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Kowe wrote: December 1st, 2024, 18:00
Since Lore is on a modding hiatus, I will take over things for the time being.



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📥 Even Better Romance (Better Companions) 0.1.0MainCurrent version essentially does what Better Romance did. Only has gender restrictions and some dialogue flow changes compared to Even Better Romance.
🛠️ Toolkit Project Files (EBR-Better Companions) 0.1.0DevelopmentToolkit project files. You can drag and drop these into your game's Data folder and then open the mod in the toolkit. Accessed via Dialog Editor.


Pixelargh wrote: November 9th, 2024, 18:24
When you enter the Shadowcursed lands and talk with Halsin, there are some options to get freaky with him. This mod did a great job stopping romances with Gale, Wyll and Astarion but apparently, it doesn't work with Halsin in the Shadowcursed lands (It did prevent romance lines from triggering during the Tiefling party with him so I don't know why it's not working here).

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By the way, regarding Astarion, when you get high approval with him, you get what it seems like a healthy friendship thanks to this mod but in terms of the game flagging romances, he still counts as a romance. When you talk with the Loviatar priest at the goblin camp, Astarion, Laezel and Shadowheart still make comments like we have some kind of romance. According to the game you can have up to 3 romances in Act 1 and when I tried to romance Karlkach she automatically rejected my character because the game thinks I am already flirting with Shadowheart, Laezel and Astarion. Like I said, the dialogue you get with Astarion is friendly only and nothing sexual so the mod worked there but it didn't remove the romance flag for Astarion internally. You might want to take a look at that.
The dialogue from the images has been an oversight. It is accessible to everyone, no romance-related flags required prior to it, only having set an innocent dialogue flag beforehand. This will be changed.
As for Astarion, on first glance, nothing seemed wrong with his Approval dialogue. Will double-check again and if necessary look into the other flags. One of those can be the culprit here.
Dracul wrote: November 21st, 2024, 17:59
Hello, thanks for this mod.

I only want the romance restricted to sex (so only male-female) and nothing else. Can this mod still give me it, or do I also have to play with the reworked dialogue (that I do not care about?)
Technically no. Most dialogue has been left untouched, safe for making certain branches restricted as to avoid certain flag setting and make it less degenerate.
Can keep your matter into consideration for the next update, don't know when it will be yet.
Alternatively, if you want to have a look at it yourself, I can offer some guidance with the Toolkit project.

@Nobere Celibate version is next. It will take some time though. Sorry for the delay.
Added to main post, sorry for delay. Been sleeping and tired a lot :sleepy:
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So let me just understand, If I’m playing as a male character, I can still romance female characters right? This will just make it so dude characters aren’t constantly trying to **** me? And it won’t effect anyone’s quest or approval?

Edit: also this doesn’t remove sex scenes with male-female characters, right? Just trying to get the full scope of this mod currently. I just don’t want to constantly be hit on my dudes while playing as a male Tav. Everything else can stay.
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@loregamer does this remove sex scenes between male-female characters? Does this remove any sexual related things outside of romances? Sorry to be a pest, I just don’t want to use a mod that will remove content, besides the constant pestering of dudes trying to get in my *** for simply being decent to them 🤣.
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Sorry to be a pest again but what does “removal of over sexualization” mean? Does this remove sex scenes completely and just leave the romance? Or is there still straight sex scenes for straight romances? And does this remove other sex related content from the game?

Again, sorry, it’s just the description is a little vague, and I wasn’t here when the original mod was made.
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@loregamer, there are questions for you!
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Yea I don’t get it 😂 he reacted to my initial comment but kinda left me hanging. What’s the description intentionally written to be vague? Lol.

Because “removal of over sexualization” can mean allot of things. At the end of the day, this is still rated M game, so I don’t mind seeing sex, nudity and all that other stuff in the game. The only thing I don’t want is for my male Tav to be constantly propositioned for sex by other dudes, simply because I wasn’t a piece of **** towards them.
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Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:06
Yea I don’t get it 😂 he reacted to my initial comment but kinda left me hanging. What’s the description intentionally written to be vague? Lol.
At this point, try it out and find out by playing with this mod.
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:10
Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 18:06
Yea I don’t get it 😂 he reacted to my initial comment but kinda left me hanging. What’s the description intentionally written to be vague? Lol.
At this point, try it out and find out by playing with this mod.
I might. They have the “romance revamped mod“ on the Nexus, and there is an option that only enables straight romances. For that mod, it basically only removes same sex romances, without affecting the approval. The problem is that mod isn’t working anymore, at least for me it isn’t.

I’m just wondering if that mod and this mod are the same basically.
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Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 04:14
@loregamer does this remove sex scenes between male-female characters? Does this remove any sexual related things outside of romances?
No, you can still goon

Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 04:14
Sorry to be a pest.
I forgive you
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loregamer wrote: December 4th, 2024, 19:13
Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 04:14
@loregamer does this remove sex scenes between male-female characters? Does this remove any sexual related things outside of romances?
No, you can still goon

Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 04:14
Sorry to be a pest.
I forgive you
Ok great, I live for gooning, and I will die, gooning. The Valkyries will take me to the golden hall, gooning.

And it doesn’t affect anyone’s side quest or approval rating? It’ll just stop them from trying to stick their peckers in my homies Keister?
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Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 19:54
loregamer wrote: December 4th, 2024, 19:13
Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 04:14
@loregamer does this remove sex scenes between male-female characters? Does this remove any sexual related things outside of romances?
No, you can still goon

Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 04:14
Sorry to be a pest.
I forgive you
Ok great, I live for gooning, and I will die, gooning. The Valkyries will take me to the golden hall, gooning.

And it doesn’t affect anyone’s side quest or approval rating? It’ll just stop them from trying to stick their peckers in my homies Keister?
To clarify things, none of the sexual scenes have been touched. Pun intended. The scenes have been left intact and are part of other Dialogue not included in this mod.
Approval is affected insofar that certain nodes with approval changes are restricted by gender. The restrictions also lead to no degenerate same-sex pestering by the companions.
No side quests are affected by this mod though the dialogue Lore and I edited is reflective of choices made within side quests. Well, if the companion quests can be considered as such.
Only one Dialogue has been completely disabled and that is the polyamory one in Act 3, between Halsin and Shadowheart. The Sharess Caress Drow Twins one will require some rework but contains the same issue.
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Kowe wrote: December 4th, 2024, 20:42
Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 19:54
loregamer wrote: December 4th, 2024, 19:13


No, you can still goon



I forgive you
Ok great, I live for gooning, and I will die, gooning. The Valkyries will take me to the golden hall, gooning.

And it doesn’t affect anyone’s side quest or approval rating? It’ll just stop them from trying to stick their peckers in my homies Keister?
To clarify things, none of the sexual scenes have been touched. Pun intended. The scenes have been left intact and are part of other Dialogue not included in this mod.
Approval is affected insofar that certain nodes with approval changes are restricted by gender. The restrictions also lead to no degenerate same-sex pestering by the companions.
No side quests are affected by this mod though the dialogue Lore and I edited is reflective of choices made within side quests. Well, if the companion quests can be considered as such.
Only one Dialogue has been completely disabled and that is the polyamory one in Act 3, between Halsin and Shadowheart. The Sharess Caress Drow Twins one will require some rework but contains the same issue.
I don’t really care about any of the other characters degeneracy, or any of the degenerate NPC’s. Like it doesn’t bother me to see it. I just didn’t want them hitting on me.

IDK why they made this games romance system in the way where characters try to hit on you, just because you weren’t a complete piece of **** to them. I liked how older BioWare games did it where romance wasn’t activated until YOU chose a specific dialogue choice, the NPC’s of those games didn’t just start trying to **** you.

It takes me out of the game, and it makes me dislike a character I thought may have been cool. It would be like if I was hanging out with a guy I met, I’m thinking we’re going to be good friends because we have allot in common, and then he comes out of nowhere like “hey man, can **** your *******?”. Like dude, not only did I just lose all respect for you, but were also fighting, possibly to the death 😂.
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I’ll update the mod description when I get home
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Idontcare99 wrote: December 4th, 2024, 21:59
I don’t really care about any of the other characters degeneracy, or any of the degenerate NPC’s. Like it doesn’t bother me to see it. I just didn’t want them hitting on me.

IDK why they made this games romance system in the way where characters try to hit on you, just because you weren’t a complete piece of **** to them. I liked how older BioWare games did it where romance wasn’t activated until YOU chose a specific dialogue choice, the NPC’s of those games didn’t just start trying to **** you.

It takes me out of the game, and it makes me dislike a character I thought may have been cool. It would be like if I was hanging out with a guy I met, I’m thinking we’re going to be good friends because we have allot in common, and then he comes out of nowhere like “hey man, can **** your *******?”. Like dude, not only did I just lose all respect for you, but were also fighting, possibly to the death 😂.
I know, I do not like "romance" in any RPG game. I feel it adds nothing to the experience.

I wish every RPG had a "Horndog Begone!" setting.
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Apparently Gale's still a bit bugged. I did his awkward magic 'lesson' and it was abundantly clear we're still just friends. Enter Shadow-Lands and his triggers freaked out.
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Hello, thank you very much for this mod!
I am playing this game for my first time, and I've decided to use it after the funny moment when my lady protagonist agreed to drink wine with Shadowheart during the party but right after that, before anything happened, Karlach said that we are lovers with Shadowheart... It was really not obvious! :)
Please, tell me, does this mod reqire translation (I play in Russian), and if so, does it exist?
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@loregamer, @Kowe there is question for you.
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Narve wrote: December 27th, 2024, 12:55
Hello, thank you very much for this mod!
I am playing this game for my first time, and I've decided to use it after the funny moment when my lady protagonist agreed to drink wine with Shadowheart during the party but right after that, before anything happened, Karlach said that we are lovers with Shadowheart... It was really not obvious! :)
Please, tell me, does this mod reqire translation (I play in Russian), and if so, does it exist?
You're welcome!
The game has some other flags related to Dating, though not named as such. Likely a culprit for this comment from Karlach. I will look into it. If you can provide the exact line by Karlach, it is appreciated. Makes it very easy to find the file then.
This mod doesn't require any translation. At least yet. The game shares the same UUIDs for each language, though there may be additions for some. Like with French.

For the previous posts: The other issues are still looked into. Those being: the Spellteaching by Gale in Act 1 and the triggers in Act 2, a few more Dialogue choices of Halsin in Act 2 which has been an oversight, and the neutral scenes of Gale and Wyll being blocked.
Celibate version is still in the works, though it unfortunately got delayed.
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Kowe wrote: December 27th, 2024, 20:59
Narve wrote: December 27th, 2024, 12:55
Hello, thank you very much for this mod!
I am playing this game for my first time, and I've decided to use it after the funny moment when my lady protagonist agreed to drink wine with Shadowheart during the party but right after that, before anything happened, Karlach said that we are lovers with Shadowheart... It was really not obvious! :)
Please, tell me, does this mod reqire translation (I play in Russian), and if so, does it exist?
You're welcome!
The game has some other flags related to Dating, though not named as such. Likely a culprit for this comment from Karlach. I will look into it. If you can provide the exact line by Karlach, it is appreciated. Makes it very easy to find the file then.
This mod doesn't require any translation. At least yet. The game shares the same UUIDs for each language, though there may be additions for some. Like with French.

For the previous posts: The other issues are still looked into. Those being: the Spellteaching by Gale in Act 1 and the triggers in Act 2, a few more Dialogue choices of Halsin in Act 2 which has been an oversight, and the neutral scenes of Gale and Wyll being blocked.
Celibate version is still in the works, though it unfortunately got delayed.
Thank you very much for the answer!
It's misunderstanding, my English isn't fluent, I'm sorry :weeb: It was vanilla game where I faced this moment with Shadowheart and Karlach, and after it I decided to download and use this mod. Apparently, by agreeing to drink wine with Shadowheart, I unwittingly activated a romance with her...)
So it's great that mod doesn't require translation! Thank you very much! It is exactly what I wanted. I wish you every success in your great work!
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Thanks homie! One of the biggest turn-offs for me was everyone constantly trying to **** the main character.
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Heya @Kowe, I have not had Gayle in my party since the cringe "I want to teach you magic" scene. Were there any changes to his character?
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Yeahhhh. I am going to stick with a mod that makes Shadowheart more immersive and females still get to be with her. Because to play a female character and be locked out of a romance with Shadowheart, is kinda stupid. I mean not to mention the VA, herself, is for the ladies. This mod would never go in my game. I thought it would be cool until I saw Shadowheart would be unromanceble for females. Keep it up, I guess? So yeah this is a no for me.
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CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 15:56
Yeahhhh. I am going to stick with a mod that makes Shadowheart more immersive and females still get to be with her. Because to play a female character and be locked out of a romance with Shadowheart, is kinda stupid. I mean not to mention the VA, herself, is for the ladies. This mod would never go in my game. I thought it would be cool until I saw Shadowheart would be unromanceble for females. Keep it up, I guess? So yeah this is a no for me.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 5th, 2025, 15:57
CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 15:56
Yeahhhh. I am going to stick with a mod that makes Shadowheart more immersive and females still get to be with her. Because to play a female character and be locked out of a romance with Shadowheart, is kinda stupid. I mean not to mention the VA, herself, is for the ladies. This mod would never go in my game. I thought it would be cool until I saw Shadowheart would be unromanceble for females. Keep it up, I guess? So yeah this is a no for me.
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CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 15:56
Yeahhhh. I am going to stick with a mod that makes Shadowheart more immersive and females still get to be with her. Because to play a female character and be locked out of a romance with Shadowheart, is kinda stupid. I mean not to mention the VA, herself, is for the ladies. This mod would never go in my game. I thought it would be cool until I saw Shadowheart would be unromanceble for females. Keep it up, I guess? So yeah this is a no for me.
Wait, so you AREN’T using the mod? Your post makes it unclear!
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loregamer wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:27
CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 15:56
Yeahhhh. I am going to stick with a mod that makes Shadowheart more immersive and females still get to be with her. Because to play a female character and be locked out of a romance with Shadowheart, is kinda stupid. I mean not to mention the VA, herself, is for the ladies. This mod would never go in my game. I thought it would be cool until I saw Shadowheart would be unromanceble for females. Keep it up, I guess? So yeah this is a no for me.
Wait, so you AREN’T using the mod? Your post makes it unclear!
After reading that a female character would be locked out of being able to romance Shadowheart, who knows I could have read it wrong, anyway! I play as a female, so therefore, no. I am not using the mod. I am, however, using a mod that does this. Makes it where Selûnite Shadowheart isn't a degenerate but still wants to be with a female.
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CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:30
loregamer wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:27
CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 15:56
Yeahhhh. I am going to stick with a mod that makes Shadowheart more immersive and females still get to be with her. Because to play a female character and be locked out of a romance with Shadowheart, is kinda stupid. I mean not to mention the VA, herself, is for the ladies. This mod would never go in my game. I thought it would be cool until I saw Shadowheart would be unromanceble for females. Keep it up, I guess? So yeah this is a no for me.
Wait, so you AREN’T using the mod? Your post makes it unclear!
After reading that a female character would be locked out of being able to romance Shadowheart, who knows I could have read it wrong, anyway! I play as a female, so therefore, no. I am not using the mod. I am, however, using a mod that does this. Makes it where Selûnite Shadowheart isn't a degenerate but still wants to be with a female.
I still need further and lengthier explanation. What does the other mod do differently than this one?
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CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:30
Makes it where Selûnite Shadowheart isn't a degenerate but still wants to be with a female.
This is contradictory.
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loregamer wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:32
CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:30
loregamer wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:27


Wait, so you AREN’T using the mod? Your post makes it unclear!
After reading that a female character would be locked out of being able to romance Shadowheart, who knows I could have read it wrong, anyway! I play as a female, so therefore, no. I am not using the mod. I am, however, using a mod that does this. Makes it where Selûnite Shadowheart isn't a degenerate but still wants to be with a female.
I still need more explanation. What does the other mod do differently than this one?
First off, it doesn't take away the same-sex option for Shadowheart. I mean the VA of Shadowheart is, well, into ladies. In fact every time the mod gets updated, sure BT2 gets updated first. But they do make sure all body types and races are able to do the exact same thing. So let's say they updated a greeting or something. The women aren't left out. Women get that too. And it also brings back old dialogue that was scrapped. And so forth. Shadowheart in that mod is more immersive and she isn't picky on who she is with. Because lets face the facts, Shadowheart would be happy to be with a male or a female as long as they make her happy. Its pretty much seen throughout the entirety of the game. Especially a Gith, because let's face it. Shadowheart and Lae'zel are defiantly canon. Either way. I will stick with being able to be with Shadowheart as a female Gith Selûnite Durge.
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CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:43
loregamer wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:32
CrimsynRain wrote: February 5th, 2025, 16:30


After reading that a female character would be locked out of being able to romance Shadowheart, who knows I could have read it wrong, anyway! I play as a female, so therefore, no. I am not using the mod. I am, however, using a mod that does this. Makes it where Selûnite Shadowheart isn't a degenerate but still wants to be with a female.
I still need more explanation. What does the other mod do differently than this one?
First off, it doesn't take away the same-sex option for Shadowheart. I mean the VA of Shadowheart is, well, into ladies. In fact every time the mod gets updated, sure BT2 gets updated first. But they do make sure all body types and races are able to do the exact same thing. So let's say they updated a greeting or something. The women aren't left out. Women get that too. And it also brings back old dialogue that was scrapped. And so forth. Shadowheart in that mod is more immersive and she isn't picky on who she is with. Because lets face the facts, Shadowheart would be happy to be with a male or a female as long as they make her happy. Its pretty much seen throughout the entirety of the game. Especially a Gith, because let's face it. Shadowheart and Lae'zel are defiantly canon. Either way. I will stick with being able to be with Shadowheart as a female Gith Selûnite Durge.
Shadowheart dates Giths? Can you explain more? I don’t get it
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