Genre doesn't particularly matter but that comes with the caveat that I don't consider visual novels or card "games" to be games either
Here are some examples of what I mean





I'm not gay btw






Even worse, they made him gayVergil wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 05:10Can't believe he's forever locked in a dead franchise and will likely never get another sequel
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90% of the plot of the Soma Cruz games is saving/protecting his girlfriend.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 05:15Even worse, they made him gayVergil wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 05:10Can't believe he's forever locked in a dead franchise and will likely never get another sequel
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That's going to many if not most JRPG protagonists. Problem is that often they are modelled to have samey looking teenager/young 20s boyish anime faces without much definition, so I probably would not bother listing them.















I wouldn't say they are beautiful, more like handsome/attractive.Reichspepe wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 15:23Wolf from Sekiro
Nathan Drake from Uncharted
Chad Commander Shepard from Mass Effect
Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption 2
Will post more later when I've got time.




This one looks potentially interesting. It being locked to the hexbox means emulation will have to be relied on which is always 50/50 but it definitely seems the most in line with what I'm looking for.Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 07:55Kaim from Lost Odyssey has unusually rare definition and a large mouth for a JRPG protagonist.
I actually don't think the models really look too bad honestly (assuming I'm understanding the screenshots right). Looking into it I'm a little confused as to where to start the series but considering I'm not particularly worried about it I might just jump into "Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten" since it's on Steam.Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 07:55Oshtor from Utawarerumono and Monochrome Mobius. Unfortunately, Monochrome Mobius was Aquaplus' first attempt at making a big 3D JRPG (as opposed to the first three SRPG/Visual novel hybrids which had sprites or chibi models for the gameplay sections), and the characters look badly modelled and lit, particularly compared to the earlier musou action game spinoffs, ZAN, which IIRC were outsourced.
I've seen the trails series pop up from time to time in my searches but there's so many it's kind of hard to dig through to figure out what's good or not. Is this character a protagonist from the start of that game or do you unlock him later on?
To be fair I did clarify beautiful and bishonen with examples of the particular aesthetic I was interested in but I appreciate the recommendations nonethelessReichspepe wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 15:50I would still call them that @Finarfin
But I guess it does depend on your own definition a bit. Also, Vergil did mention "attractive".
It can be a little confusing. The first game in the series, Utawarerumono, got remade as Utawarerumono: Prelude to the Fallen. However, it is set in a different country called Tuskur and is about a different cast of characters and protagonist than what the sequel duology and Monochrome Mobius are about, of which Oshtor is the protagonist of and is set in Yamato. Monochrome Mobius is a prequel to Mask of Deception, and is the start of a new storyline that will be continued in an upcoming game and will include Tuskur characters from the first game. The usual recommendation is that you play the series in chronological order starting from Prelude. I think you could play Monochrome Mobius as a standalone game, but it was not a super standout JRPG on its own merits and depends upon your investment in the characters and the setting and the aesthetics. I did preorder Monochrome Mobius and beat it on launch week and gave it a positive review, so I think it was overall worth it.Vergil wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 17:49Looking into it I'm a little confused as to where to start the series but considering I'm not particularly worried about it I might just jump into "Monochrome Mobius: Rights and Wrongs Forgotten" since it's on Steam.
The Trails series is divided into four arcs, each of which is set in a different country.Vergil wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 17:49I've seen the trails series pop up from time to time in my searches but there's so many it's kind of hard to dig through to figure out what's good or not.
Reverie is the first game in the franchise where it rotates between three POV protagonists (as opposed to just following one protagonist for most of the game). He is the third POV you unlock about 10 hours in.Is this character a protagonist from the start of that game or do you unlock him later on?

This.
The aesthetics seem pretty good and I've certainly trudged through worse for less. I did play Persona 2 to completion after allVal the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 18:35I think you could play Monochrome Mobius as a standalone game, but it was not a super standout JRPG on its own merits and depends upon your investment in the characters and the setting and the aesthetics.
I'll keep that in mind then. I guess I can understand the naming convention since they're all in the same universe but it does make it seem brutally complicated and not worth deciphering on first glance so I just kind of ignored them.Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 18:35My opinion is that the Cold Steel games are the best (most interesting setting and aesthetics, best soundtracks, most engaging turn based combat and character building, likeable characters, etc), followed by the Sky games. Crossbell and Daybreak are kinda middling.
I see, so would starting with Reverie be a bad idea without playing the Cold Steel games or would I still be able to at least enjoy them/know what's going on?Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2024, 18:35Reverie is the first game in the franchise where it rotates between three POV protagonists (as opposed to just following one protagonist for most of the game). He is the third POV you unlock about 10 hours in.
You would be able to understand most of what is going on. It is not a part 2 to a game that was cut in half due to Falcom's promise to the shareholders to push one game per year out of the door whether it is ready or not, which has resulted in four Trails games getting pushed out the door unfinished and ending on a cliffhanger that requires a second game to conclude the story. Reverie is a self-contained adventure. However, a lot of the story rides on your investment in the characters who were built up in the prior games. Only three party members in the 3rd POV's group are brand new characters introduced in Reverie, everyone is an old returner with history. You could start at Reverie, but I think you would get more enjoyment from having played the prior Cold Steel games first. If you do play Reverie first, there is a text brief synopsis/recap of the prior games and current geopolitical situation in the main menu, and also read the 7 & 9 short story as that sets up the 3rd POV.Vergil wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 06:41I see, so would starting with Reverie be a bad idea without playing the Cold Steel games or would I still be able to at least enjoy them/know what's going on?
Ys is Falcom's other franchise besides Trails. Used to be their flagship franchise up until Trails of Cold Steel exploded in the mid 2010s and Falcom switched their attention to pushing that as their main thing. Falcom began taking notice from Trails' success, and starting with Ys 8 started pushing the Ys as story heavy games like Trails. The Ys games take place in the same setting but do not have an overarching storyline with subplots running from game to game like with Trails. There is a chronological order in which each game takes place but it really does not matter at all. The first two games (another two parter situation where the first game was unfinished so a second game had to be made to complete the story, the PSP remake on Steam is as a bundle that includes both) features unintuitive "bump" combat where you deal damage to mobs by running into them along their side, like grazing them (if you face them head on they will deal damage to you). They then became traditional action combat for a while but you still play as one character, and then the last few games had multiple different playable party members.Vergil wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2024, 21:10@Val the Moofia Boss do you know anything about the game "Ys X: Nordics" or the franchise in general?
You have any clue how long I waited for this "youtube link" to load?