Dark Souls II: The Pinnacle of a Franchise

[Vergil]

Forgot there was a beret in this game

[Tinky Winky]

dork souls was never about the bosses, the game could have no bosses and it would be mostly unchanged

Wrong, it would be better.

Unironically this.

[Vergil]

dork souls was never about the bosses, the game could have no bosses and it would be mostly unchanged

Wrong, it would be better.

Unironically this.

In an ideal world there would still BE bosses conceptually but the entire raison d'être behind a lot of them is faulty. They're not meant to be interesting and unique set pieces first and foremost. They're not even really mean to be tests of the skills you've learned along the way. They start with the premise of needing to be difficult and then work backwards in most cases. There's nothing interesting or engaging about that.

[wndrbr]

They're not meant to be interesting and unique set pieces first and foremost.

you mean the opposite

[Vergil]

They're not meant to be interesting and unique set pieces first and foremost.

you mean the opposite

I mean what I stated. What exactly is interesting or unique about half the bosses being giant guy who swings a sword with iffy tracking that lets him ice skate to lock onto you?
Not that it's always that bad. Lies of P made me realize just how spoiled I truly was. So far only the Pursuer has given me any problems and once I adapted to him I haven't lost to a boss yet.

[wndrbr]

Sorry, I misread your post. i thought you meant to say "bosses used to be designed as unique set pieces, but now they are just difficult for the sake of being difficult", and just worded incorrectly.

[Vergil]

Sorry, I misread your post. i thought you meant to say "bosses used to be designed as unique set pieces, but now they are just difficult for the sake of being difficult", and just worded incorrectly.

Brother, I forgive you.

[Vergil]

Iron Keep ******* sucks

[Vergil]

What the ****

[Statesman]

I still stand by DSII having the most wasted potential, DS1 being the most coherent experience, DeS being the prototype, DS3 feeling like a glorified DS1 DLC and Elden Ring being quantity over quality: the game.

DSII is definetely the ugliest Fromsouls game though. Too bad Stayd's Flames of Old mod was never finished...

[Vergil]

Imagine seeing Majula and saying it's the ugliest game.

[Oyster Sauce]

Imagine seeing Majula and saying it's the ugliest game.

ah, the enchanted brown & bloom isles of majula... a wondrous sight to be sure

[Vergil]

Imagine seeing Majula and saying it's the ugliest game.

ah, the enchanted brown & bloom isles of majula... a wondrous sight to be sure

The Canadian soul is oriented against beauty

[Oyster Sauce]

Imagine seeing Majula and saying it's the ugliest game.

ah, the enchanted brown & bloom isles of majula... a wondrous sight to be sure

The Canadian soul is oriented against beauty

Huh? I'm agreeing with you!

[wndrbr]

I still stand by DSII having the most wasted potential, DS1 being the most coherent experience, DeS being the prototype, DS3 feeling like a glorified DS1 DLC and Elden Ring being quantity over quality: the game.

DSII is definetely the ugliest Fromsouls game though. Too bad Stayd's Flames of Old mod was never finished...

DeS isn't just some prototype, it's a great game. It's also a lot more of a 'coherent experience' than DS1, which has blatantly unfinished parts like Izalith.

[Vergil]

Dark Souls II haters calling it unfinished after fighting 10 copy paste Taurus demons and reskinned dragon legs in the demon ruins

[Statesman]

I still stand by DSII having the most wasted potential, DS1 being the most coherent experience, DeS being the prototype, DS3 feeling like a glorified DS1 DLC and Elden Ring being quantity over quality: the game.

DSII is definetely the ugliest Fromsouls game though. Too bad Stayd's Flames of Old mod was never finished...

DeS isn't just some prototype, it's a great game. It's also a lot more of a 'coherent experience' than DS1, which has blatantly unfinished parts like Izalith.

On its own, sure it is a great game but it is still the baseline from which the rest of the franchise developed...and was arguably even more blatantly unfinished than DS1 (see the Broken Archstone/Northern Limit, the disjointed "teleport to map" excuse for the hub), several archstones being just a boss arena, etc). To be fair, nearly all Fromsoft games (outside maybe Sekiro) are a mess in that regard.

[Vergil]

ah, the enchanted brown & bloom isles of majula... a wondrous sight to be sure

The Canadian soul is oriented against beauty

Huh? I'm agreeing with you!

When Trump annexes Canada we're gonna roleplay Fallout. I'm Nate, guess who you're gonna be?

[Oyster Sauce]

The Canadian soul is oriented against beauty

Huh? I'm agreeing with you!

When Trump annexes Canada we're gonna roleplay Fallout. I'm Nate, guess who you're gonna be?

There are a lot of possible answers here..

[Vergil]

Huh? I'm agreeing with you!

When Trump annexes Canada we're gonna roleplay Fallout. I'm Nate, guess who you're gonna be?

There are a lot of possible answers here..

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_( ... New_Vegas)

[Oyster Sauce]

When Trump annexes Canada we're gonna roleplay Fallout. I'm Nate, guess who you're gonna be?

There are a lot of possible answers here..

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_( ... New_Vegas)

"As a slave, it seems Jimmy was forced to have sex with women, likely to maintain breeding quotas."

Why didn't the Legion guys just have sex with the women...?

[Vergil]

There are a lot of possible answers here..

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_( ... New_Vegas)

"As a slave, it seems Jimmy was forced to have sex with women, likely to maintain breeding quotas."

Why didn't the Legion guys just have sex with the women...?

They're groypers

[ArcaneLurker]

There are a lot of possible answers here..

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_( ... New_Vegas)

"As a slave, it seems Jimmy was forced to have sex with women, likely to maintain breeding quotas."

Why didn't the Legion guys just have sex with the women...?

[Tangerine]

There are a lot of possible answers here..

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_( ... New_Vegas)

"As a slave, it seems Jimmy was forced to have sex with women, likely to maintain breeding quotas."

Why didn't the Legion guys just have sex with the women...?

The breeding bit is speculation from the article writer. More likely Jimmy's ****** centurion owner was a power bottom and any penetration reminded him of that.

[Vergil]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_( ... New_Vegas)

"As a slave, it seems Jimmy was forced to have sex with women, likely to maintain breeding quotas."

Why didn't the Legion guys just have sex with the women...?

The breeding bit is speculation from the article writer. More likely Jimmy's ****** centurion owner was a power bottom and any penetration reminded him of that.

Only 6 posts and one of them is about power bottoming. Sovl

[wndrbr]

I still stand by DSII having the most wasted potential, DS1 being the most coherent experience, DeS being the prototype, DS3 feeling like a glorified DS1 DLC and Elden Ring being quantity over quality: the game.

DSII is definetely the ugliest Fromsouls game though. Too bad Stayd's Flames of Old mod was never finished...

DeS isn't just some prototype, it's a great game. It's also a lot more of a 'coherent experience' than DS1, which has blatantly unfinished parts like Izalith.

On its own, sure it is a great game but it is still the baseline from which the rest of the franchise developed...and was arguably even more blatantly unfinished than DS1 (see the Broken Archstone/Northern Limit, the disjointed "teleport to map" excuse for the hub), several archstones being just a boss arena, etc). To be fair, nearly all Fromsoft games (outside maybe Sekiro) are a mess in that regard.

yeah but at least DeS is not forcing us to play through empty unfinished levels while fighting copy-pasted capra demons. That makes the game feel coherent and consistent.

[Vergil]

More like caca demons because that part of the game is ****

[Oyster Sauce]

fighting old bosses as regular enemies is objectively very cool

[wndrbr]

it wouldve been cool if they designed a proper encounter instead of just putting them on a flat terrain right in front of you

[Vergil]

fighting old bosses as regular enemies is objectively very cool

Like @wndrbr said I like the concept of taurus demons being a regular enemy type in the demon ruins but the location and placement is a problem. There's nothing wrong with the demon ruins being full of demons they had to come from somewhere. But just having them sort of spammed around flat terrain like a gmod map is really underwhelming.