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It's just an emulator.
"oh waow it plays my original cartridges!"
You mean those things that begin failing after 15-20 years?
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Hehe let me tell you kids about a little hidden gem called Perfect Dark. You wouldn't know about it.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 14th, 2024, 01:49
It's just an emulator.
"oh waow it plays my original cartridges!"
You mean those things that begin failing after 15-20 years?
If you must have the OG hardware experience then buy an overpriced flashcart to stick in your crumbly, nintendonum SNES to play on your laggy, flatscreen TV.
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I dont even play Warframe anymore but I check its forums from time to time. Found a gem today.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/14231 ... oodbye-wf/

Basically DE banned the guy for saying "loli" which DE considered a hate speech. Its possible that hes not telling the whole story but its what it is nevertheless.
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Already gone. That was fast.

Not that this instance is particularly important, but it does make me want to remind everyone to archive everything. Copy paste text here, vault images, use archive.is, etc.
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@wndrbr the russians are doing it again, tell putin
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Is this one of those "successors" of Dickso Elysium that people were so hyped about after the original studio imploded?
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logincrash wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:32
Is this one of those "successors" of Dickso Elysium that people were so hyped about after the original studio imploded?
Yes. Yes it is.
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Consider the following:
At the end of a long game you find out everything has just been a dream in the main character's head who wakes up.
How does this change your opinion on what happened?
Does the adventure now feel like it was less meaningful? If so, why?
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:34
logincrash wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:32
Is this one of those "successors" of Dickso Elysium that people were so hyped about after the original studio imploded?
Yes. Yes it is.
Looks pretty gay. Especially the quirky lower framerate animation.
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The only good thing about it is the music. They have such a great composer (yes I know).
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:36
Consider the following:
At the end of a long game you find out everything has just been a dream in the main character's head who wakes up.
How does this change your opinion on what happened?
Does the adventure now feel like it was less meaningful? If so, why?
Nope, works for me just fine and this also made Link's Awakening particularly devastating.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:52
The only good thing about it is the music. They have such a great composer (yes I know).
Who’s the composer?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:36
Consider the following:
At the end of a long game you find out everything has just been a dream in the main character's head who wakes up.
How does this change your opinion on what happened?
Does the adventure now feel like it was less meaningful? If so, why?
I have dreams about playing videogames in real life, I don't need a videogame to muscle in on that market with a fake dream.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:36
Consider the following:
At the end of a long game you find out everything has just been a dream in the main character's head who wakes up.
How does this change your opinion on what happened?
Does the adventure now feel like it was less meaningful? If so, why?
I think that depends if the main character of the story remembers the dream or not. If the dream taught a valuable lesson and the hero just forgets it then that would be pretty lame.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: November 14th, 2024, 16:01
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:52
The only good thing about it is the music. They have such a great composer (yes I know).
Who’s the composer?
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Do they really replicate n64 FPGA and all hardware?

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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:36
Consider the following:
At the end of a long game you find out everything has just been a dream in the main character's head who wakes up.
How does this change your opinion on what happened?
Does the adventure now feel like it was less meaningful? If so, why?
It depends. Especially in a story-focused game, the sense of reality is important to me. I don't mean that it must be realistic; I mean that the world must be treated as though it truly and uniquely exists. Examples of things that ruin this: breaking the fourth wall, infinite or near-infinite multiverses, massive incongruity between setting elements (21st century Californian dialogue in medieval fantasy, etc). Thus:
  • If the story turned out to be a dream with zero consequences in the "real" game world, I would be angry that my efforts had been rendered meaningless and consider it a cheap gotcha.
  • If the story were a dream, but this was already known or hinted at, and it was shown or implied to have some significant effect on the "real" game world, I could potentially accept it.
  • If the story interleaved dreaming and waking parts that mutually influenced one another, I would have no problem with it.
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The old game Second Sight kinda does this twist but in an interesting way.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 14th, 2024, 15:36
Consider the following:
At the end of a long game you find out everything has just been a dream in the main character's head who wakes up.
How does this change your opinion on what happened?
Does the adventure now feel like it was less meaningful? If so, why?
Haven't seen this too much in games.

But a horror movie trope that became way overused for a while was the Jacob's Ladder "everything was the protagonist's dying delusion" ending, which would **** me off to no end. It's sort of a fine twist the first time you see it. But it quickly becomes predictable and loses all impact. I can remember telling my wife five minutes into movies: "****, it's another one of those, the main character is dead or dying. Goddamit. ****." Then when the so-called twist is about to come: "****, they're about to ******* do it. They better ******* not." And then of course they do. The worst ones though are the ones that disguise it, create some seeming mystery and intrigue around various subplots, and then the answer is that they were all red herrings explained by the fact that it's all in the character's head, meaning any further explanation or internal consistency is unnecessary.

Back to the main question though--yes this will, in 95-99% of cases, diminish the game to varying degrees. The only rare cases it works at all is with extreme artistic talent, or as a framing device with the climax happening in the real world after the character wakes up.
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You can tell how retarddd japs are just by looking at their language. It is abysmally poor and as a result they have a fuckload of foreign words in it which they 'japanise'.

Apex Legends characters often say 'Shields recharging'. In jap version it sounds like 'Shirudo rechajichu'. In jap language R is very soft and basically undistinguishable from L.
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I'm telling aweigh about you.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 15th, 2024, 12:28
You can tell how retarddd japs are just by looking at their language. It is abysmally poor and as a result they have a fuckload of foreign words in it which they 'japanise'.

Apex Legends characters often say 'Shields recharging'. In jap version it sounds like 'Shirudo rechajichu'. In jap language R is very soft and basically undistinguishable from L.
Better than the ******.
They make up "new" words for things, but it's always one of five intonations of "wah!" or "dong!" or something.

I don't know what's stupider. Their tonal exclamation speaking language (where the same phrase can mean five completely different things) or their ridiculously elaborate non phonetic word heiroglyphs.
I take that last part back. Hieroglyphs evolved into phonetic spelling 3000 years ago, so the comparison is unfavorable to the ******.
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Im not sure about chinese variant. I havent heard it, the google translate gave me this:
盾牌充电 or in pinyin
dùn pái chōng diàn
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 15th, 2024, 12:28
You can tell how retarddd japs are just by looking at their language. It is abysmally poor and as a result they have a fuckload of foreign words in it which they 'japanise'.
This is not a result of linguistic necessity. Japs just like English; to them it sounds exotic and cool, which is perfect for both fantasy and science fiction. This was true even before they became a vassal state of the US. There was a brief attempt to excise it during WWII, during which the government called it 敵性語 enemy language, but it didn't really go anywhere. Now the tendency to import English loanwords has only accelerated thanks to mandatory English classes in schools and US hegemony.

All that said, there is a bit of nuance to how some of these words are used compared to native words according to the Japanese with whom I've discussed this. For example, regarding this:
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 15th, 2024, 12:28
Apex Legends characters often say 'Shields recharging'. In jap version it sounds like 'Shirudo rechajichu'.
To the Japanese mind, the native word for shield, tate, is concrete, unabstracted: if you say tate, you're almost certainly talking about a shield of the physical sort that one carries, most likely of the medieval variety. On the other hand, シールド shi-rudo sounds abstract, conceptual: perfect for something like an energy field that blocks incoming attacks like a shield without being a shield in the conventional sense. There's no defending リチャージ richa-ji, though. They just think it sounds cool.
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Maybe you are right. Im not a linguist and I speak from my personal experience. I dont know any other language that has 3 alphabets. Jap language has exactly that. 1 for japanes words, 1 for foreign words and another is based on chinese glyphs. The fact that their country was isolated and stubbornly rssisted anything foreign up until like 19th century adds to the problem. And then they were occupied by yankees.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 15th, 2024, 17:59
Maybe you are right. Im not a linguist and I speak from my personal experience. I dont know any other language that has 3 alphabets. Jap language has exactly that. 1 for japanes words, 1 for foreign words and another is based on chinese glyphs.
カタカナ Katakana wasn't made for the purpose of transliterating foreign words. That's one of its modern uses, but, in the past, it was actually used the way ひらがな hiragana is today: to write native words phonetically. The real difference between the two is that ひらがな hiragana developed organically from writing kanji lazily, while scholars created カタカナ katakana deliberately by taking small pieces of whole kanji. That's why ひらがな hiragana is loopy and curvy while カタカナ katakana has lots of straight lines. Also, it bears noting that the Latin alphabet used today is also really two different scripts: lower case and upper case. How similar do E and e look? A and a? B and b? It seems that having two different ways of writing phonetic characters is actually pretty normal.

Now, you could argue that Japanese was linguistically deficient before the introduction of kanji since, prior to this, they didn't have a written language. However, even many European languages did not receive a written form until quite late in world history, and, when they did, it was in a borrowed alphabet.
Yankee Zulu wrote: November 15th, 2024, 17:59
The fact that their country was isolated and stubbornly rssisted anything foreign up until like 19th century adds to the problem. And then they were occupied by yankees.
They weren't always isolationist. Much of Japanese culture was imported from China and Korea and then adapted to suit the Japanese. For example, the early Japanese brought Korean smiths to Japan and gave them noble ranks in exchange for their knowledge of metalworking. That's really been the great strength of the Japanese: the ability to take something foreign, make it their own, and then improve upon it (Engrish notwithstanding).
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 15th, 2024, 12:28
Apex Legends characters often say 'Shields recharging'. In jap version it sounds like 'Shirudo rechajichu'. In jap language R is very soft and basically undistinguishable from L.
But this is one of their more endearing traits. Everyone loves when they say clearly an english word in an extremely thick funny accent.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 15th, 2024, 17:59
Maybe you are right. Im not a linguist and I speak from my personal experience. I dont know any other language that has 3 alphabets. Jap language has exactly that. 1 for japanes words, 1 for foreign words and another is based on chinese glyphs. The fact that their country was isolated and stubbornly rssisted anything foreign up until like 19th century adds to the problem. And then they were occupied by yankees.
He's just a weeb, you can push back on his weeb-argument
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