been grim.
c 0.1 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Hé Gūniáng. Were it not for your plan, dealing with so many bandits would have been fraught with peril.
d 0.3 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Hé Gūniáng. Were it not for your plan, dealing with so many bandits would have likely ended in disaster.
e 0.8 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Hé Gūniáng. Were it not for your strategy, facing so many bandits would have brought bleak prospects.
f 1.0 I, Duàn, offer my thanks to Miss Hé. Were it not for your strategy, dealing with so many bandits would have been more ominous than auspicious.
g 1.3 I, Duàn, express my gratitude to you, Miss Hé. Were it not for your strategy, dealing with so many bandits would’ve been a close-run thing.

a 0.5 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous militia, yet you act like bullies and bandits, shamelessly preying on the weak.
b 1.5 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, yet you are acting like bullies and bandits, truly shameless.
c 1.3 Hmph, you call yourselves righteous troops, yet you act as bullies and bandits, preying on the weak. Truly shameless and insensible.
d 1.0 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, but all you do is bully the weak. Your actions are those of mere bandits, utterly without shame.
e 0.1 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous militia, yet you engage in bullying and thuggish banditry. You're truly shameless.
f 0.3 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, yet you act like bullies and thugs, engaging in banditry. You are truly shameless.
g 0.8 Hmph, you call yourselves a righteous army, yet you act like bullies and bandits, using your strength to oppress the weak. Truly, you are shameless beyond measure.
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Answers — Temperatures — Average Temperature
CDCFD — 0.5 0.5 0.5 1.0 1.0 — 0.7
GAACE — 0.3 1.5 0.1 0.1 0.1 — 0.42
ABBEG — 0.8 0.1 0.8 0.8 0.8 — 0.66
EGCDD — 0.1 1.0 0.5 0.3 1.0 — 0.58
GBCDA — 0.3 0.1 0.5 0.3 0.5 — 0.34
DCCBD — 1.3 0.8 0.5 1.5 1.0 — 1.02
EDBBG — 0.1 0.5 0.8 1.5 0.8 — 0.74
DGGED — 1.3 1.0 1.5 0.8 1.0 — 1.12
EGGGG — 0.1 1.0 1.5 1.3 0.8 — 0.94
CCEDD — 0.5 0.8 1.0 0.3 1.0 — 0.72
EGGGE — 0.1 1.0 1.5 1.3 0.1 — 0.8
EEBCD — 0.1 0.3 0.8 0.1 1.0 — 0.46
FBGBA — 1.0 0.1 1.5 1.5 0.5 — 0.92

AVG TEMP: 0.725


1. A1, B0, C2, D2, E5, F1, G2 — 0.1
2. A1, B3, C2, D2, E1, F0, G4 — 1.0
3. A1, B3, C4, D0, E1, F0, G4 — 0.5/1.5. 0.8 close
4. A0, B3, C2, D3, E2, F1, G2 — 0.3/1.5. 0.8, 1.3 close
5. A2, B0, C0, D6, E2, F0, G3 — 1.0
Data suggests correlation between temperature & personal perceived quality, and little-to-no correlation between overall perceived quality.
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I didn't doublecheck any of this so I might have made a mistake somewhere. Also had to add a last minute response to the data after writing this post so that might have also introduced a mistake but I don't think so.

@gerey and @Reichspepe had almost identical answers, the only pair I see pop out at me.
Oh, you actually did transfer it into temperature :lol:
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 20:56
Let's learn how to count!


一 — OK, got it. One.
二 — This is easy! Two.
三 — Three. No problem. This is making lots of sense.
四 — :notsureif:
Surprisingly enough, Chinese counting isn't nearly as bad as other languages despite how complicated the general language is. There is a reason they were able to count quickly through the use of abacus without too much effort.
French is one example of this. Explaining would be too much effort so just watch this video instead. Keep in mind that the guy in the video only went to 100. It only gets worse from there...
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Suppose I should probably make a list of reasons why I translated a certain term as I did so I don't forget/can point to it.

灵霄宝殿(alternate form of 霊霄宝殿, traditional: 靈霄寶殿), translated as 'Celestial Palace'. — This is a term used in Journey to the West. I spent time looking up translations of Journey to the West, then I remembered Black Myth: Wukong, a very popular and recent game based/inspired by the story. Black Myth: Wukong translates it as 'Celestial Palace', cf

四散人 — "Four Wanderers", it's a term used in Jin Yong's works(Heaven Sword Dragon Saber has 4 mentions). Translated as "Four Wanderers" in the only fan translation. There is an official adaptation as a comic book… it has really nice art, but I could only find Vol. 1 and therefore cannot use it as a reference.
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凌波微步 — "Graceful Steps on Rippling Waves". This is from Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils by Jin Yong. There is no official translation of this, there is one old fan translation. I can't find any official English works based on it. Therefore, with no prior art, I translated it myself. Finding the right word to describe it is difficult, I settled on `Graceful`.
Reference: https://baike.baidu.com/item/凌波微步/85549

居易饭 — Jūyì Rice, it's a term made up for the game, a fictional rice dish named after Bai Juyi
血海迷踪 — Traces Lost in a Sea of Blood, I think it might be some kind of idiom but it's rather obscure. If it is, it means roughly, "disappearance of a lost cause", as hard to track as a trace of blood at sea?

Pinyinized:
My standard is such that if something is available on Wikipedia as pinyin it should be kept as pinyin.
I consider keeping a term as pinyin to be last resort unless it's a fairly common term, at least in the genre.

土豪 — Kept as tǔháo because I don't know how to translate it in context. None of the definitions match its usage, I've looked up archaic definitions, how it was used historically, etc., I'm just missing something here. I'll update this translation if I ever figure it out.

弼马温 — Bìmǎwēn, It's used exactly once in the script. I can't figure out a good way to translate this in context without sounding really awkward because it's such a specific term. Its literal translation is borderline nonsense, checking various dictionaries suggests it's a homophone for another term. The definition is the official position for Sun Wukong in Journey to the West — the monkey(yes, specifically had to be a monkey) who ****** in the food for the horses because it kept them from getting diseases. As you can see, that's not something that translates well…

阎王 — Yánwáng, Chinese deity of the underworld/death

明教 — Míng Cult, it refers to a specific sect of Manichaeism in Ancient China. This is the standard translation in other works, consistency.

缠丝八法 — Eightfold Coiling Silk Technique, no prior art

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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 27th, 2025, 09:41
For posterity:

The first ability you get is 野球拳(yě qiú quán), literally 'wild ball fist'/'baseball fist'. It's inherited from the original 1996 Heroes of Jin Yong game. It's a reference to Yakyuken, japanese strip rock-paper-scissors, and also a reference to 1990s H-games.
I have absolutely no idea how to translate this and keep any of the reference intact. :read:

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Going to store terms here I've translated but am not committed to. Either because I'm unsure, needs review, or I just don't like how it came out and I gave up until later.
  • 乾坤共济大法(Qiánkūn Gòngjì Dàfǎ) — Supreme Technique of Cosmic Harmony

TBD:
枕流醒心瓶 — ????, need to figure out what it is ingame
漱石警心瓶 — ????, think this is directly linked to above, both some kind of vessel??
离赤 — ???, need to see it ingame in context
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 02:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
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Would, but Im caught up in too much **** to do anything consistently. I will, however, be very happy to take advantage of all your hard work.
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Lhynn wrote: February 26th, 2025, 23:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 02:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 26th, 2025, 00:38

If you plan on answering this, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO NOT CONTAMINATE THE RESULTS.

If any of you could take a couple minutes to assist me, I'd appreciate it. No technical knowledge needed, you just need to be able to read and judge some lines of text. None of them are lines with spoilers, I reviewed them myself.
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Thank you.
@Adventurer if I could get some more people to participate I'd appreciate it, it's for a good cause :heart:
Would, but Im caught up in too much **** to do anything consistently. I will, however, be very happy to take advantage of all your hard work.
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I have long been upset that English lacks a proper term for the Robin Hood archetype, this project has reminded me of that.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 27th, 2025, 00:26
I have long been upset that English lacks a proper term for the Robin Hood archetype, this project has reminded me of that.
Folk hero?