Kingdom Come 2 - Your Same-Sex Adventure Awaits!

[Acrux]

I think many of the stuff that has been speculated has now been confirmed.

Isn't that the list @Oyster Sauce put together?

[RangerBoo]

Act Ma'am throwing a fit and defending the pedophilia in the game. Remember, people complaining about underage gay sex are members of the "Woke Right" according to this disgusting Jew who, like Vavra, tried to hide the fact that he is a member of the tribe.

[Oyster Sauce]

I think many of the stuff that has been speculated has now been confirmed.

Isn't that the list @Oyster Sauce put together?

You can't be gay with your brother and Musa doesn't sleep with anyone (he's the most morally righteous character in the game after all), but it's all true aside from that.

[Stack of Turtles]

The whole "underage sex" angle is a complete nonstarter.

The real Jan Ptacek's year of birth is unknown. The 1388 number doesn't even have a source, it's speculation by (((historians))). On the other hand, he evidently had a son sometime shortly after the events of the game (I was unable to find a source confirming Wikipedia's claim of 1404, but sources do say his son was born near the beginning of the 15th century, and he was certainly in possession of the family properties by the 1420s and is recorded as having concluded a truce with an enemy in 1427) and as we've already discussed in this thread, most men - and this would include petty nobility - were not marrying and having children until later. That in-game entry is also characterizing him as "underage" in the context of ruling his inheritance, which historical practice in the HRE shows was virtually at the whim of the court and such regencies could last well into the 20s and even 30s if courtiers felt the heir was still too immature, or, more likely, just didn't want to give up power. The real Hanush of Lipa wasn't forced to let the real Jan Ptacek rule until 1412, and only because Jan sued him in the court of law; even if he was born in 1388 he would certainly have been "of age" by our standards by then! It's simply impossible to guess what his real age was.

All the developers have to say is "Hans Capon is a fictionalized character based on a real person, whose age in the game's timeframe is unknown, so we made the choice to portray him as a young adult by modern standards." Nobody could possibly make a legal argument against that.

[Tweed]

"Are there any women here you like?"
"No, I'm actually gay and I want to have gay sex with you."

????

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[loregamer]

I am currently through the intro. I think I'll quit and play Oblivion

[Oyster Sauce]

The real Jan Ptacek's year of birth is unknown. The 1388 number doesn't even have a source

It's the date provided by the game. The anachronisms I'm aware of (Markvart, Jewish quarter) are identified as such in-game. He's 15 and has the model of an adult because they didn't want to put extra effort into into rigging and animating everything for a minor character who has less presence in KCD 1 than Musa does in KCD 2.

[Rand]

irrelevant but I just find it funny that in the "defend synagogue" section, the antisemitic bigots would just dance in the background and patiently wait until the 1v1 duel is over before engaging. Such a chivalry.

That's dumb as ****. One of the strategies knights used was a couple of guys in armor just grabbing and pinning the enemy, then shoving a dagger in one of the gaps.
They could have just walked up and killed them both no problem.

[Rand]

They didn't have that at all in Mali.

Yogurt is Turkish, not even Arab. There's simply no way he would have ever heard of it.

Yup. He may have had it once in his travels, which were madly wide ranging according to the game, but they don't know **** about fermentation in Mali.

[Tweed]

They didn't have that at all in Mali.

They didn't have synagogues in Kuttenberg, but here we are.

[TKVNC]

The whole "underage sex" angle is a complete nonstarter.

The real Jan Ptacek's year of birth is unknown. The 1388 number doesn't even have a source, it's speculation by (((historians))). On the other hand, he evidently had a son sometime shortly after the events of the game (I was unable to find a source confirming Wikipedia's claim of 1404, but sources do say his son was born near the beginning of the 15th century, and he was certainly in possession of the family properties by the 1420s and is recorded as having concluded a truce with an enemy in 1427) and as we've already discussed in this thread, most men - and this would include petty nobility - were not marrying and having children until later. That in-game entry is also characterizing him as "underage" in the context of ruling his inheritance, which historical practice in the HRE shows was virtually at the whim of the court and such regencies could last well into the 20s and even 30s if courtiers felt the heir was still too immature, or, more likely, just didn't want to give up power. The real Hanush of Lipa wasn't forced to let the real Jan Ptacek rule until 1412, and only because Jan sued him in the court of law; even if he was born in 1388 he would certainly have been "of age" by our standards by then! It's simply impossible to guess what his real age was.

All the developers have to say is "Hans Capon is a fictionalized character based on a real person, whose age in the game's timeframe is unknown, so we made the choice to portray him as a young adult by modern standards." Nobody could possibly make a legal argument against that.

Just strikes me as a way to wind up the obese man.

[Tweed]

Anything that makes Vavra angry and draws more fire is gud even if it's a bad faith argument. Jew the **** right back.

[Stack of Turtles]

The real Jan Ptacek's year of birth is unknown. The 1388 number doesn't even have a source

It's the date provided by the game. The anachronisms I'm aware of (Markvart, Jewish quarter) are identified as such in-game. He's 15 and has the model of an adult because they didn't want to put extra effort into into rigging and animating everything for a minor character who has less presence in KCD 1 than Musa does in KCD 2.

Doesn't matter. It has a "?" and is clearly meant to refer to the real historical person as background information, not the character.

Just strikes me as a way to wind up the obese man.

This is fair though!

[Stack of Turtles]

They didn't have that at all in Mali.

Yogurt is Turkish, not even Arab. There's simply no way he would have ever heard of it.

Yup. He may have had it once in his travels, which were madly wide ranging according to the game, but they don't know **** about fermentation in Mali.

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they even had milk.

[Oyster Sauce]

They didn't have that at all in Mali.

Yogurt is Turkish, not even Arab. There's simply no way he would have ever heard of it.

Yup. He may have had it once in his travels, which were madly wide ranging according to the game, but they don't know **** about fermentation in Mali.

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they even had milk.

You're telling me they didn't have goats at least?

[Rand]

They didn't have that at all in Mali.

Yogurt is Turkish, not even Arab. There's simply no way he would have ever heard of it.

Yup. He may have had it once in his travels, which were madly wide ranging according to the game, but they don't know **** about fermentation in Mali.

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they even had milk.

Africans DID have cows (cattle) but I believe that's more on the eastern side north of the Congo belt.
I know west Africa was mainly pigs and chickens at the time, along with copious "bush meat": largely fowl, but some game as well.

[Rand]

You're telling me they didn't have goats at least?

Goats tended to be more eastern side as well, iirc.
West Africa was a barbarian land, even for sub-Saharans.
Not as bad as the Congo and south, but pretty backwards as compared to, say, the Kenya of the era.

[Tinky Winky]

irrelevant but I just find it funny that in the "defend synagogue" section, the antisemitic bigots would just dance in the background and patiently wait until the 1v1 duel is over before engaging. Such a chivalry.

That's dumb as ****. One of the strategies knights used was a couple of guys in armor just grabbing and pinning the enemy, then shoving a dagger in one of the gaps.
They could have just walked up and killed them both no problem.

I like how passive AI in this game is when you are fighting multiple targets, enemies would just stand and watch while you are tackling with their buddy, at 2:06 the game even let you trun back and perform BUTTOM AWESOME QTE TAKEDOWN without enemies stabbing you from behind until the animation is finished. Far Cry : Primal's AI is more aggresive than this.

[Rand]

So it appears that in the southern coast of west Africa, there were some small cattle, but the main animals were chickens, pigs, goats and sheep, in that order.
Sheep tended to be northwest Africa, nearer Europe.

Mali was very poor for animals and crops.

[TKVNC]

So it appears that in the southern coast of west Africa, there were some small cattle, but the main animals were chickens, pigs, goats and sheep, in that order.
Sheep tended to be northwest Africa, nearer Europe.

Mali was very poor for animals and crops.

Seems to be some evidence of at least wild bovines, so it's not a huge stretch to say they may have been domesticated -- but that doesn't mean yoghurt.

Even Europe, with plentiful types of domestic cattle, didn't have yoghurt until the 14th Century, at least, as far as I know.

[Stack of Turtles]

They didn't have that at all in Mali.



Yup. He may have had it once in his travels, which were madly wide ranging according to the game, but they don't know **** about fermentation in Mali.

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they even had milk.

You're telling me they didn't have goats at least?

Just like Rand said, no, I don't believe West Africa had any dairy livestock until much later. Conceivably they may have been able to milk camels? I'm not sure how far along the Sahara the Arabs introduced camels.

[Oyster Sauce]

If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they even had milk.

You're telling me they didn't have goats at least?

Just like Rand said, no, I don't believe West Africa had any dairy livestock until much later. Conceivably they may have been able to milk camels? I'm not sure how far along the Sahara the Arabs introduced camels.

Is it possible that they milked albinos?

[7Trickster]

Hope this is a teachable moment for any who tried to defend this game before release on the grounds of a man or company.

NEVER follow a person... If they are worthy of respect, they will show it in their works and only through their works should you value them.

If people did this with Varva, you wouldn't have worshiped at his feet and the moment something smelt foul you would have reacted in kind.

If you go back to the start of this thread when the game was announced, people were gathering information that was brining into question things. From hiring ***** devs, to who bought them out, various interviews, etc... all of the signs were there and if people would have been looking at that rather than ******* worshiping a "person" or "company", nobody would be surprised and likely the game would have at least had a lot of bad response long before it was released.

Instead, many self prescribed "chuds" acted like ******* *****.

Stop this ****, do better... be better.

I was more in a wait & see attitude but my dissapointment is massive. I really expected this to be KCD1 but much better since they had more budget. Little did I know the game was poozzed from the start... Oh well, I guess I'll just buy the Majima game instead lol

I just hope some people come to understand what this game truly represents. This is essentially a calling card for what they think of us. Nobody goes through this much effort for a gag, fun, or even political preaching. This is pure hatred in this work, complete and absolute.

People should be seething at this and that should reflect how they view anything in the future and I would hope more people would want to know who and why this is happening.

There is a reason why the Germans as a whole were absolutely ****** off.

Is that why German women are getting raped by black and muslim migrants ? I'm not into that kind of argument tbh, not all **** are like this Vavra.

Apathy is better in my eyes, not giving a **** and moving on. Still, it's good to talk about it, helps fix some situations but in this case the game is too rotten to the core. How could you go from a good Christian Jesus Christ be praised to ****/humiliation rituals at every turn. And Musa saying how great he and his people are while the fuckers just eat grains all day with spices. Lol yeah

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

The whole "underage sex" angle is a complete nonstarter.

The real Jan Ptacek's year of birth is unknown. The 1388 number doesn't even have a source, it's speculation by (((historians))). On the other hand, he evidently had a son sometime shortly after the events of the game (I was unable to find a source confirming Wikipedia's claim of 1404, but sources do say his son was born near the beginning of the 15th century, and he was certainly in possession of the family properties by the 1420s and is recorded as having concluded a truce with an enemy in 1427) and as we've already discussed in this thread, most men - and this would include petty nobility - were not marrying and having children until later. That in-game entry is also characterizing him as "underage" in the context of ruling his inheritance, which historical practice in the HRE shows was virtually at the whim of the court and such regencies could last well into the 20s and even 30s if courtiers felt the heir was still too immature, or, more likely, just didn't want to give up power. The real Hanush of Lipa wasn't forced to let the real Jan Ptacek rule until 1412, and only because Jan sued him in the court of law; even if he was born in 1388 he would certainly have been "of age" by our standards by then! It's simply impossible to guess what his real age was.

All the developers have to say is "Hans Capon is a fictionalized character based on a real person, whose age in the game's timeframe is unknown, so we made the choice to portray him as a young adult by modern standards." Nobody could possibly make a legal argument against that.

Yep. It really feels people are gasping at straws here. There is a **** ton of things to criticize KCD 2 on but this is by far is the weakest point against the game.

[Monochrome]

You're wrong about everything, aren't you?

[TKVNC]

I'm not into that kind of argument tbh, not all **** are like this Vavra.

t. Rabbi Shekelberg

[Valter]

Wow. Every single day has revealed a new way in which the game is anti-christian, anti-europe, or pro-faggotry.
Impressive.

[rusty_shackleford]

The whole "underage sex" angle is a complete nonstarter.

The real Jan Ptacek's year of birth is unknown. The 1388 number doesn't even have a source, it's speculation by (((historians))). On the other hand, he evidently had a son sometime shortly after the events of the game (I was unable to find a source confirming Wikipedia's claim of 1404, but sources do say his son was born near the beginning of the 15th century, and he was certainly in possession of the family properties by the 1420s and is recorded as having concluded a truce with an enemy in 1427) and as we've already discussed in this thread, most men - and this would include petty nobility - were not marrying and having children until later. That in-game entry is also characterizing him as "underage" in the context of ruling his inheritance, which historical practice in the HRE shows was virtually at the whim of the court and such regencies could last well into the 20s and even 30s if courtiers felt the heir was still too immature, or, more likely, just didn't want to give up power. The real Hanush of Lipa wasn't forced to let the real Jan Ptacek rule until 1412, and only because Jan sued him in the court of law; even if he was born in 1388 he would certainly have been "of age" by our standards by then! It's simply impossible to guess what his real age was.

All the developers have to say is "Hans Capon is a fictionalized character based on a real person, whose age in the game's timeframe is unknown, so we made the choice to portray him as a young adult by modern standards." Nobody could possibly make a legal argument against that.

Yep. It really feels people are gasping at straws here. There is a **** ton of things to criticize KCD 2 on but this is by far is the weakest point against the game.

Grasping at straws by pointing out the lead developer clearly stated the character is underage?

[MrKike]

Act Ma'am throwing a fit and defending the pedophilia in the game. Remember, people complaining about underage gay sex are members of the "Woke Right" according to this disgusting Jew who, like Vavra, tried to hide the fact that he is a member of the tribe.

Whenever I see that gay ******, he is always defending woke crap and attacking the, in his word, "anti-woke". One of those pretendo "centrists" that's just a ******** leftist.

[TKVNC]

Yep. It really feels people are gasping at straws here. There is a **** ton of things to criticize KCD 2 on but this is by far is the weakest point against the game.

Well, I agree with the second statement, the first part is not necessarily relevant.

It's a good way to upset the obese Jew, but there is something in it. No doubt it's a point of pride for him that he's managed to hoodwink people enough to get it in the game.