Was Oblivion soulless slop?

[rusty_shackleford]

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Tra ... ast_Travel

[Vaako]

It started the quicktravel trend and magical markers on the map. Just so they could say our game is bigger (but more empty).

Morrowind had stilt striders but that was it for fast travel. Meaning the map was the last designed to really be explored and navigated by walking and looking around.

there was also boats, mage guild, almsivi intervention/ divine intervention/mark/recall spells for teleports. There was an amuelett from the Aundee vampire clan which ported you to the isles in the north of vardenfell if you joined them as vampire. And there were the propylon indexes which allowed you to travel from dunmer forts, but those were more a gimmick, since most people probably never found those without a guide. They were tiny and really randomly placed all over the world. But most fun way of traveling was seven mile boots + levitation anyway if you had something with magic resist to counter the blindness.

[Tinky Winky]

Never played Oblivion (and Oblivion with guns aka nuFallouts) and glad that I didn't.

[Tweed]

Is this rpghq's most divisive game?

If it had bear sex in it then it would be a land slide for Oblivion.

[Fox1]

Never played Oblivion but I assume it has the same copy paste dungeon level design and assets as Fallout 3?

[Wretch]

There’s fast travel in oblivion???

[maidenhaver]

[Tweed]

It started the quicktravel trend and magical markers on the map. Just so they could say our game is bigger (but more empty).

Morrowind had stilt striders but that was it for fast travel. Meaning the map was the last designed to really be explored and navigated by walking and looking around.

there was also boats, mage guild, almsivi intervention/ divine intervention/mark/recall spells for teleports. There was an amuelett from the Aundee vampire clan which ported you to the isles in the north of vardenfell if you joined them as vampire. And there were the propylon indexes which allowed you to travel from dunmer forts, but those were more a gimmick, since most people probably never found those without a guide. They were tiny and really randomly placed all over the world. But most fun way of traveling was seven mile boots + levitation anyway if you had something with magic resist to counter the blindness.

Everyone found the indexes one they installed the free DLC to get the master index.

[Wretch]

SOVL

[maidenhaver]

[Breathe]

I felt soul when playing through it. You can tell when a game is made with dev love; it shows in a myriad of ways.

[maidenhaver]

The perfect game is Thief, but Oblivion was close.

[KnightoftheWind]

Both Oblivion and Skyrim are 100% SOVLful and I'm tired of pretending they're not.

[maidenhaver]

Oblivion vs Skyrim, Morrowind, and Daggerfall

[Rand]

A lot of the problems with Oblivion, not nearly all, of course, but many are because the game was designed for console ******* and the pathetic Xbox 360 with it's limited ram and hard disk space.

Of course, this doesn't excuse the writing of a lot of the quests being mediocre at best, nor the awful bloom lighting, or the faces.

[rusty_shackleford]

Both Oblivion and Skyrim are 100% SOVLful and I'm tired of pretending they're not.

The first time I played Skyrim I quit after a while and described it as "sterile". My vocabulary and ability to describe RPGs has grown by leaps and bounds since then, yet that remains the most apt descriptor.
The world has zero reactivity or life. Killing a dragon right infront of someone just for them to comment "who is going to kill the dragons?!" or somesuch, etc.,

[KnightoftheWind]

Both Oblivion and Skyrim are 100% SOVLful and I'm tired of pretending they're not.

The first time I played Skyrim I quit after a while and described it as "sterile". My vocabulary and ability to describe RPGs has grown by leaps and bounds since then, yet that remains the most apt descriptor.
The world has zero reactivity or life. Killing a dragon right infront of someone just for them to comment "who is going to kill the dragons?!" or somesuch, etc.,

Don't care, Skyrim is still cozy. You can keep your champagne socialist CRPGs with gay bears.

[maidenhaver]

Only Mexicans **** on Skyrim, its literally The Heliand.

[Tweed]

I like how quest spells and weapons are level scaled too so if you get some allegedly powerful artifact at level 2 it's about as powerful as a wet paper bag and gets out-paced by the junk the next bandit is carrying. I also like how vampires have to starve themselves to get stronger, that was brilliant.

[Tinky Winky]

RPGBTHQ+ Casual Pride is going strong here.

[Tweed]

RPGBTHQ+ Casual Pride is going strong here.

The longer this goes on the more I realize how truly terrible most people's taste in games are.

[Tinky Winky]

RPGBTHQ+ Casual Pride is going strong here.

The longer this goes on the more I realize how truly terrible most people's taste in games are.

Lilura was right again, get lilurapilled :
https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2020/07/Be ... sance.html

► spoiler:autism

The Dark Ages is so potent, so pernicious and contagious, that it has transformed many a neck-bearded grognard into a casual gamer. You can find them all rotting away on computer-game forums that pretend to be "hardcore and oldschool".

It is foolish to believe that an epic-level neck-bearded grognard cannot be nerfed to a piddling Level 1 casual by the pernicious mainstream that ushered in the Dark Ages of Computer-gaming.

[maidenhaver]

I'm the last White Man, I don't take pills. I drink raw milk, and my opinions are solar truths. Oblivion is Biblical. All rpgs before Oblivion were practice, and all since stumble to innovate on Todd's mission. Oblivion closed the circle on the Septims and rpgs.

[Nico]

I get Morrowind, but Oblivion is just as soulless without mods.

It has soul. And if it's not enough, just cast soultrap.

As a matter of fact, I've been replaying Oblivion these past few days and I'm having a good time. No mods, just plain vanilla.

By the way, for a few more hours, it's on sale on steam : 4 bucks for Oblivion + DLCs. You'll need the game and Skyrim, if you intend to play Skyblivion.

[KnightoftheWind]

RPGBTHQ+ Casual Pride is going strong here.

The longer this goes on the more I realize how truly terrible most people's taste in games are.

Lilura was right again, get lilurapilled :
https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2020/07/Be ... sance.html

► spoiler:autism

The Dark Ages is so potent, so pernicious and contagious, that it has transformed many a neck-bearded grognard into a casual gamer. You can find them all rotting away on computer-game forums that pretend to be "hardcore and oldschool".

It is foolish to believe that an epic-level neck-bearded grognard cannot be nerfed to a piddling Level 1 casual by the pernicious mainstream that ushered in the Dark Ages of Computer-gaming.

lilura is a ****** btw

[Vaako]

Morrowind had stilt striders but that was it for fast travel. Meaning the map was the last designed to really be explored and navigated by walking and looking around.

there was also boats, mage guild, almsivi intervention/ divine intervention/mark/recall spells for teleports. There was an amuelett from the Aundee vampire clan which ported you to the isles in the north of vardenfell if you joined them as vampire. And there were the propylon indexes which allowed you to travel from dunmer forts, but those were more a gimmick, since most people probably never found those without a guide. They were tiny and really randomly placed all over the world. But most fun way of traveling was seven mile boots + levitation anyway if you had something with magic resist to counter the blindness.

Everyone found the indexes one they installed the free DLC to get the master index.

I vaguely remember that one never used it, didnt you need every individual seperate index to get that one? If that was the case you needed a guide too.

[Tweed]

As a matter of fact, I've been replaying Oblivion these past few days and I'm having a good time. No mods, just plain vanilla.

[Vaako]

I like how quest spells and weapons are level scaled too so if you get some allegedly powerful artifact at level 2 it's about as powerful as a wet paper bag and gets out-paced by the junk the next bandit is carrying. I also like how vampires have to starve themselves to get stronger, that was brilliant.

Yeah that was terrible but enough mods fixed that.

[rusty_shackleford]

The issues with Oblivion remain mostly mechanical. The main quests are decent, it's certainly not a game with the best designed or written quests, but it's nowhere near terrible either. There aren't too many games that can be fixed with mods that are mostly mechanical changes.

[Ryzer]

Oblivion is total **** for the sole reason that Gothic 1 and 2 did a much better job at what it tried to achieve 5 to 4 years ago.