No Alphabets 7.1 — Baldur's Gate 3

[Evikdor39]

Yeah he's the earliest voice i did when i was still a voice AI noob. Will have to put him through a voice enhancer.

No problem, I just didn't know if anyone had mentioned it before. It was just jarring because the other ones like Ser Aylin's were unnoticeable that they had been messed with (now just need the breasts on his breastplate{hahah} to be removed ;P ). Thank you again for you work on these mods.

Wait a minute! I already fixed those! Should be regular pecks now

Shoot, he left my party so I can't check again at the moment, but from what I recall it wasn't so much the shape of his armor (like the mesh) as much as it was the design lines on the armor (texture) around the chest looked "booblike".

[orinEsque]

No problem, I just didn't know if anyone had mentioned it before. It was just jarring because the other ones like Ser Aylin's were unnoticeable that they had been messed with (now just need the breasts on his breastplate{hahah} to be removed ;P ). Thank you again for you work on these mods.

Wait a minute! I already fixed those! Should be regular pecks now

Shoot, he left my party so I can't check again at the moment, but from what I recall it wasn't so much the shape of his armor (like the mesh) as much as it was the design lines on the armor (texture) around the chest looked "booblike".

Oh yes it was meant to be booby armor initially, i sort of made it square

[Delacroix]

I REALLY want to diagnose what the problem is. It has happened for at least 4 people. When I try it, it ALWAYS works fine. Can you please send me your save? And a screenshot of what mods your use? (ideally put your mods in a zip file and send me). If you don't wanna show your mods PM me

Also tell me what system you are using, Mac? Windows? Linux?

And... I have since deleted the saves. *facepalm* Now I feel like an idiot. LOL Well, if you have it fixed by the time I get to it again with another character then it's a moot point. If not, I'll have to remember to not delete the save before the encounter, because I did have it saved just before.

Oh, and I have Windows 11 I think.

Yeah well, I can't fix it if I don't know where the problem is and why only some get it and not others.

Registered to do two things.
First, great job at with this mod. I at first had the load order wrong and some awkward dialog leaked through. Fixed that. Finally arrived at the section where you free the Nightsong. Splendid job. Looks and sounds exactly like this was intended.

The second reason is why I am replying to this message. I, too, have a constant crash as soon as we leave the shadowfell when Nightsong is supposed to start flying about the sky.

I also still have the saves, I don't know where to put them for analysis.

I want to add:

I recently installed the no alpa mods downloading from this forum thread original post. I did have to get a version of the mod manager from the github as it would stick on loading otherwise.

I have no other mods but this group of mods running. I am running with directx 11.

I am using windows 10 still.
Relevant game events:
Did not encounter Isobel a all so she is not dead, neither has she been attempted to be kidnapped. I simply did not attempt to talk to her at all.

I had visited moonrise tower but all I did was talk to ketheric and the orc and rescued the prisoners. Not sure any other events have any bearing on what happens in the crashing cutscene.

[orinEsque]

And... I have since deleted the saves. *facepalm* Now I feel like an idiot. LOL Well, if you have it fixed by the time I get to it again with another character then it's a moot point. If not, I'll have to remember to not delete the save before the encounter, because I did have it saved just before.

Oh, and I have Windows 11 I think.

Yeah well, I can't fix it if I don't know where the problem is and why only some get it and not others.

Registered to do two things.
First, great job at with this mod. I at first had the load order wrong and some awkward dialog leaked through. Fixed that. Finally arrived at the section where you free the Nightsong. Splendid job. Looks and sounds exactly like this was intended.

The second reason is why I am replying to this message. I, too, have a constant crash as soon as we leave the shadowfell when Nightsong is supposed to start flying about the sky.

I also still have the saves, I don't know where to put them for analysis.

I want to add:

I recently installed the no alpa mods downloading from this forum thread original post. I did have to get a version of the mod manager from the github as it would stick on loading otherwise.

I have no other mods but this group of mods running. I am running with directx 11.

I am using windows 10 still.
Relevant game events:
Did not encounter Isobel a all so she is not dead, neither has she been attempted to be kidnapped. I simply did not attempt to talk to her at all.

I had visited moonrise tower but all I did was talk to ketheric and the orc and rescued the prisoners. Not sure any other events have any bearing on what happens in the crashing cutscene.

Welcome! and Thanks for the detailed info. You can either upload the file on mediafire or a similar file sharing site and PM me the save. You can also ask @rusty_shackleford for access to the site "Vault" which we use for file sharing.

A few more relevant questions:
What resolution and video settings you play at?
So the transformation scene works, but only the flying off scene crashes?

[Nobere]

The second reason is why I am replying to this message. I, too, have a constant crash as soon as we leave the shadowfell when Nightsong is supposed to start flying about the sky.

I had the same issue, I experimented by setting my graphics to potato mode and I was able to get past the cutscene.
Once the cutscene was over I saved my game and put the graphics back to normal.

A few more relevant questions:
What resolution and video settings you play at?
So the transformation scene works, but only the flying off scene crashes?

I am playing at 1920 x 1080 and I am using the NVIDIA recommended settings.
Everything is on High with Textures, Fog and Clouds set to Ultra.

The transformation is ok, it's when he takes off that my game crashes.

[orinEsque]

The second reason is why I am replying to this message. I, too, have a constant crash as soon as we leave the shadowfell when Nightsong is supposed to start flying about the sky.

I had the same issue, I experimented by setting my graphics to potato mode and I was able to get past the cutscene.
Once the cutscene was over I saved my game and put the graphics back to normal.

A few more relevant questions:
What resolution and video settings you play at?
So the transformation scene works, but only the flying off scene crashes?

I am playing at 1920 x 1080 and I am using the NVIDIA recommended settings.
Everything is on High with Textures, Fog and Clouds set to Ultra.

The transformation is ok, it's when he takes off that my game crashes.

Nope tried fullscreen. I have everything on Ultra as well. I have DLAA on for Anti Alias, and usually have NVIDIA DLSS and AMD FSR off.

[Delacroix]

Welcome! and Thanks for the detailed info. You can either upload the file on mediafire or a similar file sharing site and PM me the save. You can also ask @rusty_shackleford for access to the site "Vault" which we use for file sharing.

A few more relevant questions:
What resolution and video settings you play at?
So the transformation scene works, but only the flying off scene crashes?

I play on an ultrawide (but have also just this morning ran it on a tv with the same result.
Fullscreen. 43:18 ratio. 3440x1440.
Was on triple buffering, changed to double with same results.

In researching this, I also changed my settings to potato settings as the poster above suggested. Same result.

On the tv, I had set to the smallest of every setting in bordered window mode. Same result.

The scene where nightsong is canged into his armor and talks a while works just fine. It is right at the moment the game would switch to us leaving when it crashes with a stack dump stating an access to memory location 0x00000005 occurs.

I've played the game through this scene with this setup before without the mod and it transitions just fine.

You do get to see about a frame of what I think is everyone walking out of the dungeon before it exits to desktop with the crash report. So the flying off, works in the shadowfell. It is the part where nightsong should be flying over the cursed lands where it crashes. Immediately after the dialog with shadowheart fades to black.

Still, though. I'm impressed with the work on nightsong.

[Delacroix]

Welcome! and Thanks for the detailed info. You can either upload the file on mediafire or a similar file sharing site and PM me the save. You can also ask @rusty_shackleford for access to the site "Vault" which we use for file sharing.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/sudqz7vk ... s.zip/file

Try that one. It is 3 quick saves. If I am remembering right (I know just one night asleep and I'm forgetting?)
One should be before we even walk into the nightfell pool.
One is just as we arrive at nightsong.
The last one is in the middle of the conversation as I didn't want to lose a good roll I had.

Maybe something can be revealed from these.

[Delacroix]

I am thinking. I didn't install the bearded Aylin mod yet he has a beard in the video... At least I'm pretty sure I didn't install the bearded version. I don't mind the beard.

[orinEsque]

I am thinking. I didn't install the bearded Aylin mod yet he has a beard in the video... At least I'm pretty sure I didn't install the bearded version. I don't mind the beard.

I'm aware. It's gonna be fixed with the next release. Just in case, check beard mod isn't sitting in your Mods folder. Even if its inactive, it overrides the original mod and adds the beard. It's sneaky like that.

[orinEsque]

I am thinking. I didn't install the bearded Aylin mod yet he has a beard in the video... At least I'm pretty sure I didn't install the bearded version. I don't mind the beard.

Also bad news. I managed to run your save, and I didn't get your problem .

[Delacroix]

I am thinking. I didn't install the bearded Aylin mod yet he has a beard in the video... At least I'm pretty sure I didn't install the bearded version. I don't mind the beard.

Also bad news. I managed to run your save, and I didn't get your problem .

Well I'm out of ideas. Thanks for looking into it.

[orinEsque]

I am thinking. I didn't install the bearded Aylin mod yet he has a beard in the video... At least I'm pretty sure I didn't install the bearded version. I don't mind the beard.

Also bad news. I managed to run your save, and I didn't get your problem .

Well I'm out of ideas. Thanks for looking into it.

Could you check your Mods folder to make sure you don't have double copies of NoAlphabets or something? Perhaps you have old version and new version installed at the same time?

[Delacroix]

Here's what I have. I downloaded right from here to try them out just a few days ago. Forgot I had the dignify ones as well.

I'll start turning things off I guess.

Dignify: Ladies 3.1.0.0
Dignify: Gentlemen 1.0.0.0
Dignify: Astarion (Leather) 1.0.0.0
Dignify: Gale 1.0.0.0
BetterRomance 0.1.0.0
No Alphabets - CCreator (NoGen) 5.1.0.0
NoAlpabetsAesthetics 5.2.0.2
NoAlphabetsLingo 5.2.0.0
NoALphabetsVoice 5.2.0.0 (download says 5.2.0.1 but the mod manager says 5.2.0.0)
No Alphabets - Dialog Tree 1.0.0.0

I have not tried telling GOG (I have the game from good old games) to repair files. Same end result with the crash. I'll now try turning things that aren't mandatory off.

Also, my bad. He has a beard only when in rags before transforming which seems as it is meant to be.

Edit: Disabled all dignify mods. Same result.

Disabled all mods. It worked (except ragged aylin had weird hair).
So, I guess this just doesn't work for some people and it is extremely difficult to tie down.

Another edit:
Enabled only no alphabets. Crashes.

[orinEsque]

Here's what I have. I downloaded right from here to try them out just a few days ago. Forgot I had the dignify ones as well.

I'll start turning things off I guess.

Dignify: Ladies 3.1.0.0
Dignify: Gentlemen 1.0.0.0
Dignify: Astarion (Leather) 1.0.0.0
Dignify: Gale 1.0.0.0
BetterRomance 0.1.0.0
No Alphabets - CCreator (NoGen) 5.1.0.0
NoAlpabetsAesthetics 5.2.0.2
NoAlphabetsLingo 5.2.0.0
NoALphabetsVoice 5.2.0.0 (download says 5.2.0.1 but the mod manager says 5.2.0.0)
No Alphabets - Dialog Tree 1.0.0.0

I have not tried telling GOG (I have the game from good old games) to repair files. Same end result with the crash. I'll now try turning things that aren't mandatory off.

Also, my bad. He has a beard only when in rags before transforming which seems as it is meant to be.

Edit: Disabled all dignify mods. Same result.

Disabled all mods. It worked (except ragged aylin had weird hair).
So, I guess this just doesn't work for some people and it is extremely difficult to tie down.

Another edit:
Enabled only no alphabets. Crashes.

turn on only No Alphabets but without Aesthetics. See if that helps

[Delacroix]

Just peeking at this and the in game mod manager sorts the mods in an apparent different order than that which I export from the BG3 mod manager.

I'll try the suggestion on the aesthetics.

[Delacroix]

turn on only No Alphabets but without Aesthetics. See if that helps

Interesting. Only No alpha ccreator (no gen), Lingo and Voice and the cut scene swap works (though aylin has a male voice on a female body - which I suppose is because of the aesthetics).

Re downloading aesthetics...

LOL nope.

[orinEsque]

turn on only No Alphabets but without Aesthetics. See if that helps

Interesting. Only No alpha ccreator (no gen), Lingo and Voice and the cut scene swap works (though aylin has a male voice on a female body - which I suppose is because of the aesthetics).

Re downloading aesthetics...

LOL nope.

So its just Aesthetics, that gives me an idea of what it could potentially be.

[RhapsodicHotShot]

Wait a minute! I already fixed those! Should be regular pecks now

Shoot, he left my party so I can't check again at the moment, but from what I recall it wasn't so much the shape of his armor (like the mesh) as much as it was the design lines on the armor (texture) around the chest looked "booblike".

Oh yes it was meant to be booby armor initially, i sort of made it square

does this change the armor model? im using a mod that gives me the armor so i want to know if it will affect my own appearance

[Delacroix]

Just noticed a terrible typo in my record of experiments. I NOW told GOG to repair files, not NOT told GOG.

[orinEsque]

Shoot, he left my party so I can't check again at the moment, but from what I recall it wasn't so much the shape of his armor (like the mesh) as much as it was the design lines on the armor (texture) around the chest looked "booblike".

Oh yes it was meant to be booby armor initially, i sort of made it square

does this change the armor model? im using a mod that gives me the armor so i want to know if it will affect my own appearance

The human male armour model only. Which now no longer has boobs. For other gender and races it's unchanged.

[orinEsque]

Just noticed a terrible typo in my record of experiments. I NOW told GOG to repair files, not NOT told GOG.

Try this one, found one "error" which could be the problem.

Before you install it though, go to your Mods folder
%localappdata%\Larian Studios\Baldur's Gate 3\Mods

Delete all instances of the No Alphabets Aesthetics mod. I think I fixed a typo from NoalphabetAesthetics.pak to NoalphabetsAesthetics.pak previously. having both in your mods folder could potentially cause issues.

[Delacroix]

Just noticed a terrible typo in my record of experiments. I NOW told GOG to repair files, not NOT told GOG.

Try this one, found one "error" which could be the problem.

Before you install it though, go to your Mods folder
%localappdata%\Larian Studios\Baldur's Gate 3\Mods

Delete all instances of the No Alphabets Aesthetics mod. I think I fixed a typo from NoalphabetAesthetics.pak to NoalphabetsAesthetics.pak previously. having both in your mods folder could potentially cause issues.

I'll give it a try in a bit. Thanks.

[Delacroix]

Superb! That fixed it. Glorious.
Thank you.

The software developer in me now wonders why it even worked for anyone at all.

It really does seem like Aylin was written as a male but someone at the last minute decided Alyin should be female for "reasons".

[Delacroix]

There is a plaque next to the nightsong prison that says "ascend in her silver blood" is that referring to aylin or shar? Another one on the "ground floor" says "in her blood be annointed: dark justiciar".

[orinEsque]

There is a plaque next to the nightsong prison that says "ascend in her silver blood" is that referring to aylin or shar? Another one on the "ground floor" says "in her blood be annointed: dark justiciar".

I think its a bit ambiguous. Because nightsong is Selune's blood technically. And changing it to he, makes it too explicit and more spoilery.

Superb! That fixed it. Glorious.
Thank you.

The software developer in me now wonders why it even worked for anyone at all.

It really does seem like Aylin was written as a male but someone at the last minute decided Alyin should be female for "reasons".

Basically I had changed Nightsong's Armor from booby to no booby. And there's a separate instance where that armor model needed to be changed under armor "effects". So it was a matter of keeping it consistent. For the life of me I donno why it worked all this time and for some, but not others.

[Nobere]

I figured I would throw this here just in case someone wants to try submitting an "official" mod.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

I figured I would throw this here just in case someone wants to try submitting an "official" mod.

You're a comedian, aren't you?

[arisen]

I've been living under a rock for the past few months, but since when they ******-fied Stelmane?

[orinEsque]

I've been living under a rock for the past few months, but since when they ******-fied Stelmane?

Always unfortunately