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Wow. Just wow.
Isn't he too old for reading literally every comment's with criticism on twitter and banning people for it?
Pathetic.

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BLofbr wrote: November 1st, 2024, 08:37
lmao its actually in positive now
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They will most likely shillview it 'till it hits at least 80% and use it as "proof" to convince the goblins to buy. I wonder if it's part of the "advertisement" budget.
Even with damage control, that ships' gonna sink
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The writing is really underwhelming. The "We Wuz Elves" ******** with every god being a super powerful elf is getting annoying. Even without all the modern pronouns and politics ****, the characters just don't sound right. Speaking of sounding right, the voice acting is a bit stilted, even for a Dragon Age game.
This game also reminded me of how much I hate the magitech concept i.e. "this magic is so advanced that it looks like alien technology." That's so ******* tired and gay. Minrathous has a loudspeaker PA system, holograms everywhere, and a helicopter spotlight. It looks more like the Guild Wars 2 dwarf elephants' architecture with it's purple magic cubes and force fields than it does like the magic Ancient Rome it's supposed to look like.
Combat is a bit frustrating. It doesn't feel like Dragon Age at all. All the stupid particle effects and **** flying everywhere makes it impossible too see anything. The HP feedback is terrible. The combination of both made me lose sight of my character and lose huge chunks of health without even seeing what the **** was it that hit me.
I literally got a headache from the 30-45 minutes that I played so far.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: November 1st, 2024, 13:15
Nemesis wrote: November 1st, 2024, 13:03
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: November 1st, 2024, 12:58
User reviews were slightly higher then expected but not by much.
Unemployed shills are out in full force.
I’m genuinely shock it isn’t getting lower user reviews. The writing level is dustborn levels of overt politically charged propaganda. But I guess people are so desensitized to progressivism In media that’s it barely worth mentioning which is ******* horrifying.
Wasn't it around 45-50% when it released? Seems really odd how quickly it shot up
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buttfucker 3000 wrote: November 1st, 2024, 14:22
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: November 1st, 2024, 13:15
Nemesis wrote: November 1st, 2024, 13:03

Unemployed shills are out in full force.
I’m genuinely shock it isn’t getting lower user reviews. The writing level is dustborn levels of overt politically charged propaganda. But I guess people are so desensitized to progressivism In media that’s it barely worth mentioning which is ******* horrifying.
Wasn't it around 45-50% when it released? Seems really odd how quickly it shot up
It was. Especially weird since general online discourse has been mixed at best so it reaching overall positive user reviews is very suspect.
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A good metric for what the numbers should be for a brand new Dragon Age release.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 1st, 2024, 08:36
Steam reviews are very, very rarely deleted. I think some developers have abused it before and had swift action taken against them by valve.
I find that hard to believe.
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About half of /v/ is threads about how bad this game is and obvious shill threads pushing it. I find it plausible that it's getting a higher than expected review score simply because there's enough awareness of how bad it is for most people to avoid buying it in the first place.
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>whole company ****** out
>one normal man: "It'll probably be fine..."

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WhiteShark wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:07
About half of /v/ is threads about how bad this game is and obvious shill threads pushing it. I find it plausible that it's getting a higher than expected review score simply because there's enough awareness of how bad it is for most people to avoid buying it in the first place.
Not that is is an accurate means to evaluate, but there are many in the steam forums claiming that there are some odd things happening to the stream reviews. Things like, so called "purging" of the "review bombing" reviews, but leaving in the obvious reviews that are obvious shill bombs. Also, many are noticing review numbers, where in a very short amount of time, the reviews double in number and all seem to be "positive" reviews that have bumped the game from the 50's up close to the 80 mark. Someone also mentioned numerous reviews that say "not recommended" in the text, yet somehow have a thumbs up. Also comments about bad reviews being pushed down, hidden, etc... unless you click down through to search for them.

With the level of manipulation of the jurnos, the obvious tactics of censoring (steam forum for the game is doing mass purges at ridiculous levels) in many gamer channels, I don't think it is so far fetched that steam numbers are being manipulated. Steam isn't a "on the level" company, so this idea that they would fight for the integrity of the system is a bit... reaching, especially with the inconsistencies concerning this game.

Something isn't right on the numbers, especially when you compare it to other releases.
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Jordy wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:07
>whole company ****** out
>one normal man: "It'll probably be fine..."

he likes taking his time getting to the point doesnt he
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Element wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:29
Jordy wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:07
>whole company ****** out
>one normal man: "It'll probably be fine..."

he likes taking his time getting to the point doesnt he
I find that to be par for the course on YouTube. Annoying as hell.
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Jordy wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:07
>whole company ****** out
>one normal man: "It'll probably be fine..."

The way he portrays the bioware culture makes me think this is indeed true, bioware has long been a cult and this is sort of well known for those who know more about the industry.

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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:33
Jordy wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:07
>whole company ****** out
>one normal man: "It'll probably be fine..."

The way he portrays the bioware culture makes me think this is indeed true, bioware has long been a cult and this is sort of well known for those who know more about the industry.

https://danluu.com/bioware/
Seems to be consistent with what I have seen in a lot of other industries as well. This cancer is everywhere and yes, it wreaks havoc on the productivity of the business.
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Xenich wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:17
Steam isn't a "on the level" company, so this idea that they would fight for the integrity of the system is a bit... reaching, especially with the inconsistencies concerning this game.
I mean, unless BIoWare/EA have someone sympathetic on the inside, why would Valve give a flying **** about the success of Veilguard?

I fully buy that EA is gaming the system within the confines of what Steam allows them to do, but I think it's a bit of a reach to assume Valve is in cahoots with EA to ensure this piece of **** game doesn't completely crater into the ground.
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Trickster wrote: November 1st, 2024, 13:42
Wow. Just wow.
Isn't he too old for reading literally every comment's with criticism on twitter and banning people for it?
Pathetic.

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Afaik, he is using a script that auto-bans people subscribed to specific users/channels/whatever, like if you are a friend of an already banned user, you will be auto-banned.

Was like this years ago.
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Blocking people is gay.
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PixiGreen wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:48
Afaik, he is using a script that auto-bans people subscribed to specific users/channels/whatever, like if you are a friend of an already banned user, you will be auto-banned.
Oh, how delightful, people who are so easily offended by the slightest divergence from their expected behavior, who can't handle a bit of curiosity and divergent thought! They generalize and ban with such enthusiasm, all while preaching about ethics and correctness. How ironic that they fail to embrace basic human kindness and open-mindedness, don't you think?
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gerey wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:44
Xenich wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:17
Steam isn't a "on the level" company, so this idea that they would fight for the integrity of the system is a bit... reaching, especially with the inconsistencies concerning this game.
I mean, unless BIoWare/EA have someone sympathetic on the inside, why would Valve give a flying **** about the success of Veilguard?

I fully buy that EA is gaming the system within the confines of what Steam allows them to do, but I think it's a bit of a reach to assume Valve is in cahoots with EA to ensure this piece of **** game doesn't completely crater into the ground.
Sympathetic alliance, yes.. I do think there are people on the inside that help with "the message" at times. I have seen it in other companies where some political thing is happening in some other area of industry and these people take it upon themselves to "aid the cause" so to speak. It may not be policy, it may not even be known on any official level, it could just be random people "doing their part" to help them.

I have noticed some odd antics between some steam forum games as well where the only logical reason a person would be banned between them was because one moderator was "in the know" about a post in another forum. That may not be steam related, but it does represent some sort of "interaction" between companies/moderators.
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Trickster wrote: November 1st, 2024, 16:00
PixiGreen wrote: November 1st, 2024, 15:48
Afaik, he is using a script that auto-bans people subscribed to specific users/channels/whatever, like if you are a friend of an already banned user, you will be auto-banned.
Oh, how delightful, people who are so easily offended by the slightest divergence from their expected behavior, who can't handle a bit of curiosity and divergent thought! They generalize and ban with such enthusiasm, all while preaching about ethics and correctness. How ironic that they fail to embrace basic human kindness and open-mindedness, don't you think?
They are a dangerous lot. They convince themselves of their "superior position" that they justify any action, regardless of how heinous it is as being "just" because they are the "good guys". These are the types who will murder innocents and reason that it was necessary because somehow by not doing so, they would eventually be the victim by the hands of the ones they are eliminating. You can see this type of behavior in how they converse with each other. Simply disagreeing with them is apparently evidence that you are "going to get them killed" (literally seen ****** make this argument due to complaints about woke content).

Very dangerous people.
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I have been doing some random browsing of the reviews.

It seems some of the comments by forum posters about manipulation may be true, well... at least in their claims of certain things.

For instance:
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Note the thumbs up, but the review says "not recommended".

Yes, could be a mistake... at least there is legitimacy in the comment.

I also noticed some of the negative reviews are being hidden based on the "steam review policy" which honestly, is subjective and I think this is being used as a means to dismiss negative reviews.

One negative review had 1.2 hours played, the review comment was simply "gay" and the product refunded.

Is this a review bomb or just someone making an honest point about it? The game definitely is "gay", literally. So the opinion while less than polite, is a common reference by the culture to refer to something that sucks, even if they didn't mean it literally.

I haven't deep dived it, but there may be a lot of reviews that are using subjectivity in "offense" through the rules (much like they do in banning in the forums) as a means to downplay the negative reviews.

I wonder how many reviews in other games are still up that reference the game being bad as "gay", yet were never removed?

Point is, they are desperate here and I think they are using any and all means to proclaim a victory.

Needs more research though.
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Xenich wrote: November 1st, 2024, 16:46
Note the thumbs up, but the review says "not recommended".
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They're playing it to own the chuds despite hating it
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 1st, 2024, 16:49
Xenich wrote: November 1st, 2024, 16:46
Note the thumbs up, but the review says "not recommended".
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They're playing it to own the chuds despite hating it
Maybe, I also noticed a consistent absence in the negative reviews of comments concerning the absolutely horrible wokeness of the game.

I mean, there are a couple, but you would think there would be more "unsuspecting" people who walked in and went " WTF"?

I think any heavy comment that deals with the woke aspect is likely to be flagged as "offensive" and so eliminated as "review bombing", at least that is my thought. There really should be more people commenting on that as it is extremely obvious on that front.

While most who were concerned about woke would already be avoiding this, there has to be more than what is listed.

I still think something isn't on the level here.
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Xenich wrote: November 1st, 2024, 16:56
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 1st, 2024, 16:49
Xenich wrote: November 1st, 2024, 16:46
Note the thumbs up, but the review says "not recommended".
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They're playing it to own the chuds despite hating it
Maybe, I also noticed a consistent absence in the negative reviews of comments concerning the absolutely horrible wokeness of the game.

I mean, there are a couple, but you would think there would be more "unsuspecting" people who walked in and went " WTF"?

I think any heavy comment that deals with the woke aspect is likely to be flagged as "offensive" and so eliminated as "review bombing", at least that is my thought. There really should be more people commenting on that as it is extremely obvious on that front.

While most who were concerned about woke would already be avoiding this, there has to be more than what is listed.

I still think something isn't on the level here.
I think it's the same thing that happened to that suicide squad game. It had good reviews because normal people just weren't buying it.
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Review score won't go down until the game is 80% off and people mostly uninterested in it try it
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You know how Dragon Age 2, Inquisition, and Mass Effect Andromeda mapped the dialogue wheel to keys 1-6 clockwise? You know how one of the advantages of doing so allowed you to develop muscle memory to the point that you could choose a dialogue option just by pressing the corresponding button?
Well, **** you. This game assigns the ******* buttons at random. So, now that you're used to pressing 3 to choose the bottom right option, pressing 3 can choose literally any option at any time.
JUST LOOK AT THIS ****
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logincrash wrote: November 1st, 2024, 17:05
You know how Dragon Age 2, Inquisition, and Mass Effect Andromeda mapped the dialogue wheel to keys 1-6 clockwise? You know how one of the advantages of doing so allowed you to develop muscle memory to the point that you could choose a dialogue option just by pressing the corresponding button?
Well, **** you. This game assigns the ******* buttons at random. So, now that you're used to pressing 3 to choose the bottom right option, pressing 3 can choose literally any option at any time.
JUST LOOK AT THIS ****
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Lmao at the bottom left. What lunacy.
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MrTwinkls wrote: November 1st, 2024, 12:33
Question for people who decided to suffer through this. What is the most evil thing (by lefties standarts) one could do in this gaym?
Apparently, criticize it.
Followed by not exclaiming love for its alphabetry.
Followed by not paying money for it.

In the game? They've deliberately disallowed "bad" choices. Your only allowed responses are simply what tone of full support you give the game writers and director's plot and ideology.
You may as well not bother replying to my posts if it's to argue anything except concrete facts or your personal opinion. I still probably won't see it.
Reject your retarded-wing political programming and learn to think.
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wake up
do nothing
new quarter of a billion dollar wokeslop game made specifically to spite you for existing released
don't play their game
game flops
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win again
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Rand wrote: November 1st, 2024, 17:27
MrTwinkls wrote: November 1st, 2024, 12:33
Question for people who decided to suffer through this. What is the most evil thing (by lefties standarts) one could do in this gaym?
Apparently, criticize it.
Followed by not exclaiming love for its alphabetry.
Followed by not paying money for it.

In the game? They've deliberately disallowed "bad" choices. Your only allowed responses are simply what tone of full support you give the game writers and director's plot and ideology.
At that point there's really 0 reason for a dialogue wheel or any multiple choice system at all since the player has no agency and it's basically just a linear-story game.