Kingdom Come 2 - Your Same-Sex Adventure Awaits!

[TKVNC]

I blame game devs for making bows have a dexterity requirement instead of a strength requirement for the widespread belief that women can use war bows.

FWIW M&B Warband bows require strength

[Tangerine]

Also, I suppose I should add, it's not a stirrup crossbow, has no placement for a windlass.

It's a sort of medium crossbow. Clearly the type that requires strength and a long lever (goat's foot) to **** it.
Still should have a stirrup, though. Only the lightest hand-drawn ones didn't. And that one would take a VERY strong man to hand-draw those arms.
Few women could do it even with the stirrup and lever, though. It'll be a 200 pound plus draw or so and even with mechanical advantage and the legs, it'll be hard.
Windlass heavy crossbows with steel arms could have a 1000 pound draw.

It's remarkable that people actually think Crossbows are an 'easier' weapon than a bow; the reason they became more popular than bows was never ease of use - it was raw power

Never having used one, I'd have thought it'd be easier since you didn't have to sustain the pull yourself when aiming. Is the depiction of a crossbowman lowering the crossbow and using their leg to help draw the string ahistorical?

[Rand]

Also, I suppose I should add, it's not a stirrup crossbow, has no placement for a windlass.

It's a sort of medium crossbow. Clearly the type that requires strength and a long lever (goat's foot) to **** it.
Still should have a stirrup, though. Only the lightest hand-drawn ones didn't. And that one would take a VERY strong man to hand-draw those arms.
Few women could do it even with the stirrup and lever, though. It'll be a 200 pound plus draw or so and even with mechanical advantage and the legs, it'll be hard.
Windlass heavy crossbows with steel arms could have a 1000 pound draw.

It's remarkable that people actually think Crossbows are an 'easier' weapon than a bow; the reason they became more popular than bows was never ease of use - it was raw power

It's easier to shoot, especially when used on a rest. Pretty accurate with little practice.
The bow is neither of those things, especially war bows. You have to be a strong ************ to hold the string back and aim well.
The strength difficulty of the two weapons is different, but in the same range.
Also, larger crossbows are VERY front-heavy. There's a reason why they used a kind of slim post/tiller-stock that you put under your armpit and not a modern shoulder stock.

[TKVNC]

It's a sort of medium crossbow. Clearly the type that requires strength and a long lever (goat's foot) to **** it.
Still should have a stirrup, though. Only the lightest hand-drawn ones didn't. And that one would take a VERY strong man to hand-draw those arms.
Few women could do it even with the stirrup and lever, though. It'll be a 200 pound plus draw or so and even with mechanical advantage and the legs, it'll be hard.
Windlass heavy crossbows with steel arms could have a 1000 pound draw.

It's remarkable that people actually think Crossbows are an 'easier' weapon than a bow; the reason they became more popular than bows was never ease of use - it was raw power

Never having used one, I'd have thought it'd be easier since you didn't have to sustain the pull yourself when aiming. Is the depiction of a crossbowman lowering the crossbow and using their leg to help draw the string ahistorical?

Nah, using a strirrup on a crossbow and pulling is very real, there was many ways to help this process too as it requires remarkable power.

As for bows, you don't really 'sustain' the draw for long, you release shortly after drawing it

[Rand]

It's a sort of medium crossbow. Clearly the type that requires strength and a long lever (goat's foot) to **** it.
Still should have a stirrup, though. Only the lightest hand-drawn ones didn't. And that one would take a VERY strong man to hand-draw those arms.
Few women could do it even with the stirrup and lever, though. It'll be a 200 pound plus draw or so and even with mechanical advantage and the legs, it'll be hard.
Windlass heavy crossbows with steel arms could have a 1000 pound draw.

It's remarkable that people actually think Crossbows are an 'easier' weapon than a bow; the reason they became more popular than bows was never ease of use - it was raw power

Never having used one, I'd have thought it'd be easier since you didn't have to sustain the pull yourself when aiming. Is the depiction of a crossbowman lowering the crossbow and using their leg to help draw the string ahistorical?

Crossbows in order of draw difficulty:
Hand-drawn (only the lightest hunting weapons)
Held with foot in stirrup, belt with hooks so you can assist hands with legs & back (light wood crossbows).
Held with foot in stirrup, lever cocked. Again, arms and back (legs not so much for this).
Some sort of mechanical system like a separate windlass. Requires less strength but is slow AF.

[Rand]

[Shady]

KCD is somebody playing Oblivion and going "All those boring things that aren't in the game? Yeah, those would make a great game!" and being objectively wrong.

The audacity of calling another game boring while going trough the Oblivion gate number 3754. Only good questlines in Oblivion is DB and TG.

[Rand]

Only good questlines in Oblivion is DB

Correction: the first half of DB. The second half has your character forcibly ********.
Which makes sense, since it was written by that ****** Emil Pagliwhateverthefuck.

If you're not a console moron, you can sense something's off with the notes, but you're railroaded into continuing to do things and can't start a quest-investigation.
If you figure **** out early yourself because you're a player with a brain, investigate, then find and dump the "object" at the feet of the now-known traitor, there's zero response, and that's the opposite of what WOULD happen if you did that.
You have to let the traitor continue "deceiving" you until the plot figures out what you as the player already know.
You have to let the plot do what it wants in the order that it wants or else it doesn't advance.
It's ********.

[maidenhaver]

KCD is somebody playing Oblivion and going "All those boring things that aren't in the game? Yeah, those would make a great game!" and being objectively wrong.

The audacity of calling another game boring while going trough the Oblivion gate number 3754. Only good questline in Oblivion is DB and TG.

Hey, at least Oblivion had dungeons and magic. I can't help but notice KCD is a movie game, punctuated by stuff which autists had begged for on the ESF general board. They asked for all this "realistic" **** that made its way into KCD, which just looks boring imho.

[maidenhaver]

How many times has a White Man got to be tricked into playing some autistic heeb's Oblivion modlist?

[Oyster Sauce]

Turns out the real unskippable gay cutscene was this thread all along

[Nemesis]

Warhorse will be steaming on Twitch in 2 hours. You should come help me nicely ask some questions.

How'd it go?

[Oyster Sauce]

Really like the idea that nobody would document seeing a black person for the first time in Medieval Europe when in 2025 if a white woman goes to India literally hundreds of browns will swarm her and take as many pictures as possible

[maidenhaver]

Gamedev: We made a realistic Oblivion, based on my modlist!
Realistic Oblivion: no dungeons, a woman dlc, a snarky ******, a gay sex scene, no magic, **** fetish, robotic combat, bows without a reticle, HBO drama main quest, europeans are le bad

I think Oblivion is owed an apology.

[Oyster Sauce]

Warhorse will be steaming on Twitch in 2 hours. You should come help me nicely ask some questions.

How'd it go?

They banned like 10 accounts I made and deleted all messages asking about the controversies as soon as they could before eventually switching to follower-only chat where you had to have been a follower for at least 10 minutes to send messages. I suspect at some point they started using manual filters to catch certain messages and flag them for mod approval before being sent, but I don't use Twitch so maybe it was just an automatic feature of the site.

This was said in the final 2 seconds of the 1-2 hour long stream.

"Trust us, and don't believe everything you read on the Internet." were the last words of the stream.



I suspect the gay stuff is overblown and Musa is worse than possibly imagined.

[Tweed]

Also, I suppose I should add, it's not a stirrup crossbow, has no placement for a windlass.

It's a sort of medium crossbow. Clearly the type that requires strength and a long lever (goat's foot) to **** it.
Still should have a stirrup, though. Only the lightest hand-drawn ones didn't. And that one would take a VERY strong man to hand-draw those arms.
Few women could do it even with the stirrup and lever, though. It'll be a 200 pound plus draw or so and even with mechanical advantage and the legs, it'll be hard.
Windlass heavy crossbows with steel arms could have a 1000 pound draw.

It's remarkable that people actually think Crossbows are an 'easier' weapon than a bow; the reason they became more popular than bows was never ease of use - it was raw power

I thought ease of use was a benefit as in you could train a group of men to use crossbows in a matter of weeks versus the years it took to become proficient with the bow, but I guess I was wrong. Both require upper body strength to use properly.

[maidenhaver]

Crossbow is the medieval fullbody regimen.

[Oyster Sauce]

Crossbows look really easy to reload with all of the mechanical advantage tools available. I bet some little kid could do it.

[Marcus]

[Oyster Sauce]

Really like the idea that nobody would document seeing a black person for the first time in Medieval Europe when in 2025 if a white woman goes to India literally hundreds of browns will swarm her and take as many pictures as possible

White people behavior =|= black/brown people behavior.

Naturally, ugly and disgusting black/brown people would be amazed at the (first) sight of a White person and take pictures.

Naturally, beautiful and noble White people would be disgusted and horrified at the (first) sight of a non-white person and make sure that no other White man or woman would ever have to endure the same traumatic experience by completely erasing all occurrences from history.

They'd probably be really interested and excited to meet someone different

[gerey]

I thought ease of use was a benefit as in you could train a group of men to use crossbows in a matter of weeks versus the years it took to become proficient with the bow, but I guess I was wrong. Both require upper body strength to use properly.

Not a matter of weeks - crossbows were the "high tech" weapon of the time, so you needed a certain degree of mechanical skill to use one, if only because you needed to have the knowledge on how to maintain and fix it. While you could probably teach someone how to arm a crossbow quicker than you could train an archer (that being a lifelong commitment), effective crossbowmen still required a lot of training to be able to sustain a fast and accurate rate of fire, especially under pressure.

And while crossbows required strength, it was nowhere near the level necessary to use a warbow - there's stories floating around about people picking fights with archers in taverns and dying from a single punch.

Another aspect that is rarely talked about is the fact that crossbows were expensive to make, so you wouldn't be giving them to some random levy hick that walked off the field with a pitchfork and a pot for a helmet.

Also, it helps to think of crossbows as the medieval "shotgun" - while they could launch a projectile with much larger force than a bow, darts being so heavy (to withstand the forces being applied to them) affected the distance they could travel, so you were mostly stuck firing crossbows horizontally, while you could fire a bow over the heads of your other troops.

[maidenhaver]

******* were so common, that europeans believed the child of a ****** and european would obviously make a spotted person.

[Segata]

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[Oyster Sauce]

New Code of Conduct added an hour ago to the Steam KCD 2 forum. There was none previously.

[TKVNC]

It's over https://steamcommunity.com/app/1771300/ ... 807138779/

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We get it—this is a PEGI 18 game, and colourful language is part of the vibe. Occasional swearing is fine, but keep it reasonable. Excessive profanity, bigotry, sexism, racism, hate speech, sexual harassment, or threats will not be tolerated.


Stay on Topic
Discussions should focus on Kingdom Come: Deliverance II or related topics. Whether you're debating tactics, sharing gameplay stories, or discussing medieval history, let’s keep it relevant to our world.
Respect Others
Treat everyone with dignity and respect. Harassment, personal attacks, hate speech, and inflammatory behaviour are strictly forbidden.
No Political or Religious Debates
While our game may explore historical themes, this forum is not the place for modern political or religious discussions.
No Spoilers Without Warning
If you’re discussing key story points, please use spoiler tags or clearly label your post. Let others experience the game without unwelcome surprises.
Keep It Clean
Avoid profanity, NSFW content, or anything that violates common decency. This is a space for all adventurers.
No Spam or Self-Promotion
Posting irrelevant, repetitive, or self-promotional content (including links to unrelated projects) is prohibited.
Report Rather Than Retaliate
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Confirmed musa ****** 'game'

Boy I love being lectured to by my 'entertainment'

Rest in **** warhorse lmao

[Tangerine]

They can't possibly think that won't backfire on them.

[Tinky Winky]

Warhorse will be steaming on Twitch in 2 hours. You should come help me nicely ask some questions.

How'd it go?

They banned like 10 accounts I made and deleted all messages asking about the controversies as soon as they could before eventually switching to follower-only chat where you had to have been a follower for at least 10 minutes to send messages. I suspect at some point they started using manual filters to catch certain messages and flag them for mod approval before being sent, but I don't use Twitch so maybe it was just an automatic feature of the site.

This was said in the final 2 seconds of the 1-2 hour long stream.

"Trust us, and don't believe everything you read on the Internet." were the last words of the stream.



I suspect the gay stuff is overblown and Musa is worse than possibly imagined.

Imagine still trusting this Viagra *** at this point. Whoever paid real money for this slop should really get a cuckold badge.

[Wretch]

Also, I suppose I should add, it's not a stirrup crossbow, has no placement for a windlass.

It's a sort of medium crossbow. Clearly the type that requires strength and a long lever (goat's foot) to **** it.
Still should have a stirrup, though. Only the lightest hand-drawn ones didn't. And that one would take a VERY strong man to hand-draw those arms.
Few women could do it even with the stirrup and lever, though. It'll be a 200 pound plus draw or so and even with mechanical advantage and the legs, it'll be hard.
Windlass heavy crossbows with steel arms could have a 1000 pound draw.

It's remarkable that people actually think Crossbows are an 'easier' weapon than a bow; the reason they became more popular than bows was never ease of use - it was raw power

Crossbows are way easier than bows, though. Like comically so. Even using every modern trick available like using wrist trigger releases and compound bows it still makes them far more difficult to operate and aim than a crossbow. If your crossbow is properly sighted and you have taken care of it (waxed the rails and string) it’s almost effortless.

Source: bowhunting for years.

[Oyster Sauce]

Don't forget to update the tags

[Shady]

I'll buy it only if Musa is voiced by Samuel L. Jackson. But he has to do it in Czech version of the voiceover.