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Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 06:38
Would unironically do this to however created fume knight
Most of Fume Knight's difficulty rests on his wonky hitboxes that reward defensive playstyles.
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Statesman wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 20:43
Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 06:38
Would unironically do this to however created fume knight
Most of Fume Knight's difficulty rests on his wonky hitboxes that reward defensive playstyles.
I kinda found it the opposite tbh. The constant aggressive meant that turtling would just leave you constantly chipped away unless you went on the attack every opening you got in return.
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Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 21:18
I kinda found it the opposite tbh. The constant aggressive meant that turtling would just leave you constantly chipped away unless you went on the attack every opening you got in return.
I mean, chipping away is what I meant by a defensive playstyle.
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Statesman wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 22:30
Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 21:18
I kinda found it the opposite tbh. The constant aggressive meant that turtling would just leave you constantly chipped away unless you went on the attack every opening you got in return.
I mean, chipping away is what I meant by a defensive playstyle.
Yes and I'm saying that the defensive playstyle of getting chipped away until you die isn't really good.
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Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 22:39
Statesman wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 22:30
Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 21:18
I kinda found it the opposite tbh. The constant aggressive meant that turtling would just leave you constantly chipped away unless you went on the attack every opening you got in return.
I mean, chipping away is what I meant by a defensive playstyle.
Yes and I'm saying that the defensive playstyle of getting chipped away until you die isn't really good.
Let me be clearer, chipping Fume Knight away is what I originally wanted to convey. Turtling isn't.
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Statesman wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 22:56
Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 22:39
Statesman wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 22:30


I mean, chipping away is what I meant by a defensive playstyle.
Yes and I'm saying that the defensive playstyle of getting chipped away until you die isn't really good.
Let me be clearer, chipping Fume Knight away is what I originally wanted to convey. Turtling isn't.
I gotcha, I just wouldn't really call that defensive. To me defensive is spending most of the fight trying to stay away from the boss while popping heals constantly. Fume Knight you have to basically hump his right leg and he punishes any healing 90% of the time.
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Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 06:38
Would unironically do this to however created fume knight
Are you one of those ******* who never levels vigor or something?
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I eventually beat him so idc anymore
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Vergil wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 20:11
Oh the real Moonlight Greatsword is basically unusable with my build cool
Raw Bluemoon Greatsword has no scaling so I don't know what build you're using. It's easy to respec:
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Dead wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:25
Raw Bluemoon Greatsword has no scaling so I don't know what build you're using.
It's a build for cool chads with big muscles who **** a lot of hot girls so I understand why you're not familiar.
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Also if I respec should I infuse the MLGS or no?
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Vergil wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:29
Also if I respec should I infuse the MLGS or no?
Depends on the build you want. Magic +5 gives you an S scaling in intelligence with high base magic damage, so this would be a good choice if you plan to make an int character.
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Dead wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:34
Vergil wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:29
Also if I respec should I infuse the MLGS or no?
Depends on the build you want. Magic +5 gives you an S scaling in intelligence with high base magic damage, so this would be a good choice if you plan to make an int character.
I just want to hit things with a cool sword I have no intention on doing anything magic related before respeccing I had 50 strength lol

Oof that moveset isn't great
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Vergil wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:37
Dead wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:34
Vergil wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:29
Also if I respec should I infuse the MLGS or no?
Depends on the build you want. Magic +5 gives you an S scaling in intelligence with high base magic damage, so this would be a good choice if you plan to make an int character.
I just want to hit things with a cool sword I have no intention on doing anything magic related before respeccing I had 50 strength lol

Oof that moveset isn't great
MLGS requires high int to deal high damage at reasonable levels.
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Dead wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:46
Vergil wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:37
Dead wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2024, 07:34

Depends on the build you want. Magic +5 gives you an S scaling in intelligence with high base magic damage, so this would be a good choice if you plan to make an int character.
I just want to hit things with a cool sword I have no intention on doing anything magic related before respeccing I had 50 strength lol

Oof that moveset isn't great
MLGS requires high int to deal high damage at reasonable levels.
Yea I respec'd to have 60 INT and magic infused it. Does breddy good damage.
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Burnt Ivory King fight is probably the biggest disappointment I've had so far. The fight has an amazing set up and arena but the ******** gank fest you have to go through each time and the fact you need to backtrack through the entire map again to find extra knights just sound exhausting to me. I don't know if I'm gonna manage literally zero of that sounds fun or interesting to me.
At least Fume Knight just had a bonfire right by the boss arena and was a 1v1. The charred loyce knights utterly ruin this fight.
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What do you mean by 'backtrack'? Did you explore the whole map, but somehow missed all of the knights?
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wndrbr wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2024, 06:02
What do you mean by 'backtrack'? Did you explore the whole map, but somehow missed all of the knights?
You can't get all of the knights until you get the queen to remove the ice and you can't get to that point until you've explored most of Eleum Loyce anyway to get the item to be able to see Aava.
I just don't care for having to do this gay little scavenger hunt.
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You've been bitching for days about the various things in the game. Why are you even playing this and not some anime game where you play as a bishonen twink? You sound like Roguey. "Ah the game forces me to explore the level, i don't care about doing that!" You wanted to just walk in and defeat the boss?
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wndrbr wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2024, 06:19
You've been bitching for days about the various things in the game.
Yea people tend to discuss video games on a video game discussion forum.
wndrbr wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2024, 06:19
Why are you even playing this
Because I like most of it and want to get the cool ending.
wndrbr wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2024, 06:19
and not some anime game where you play as a bishonen twink?
I'm also playing FF7 Remake in between bouts of Dark Souls II
wndrbr wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2024, 06:19
You sound like Roguey. "Ah the game forces me to explore the level, i don't care about doing that!"
I'm going to assume this is some sort of slavic orc brain malfunction because I just got done saying how I already explored most of the map and don't feel like backtracking through an area I've already been through.
wndrbr wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2024, 06:19
You wanted to just walk in and defeat the boss?
I wanted the boss battle to be a battle where I fight the boss yea
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Fact: Dark Souls 2 has the best Mix & Match fashion in the Souls series.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I personally blame a lot of DS2's bad rep on a colossal amount of ****** game "critics" who relentlessly slammed the game in bad faith. If you want to see the absurdity of what I mean domo3000 has some good videos breaking down just how disingenuous those reviews were. This game managed to make mauler seethe so bad he made a roughly 10 hour long video series crying about it.
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W1llus wrote: ↑ December 13th, 2024, 20:46
I'm glad this thread exists. I personally blame a lot of DS2's bad rep on a colossal amount of ****** game "critics" who relentlessly slammed the game in bad faith. If you want to see the absurdity of what I mean domo3000 has some good videos breaking down just how disingenuous those reviews were. This game managed to make mauler seethe so bad he made a roughly 10 hour long video series crying about it.
I like matthewmatosis but his video on Dark Souls II utterly poisoned the well for all future Dark Souls II discourse forever.
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