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arisen wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:01
Can't have a long hairstyle, no extra sliders, absolute ******* lack of customization in general, no friendship or romance, companions are ugly, voice actors banned from acting, BUT lots of cardboard NPCs and a castrated plot. But hey, take that bark thingy, you can pretend you didn't see any of these.
Boy am I glad they didn't use PoE's characters in that ******* mess.
"let's make an LGBTM game where M is for "Mushrooms". also white men bad"

This entire game could have been an e-mail

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Avowed has 17 players on gamepass.

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arisen wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:01

Can't have a long hairstyle, no extra sliders, absolute ******* lack of customization in general, no friendship or romance, companions are ugly, voice actors banned from acting,
Wait a minute, are all of these things true? I may have been too hard on this game.
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Acrux wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:04
arisen wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:01

Can't have a long hairstyle, no extra sliders, absolute ******* lack of customization in general, no friendship or romance, companions are ugly, voice actors banned from acting,
Wait a minute, are all of these things true? I may have been too hard on this game.
I mean if you like to play as a butch ****** lesbian... :scratch-pipe:
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That is only if you make your character a butch ****** lesbian. No one here should be playing 1) female characters (unless it is a fixed mc I guess) and 2) a ******)

Also, Lödwyn is from Pillars 2, arisen.
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Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 14:41
> 17k peak
> B-B-B-BUT IT'S ON GAMEPASS!!
> Other game on day 1 gamepass:


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Starfailed had 20x more peak iirc, another day 1 game pass title.
And yea, it's definitely a fair comparison. Hypothetical Obsidian making tes new vegas instead of poe would have hit those kind of numbers.
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Pillars has always been troonslop
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Finarfin wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:09
That is only if you make your character a butch ****** lesbian. No one here should be playing 1) female characters (unless it is a fixed mc I guess) and 2) a ******)

Also, Lödwyn is from Pillars 2, arisen.
Didn't know, played for an hour at best.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:11
Starfailed had 20x more peak iirc, another day 1 game pass title.
And yea, it's definitely a fair comparison. Hypothetical Obsidian making tes new vegas instead of poe would have hit those kind of numbers.
I was using the most generous use case I could find. If they couldn't even hit Ukraine-Jank numbers.. I just don't see how they can be called a success.

I wonder if Microsoft is happy about their investments. Every company they bought has gone *** up in the air and started spraying **** everywhere.
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arisen wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:13
Finarfin wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:09
That is only if you make your character a butch ****** lesbian. No one here should be playing 1) female characters (unless it is a fixed mc I guess) and 2) a ******)

Also, Lödwyn is from Pillars 2, arisen.
Didn't know, played for an hour at best.
Which is enough time to know that lödwyn is in the living lands since you talk with the woman at the dock and then save the ambassador a few minutes later.
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Acrux wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:04
arisen wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:01

Can't have a long hairstyle, no extra sliders, absolute ******* lack of customization in general, no friendship or romance, companions are ugly, voice actors banned from acting,
Wait a minute, are all of these things true? I may have been too hard on this game.
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it has long hair and some sliders but yes here are way more advenced editors than this Dragons Dogma for example
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Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:14
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:11
Starfailed had 20x more peak iirc, another day 1 game pass title.
And yea, it's definitely a fair comparison. Hypothetical Obsidian making tes new vegas instead of poe would have hit those kind of numbers.
I was using the most generous use case I could find. If they couldn't even hit Ukraine-Jank numbers.. I just don't see how they can be called a success.

I wonder if Microsoft is happy about their investments. Every company they bought has gone *** up in the air and started spraying **** everywhere.
Microsoft did it to them. This is always how it goes. All these jew sorcerer companies ruin everything they touch. The point isn’t to make money, it’s to demoralize and darken the population. The money they make with usury is used on these spells to make people their trauma golems.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:11
Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 14:41
> 17k peak
> B-B-B-BUT IT'S ON GAMEPASS!!
> Other game on day 1 gamepass:


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Starfailed had 20x more peak iirc, another day 1 game pass title.
And yea, it's definitely a fair comparison. Hypothetical Obsidian making tes new vegas instead of poe would have hit those kind of numbers.
Image not so sure about that. of course fallout is a bigger ip and would make more numbers but obsidian games have never been as big as the bethesda releases
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Finarfin wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:15
arisen wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:13
Finarfin wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:09
That is only if you make your character a butch ****** lesbian. No one here should be playing 1) female characters (unless it is a fixed mc I guess) and 2) a ******)

Also, Lödwyn is from Pillars 2, arisen.
Didn't know, played for an hour at best.
Which is enough time to know that lödwyn is in the living lands since you talk with the woman at the dock and then save the ambassador a few minutes later.

I didn't even walk past the ******* pier after prologue.
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Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:14
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:11
Starfailed had 20x more peak iirc, another day 1 game pass title.
And yea, it's definitely a fair comparison. Hypothetical Obsidian making tes new vegas instead of poe would have hit those kind of numbers.
I was using the most generous use case I could find. If they couldn't even hit Ukraine-Jank numbers.. I just don't see how they can be called a success.

I wonder if Microsoft is happy about their investments. Every company they bought has gone *** up in the air and started spraying **** everywhere.
Counterintuitively, you can't buy success. The mere act of taking away the consequences of failure completely change the dynamics.
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Late 90s & 00s era Microsoft would have hatchet men in obsidian's studio standing there staring at the developers as a reminder that if the game doesn't sell 15 million copies they're all being sold to Chinese organ harvesters
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:30
Late 90s & 00s era Microsoft would have hatchet men in obsidian's studio standing there staring at the developers as a reminder that if the game doesn't sell 15 million copies they're all being sold to Chinese organ harvesters
That was then.

Bill Gates also used to hang out at parties with Jerry and Larry - Pournelle and Niven.
That was also then.

What is now is now...

Edit. According to Jerry.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:30
Late 90s & 00s era Microsoft would have hatchet men in obsidian's studio standing there staring at the developers as a reminder that if the game doesn't sell 15 million copies they're all being sold to Chinese organ harvesters
that sound like BellecoVision from code monkeys
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Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 14:41
> 17k peak
> B-B-B-BUT IT'S ON GAMEPASS!!
> Other game on day 1 gamepass:


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Let's check the performance of other Day 1 Gamepass MS games
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Avowed is in-line with most of the other single player titles. Starfield was an outlier, a ton of Bethtards wanted to own that, and that was a huge mistake given its 69% rating.
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Roguey wrote: February 20th, 2025, 19:29
Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 14:41
> 17k peak
> B-B-B-BUT IT'S ON GAMEPASS!!
> Other game on day 1 gamepass:


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Let's check the performance of other Day 1 Gamepass MS games
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Avowed is in-line with most of the other single player titles. Starfield was an outlier, a ton of Bethtards wanted to own that, and that was a huge mistake given its 69% rating.

> Deathloop peaked at 20,000 AKA twice as much as Avowed
> Had half the budget of Avowed
> Was deemed a commercial failure


Checks out. :pipe-hat:


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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:22
Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:14
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 20th, 2025, 17:11
Starfailed had 20x more peak iirc, another day 1 game pass title.
And yea, it's definitely a fair comparison. Hypothetical Obsidian making tes new vegas instead of poe would have hit those kind of numbers.
I was using the most generous use case I could find. If they couldn't even hit Ukraine-Jank numbers.. I just don't see how they can be called a success.

I wonder if Microsoft is happy about their investments. Every company they bought has gone *** up in the air and started spraying **** everywhere.
Counterintuitively, you can't buy success. The mere act of taking away the consequences of failure completely change the dynamics.

"Wait.. we won't go bankrupt if our customers stop buying our product!? S-s-so we can just do whatever we want?"

Who would of known this would produce endless streams of California trash. :scratch-pipe:
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Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 20:32
> Deathloop peaked at 20,000 AKA twice as much as Avowed
> Had half the budget of Avowed
> Was deemed a commercial failure
Check those numbers again, so far Avowed is just a few thousand short of Deathloop. Also Deathloop wasn't the studio-closing bomb, Redfall was. The Deathloopers are currently working on that Blade game.
> Repeat for Indiana Jones ^
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, Machinegames is hiring, MS considered them a success viewtopic.php?p=208901-avowed-a-tow-lik ... an#p208901
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Roguey wrote: February 20th, 2025, 20:38
Check those numbers again, so far Avowed is just a few thousand short of Deathloop. Also Deathloop wasn't the studio-closing bomb, Redfall was. The Deathloopers are currently working on that Blade game.
Correct but the studio did say that Death loop was a commercial failure and it's why they stopped producing DLC / Patches for it.

Redfall killing the studio != Deathloop was a good game that made money
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So what is this supposed to prove? That making ugly characters makes a game ****?
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Shillitron wrote: February 20th, 2025, 20:41
Correct but the studio did say that Death loop was a commercial failure and it's why they stopped producing DLC / Patches for it.

Redfall killing the studio != Deathloop was a good game that made money

I tried searching for news articles about this and didn't see anything.

Back in 2023 they said they reached 5 million players thanks to gamepass.

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Finarfin wrote: February 20th, 2025, 20:47
So what is this supposed to prove? That making ugly characters makes a game ****?
The art direction is ****. All the characters are ugly. Simple enough for you?
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