Dragon Age™: The Veilguard is a Return To Form

[rusty_shackleford]

borderlands 4 has more wishlists than veilguard
https://steamdb.info/stats/mostwished/

[Rand]

Blackrock allows them to keep doing it long after the lack of profits should have corrected the market.
Also, look into who owns the media companies that hire queerdos to shill this degenerate filth like being a mentally ill ***** is normnal.
Is it a grand centralized conspiracy? No.
But it IS a conspiracy.

[rusty_shackleford]

Blackrock allows them to keep doing it long after the lack of profits should have corrected the market.

no, I'm pretty sure it's the billions of dollars of revenue they get from their sports games.

[Rand]

Blackrock allows them to keep doing it long after the lack of profits should have corrected the market.

no, I'm pretty sure it's the billions of dollars of revenue they get from their sports games.

For EA sports, maybe. But you don't seem to understand that they can't just shuffle money around between divisions willy-nilly because they don't want to get nailed for taxes and liabilities and stuff.
There's a legal shenanigans reason why Bioware is still a distinct legal entity.

[rusty_shackleford]

Blackrock allows them to keep doing it long after the lack of profits should have corrected the market.

no, I'm pretty sure it's the billions of dollars of revenue they get from their sports games.

For EA sports, maybe. But you don't seem to understand that they can't just shuffle money around between divisions willy-nilly because they don't want to get nailed for taxes and liabilities and stuff.
There's a legal shenanigans reason why Bioware is still a distinct legal entity.

Bioware exists because the Bioware brand had value.
Had.

It's the same reason there used to be a bunch of Bioware studios completely unrelated to Bioware.

To understand how powerful a brand is, look at how many people equating current bioware with the people who made Origins, for example. There's maybe 10-15 people still left from that time period at best.

[Luckmann]

No, I think the problem is that they do "market research". They are just being fed bad data by manipulative marketing departments.

It's more likely that they are fully aware of the demographics that play their games, but chose to ignore them in favor of sucking Fink's circumcised **** ****.

There are people like that, for sure, and there are forces at play that have been actively pushing for the subversion of the market for a very long time, but I think the vast majority of people are simply abused and taken advantage of. At the end of the day, the industry is full of people that just want to make good games, but have people dripping poison into their ears, both in terms of what is profitable and what is socially correct.

I also think that there's a sizeable portion of them that are frustrated by the fact that they know who their audience is and they know what makes for a good game, but they need to conform in order to eat, and the paychecks are signed by clueless executives that are entirely surrounded by numbers fed to them by Blackrock and Blackrock-like entities.

Mass Effect 3 was released in 2012 and it had gay **** in it. Have Vanguard/BlackRock started their ESG scam up by then?

"Blackrock made them do it!" is some giga-cope, we have them on record saying they did it despite their own publishers not wanting them to do it. They'd go on hunger strikes if EA asked them to tone down the faggotry at this point.

You're not wrong, but pretending that these people and companies exists in a vacuum is either ignorant or deeply dishonest. The ESG entities aren't holding a blade to the neck of every single person, but that's because they don't have to. It's about directing the market and its internal discourse, not immediate monetary force.

Also, trusting Gaider 2024 regarding the motivations for actions taken in the 1990's is ridiculous. I'm willing to bet that if you asked any one of them back in 1996 about ******** they'd pan what passes for the modern retardation of today, and then crack a joke about *******. These people drape their entire lives in lies, and would gladly skew the truth to own le heckin chuds if it resulted in even a single shred of extra social credit.

[gerey]

What makes you think EA needs loans?

https://www.ea.com/commitments

and look at that.

Mass Effect 3 was released in 2012 and it had gay **** in it. Have Vanguard/BlackRock started their ESG scam up by then?

BlackRock has been around since 1988.

we have them on record saying they did it despite their own publishers not wanting them to do it

So why did the companies tolerate it then, and positively embrace it now, despite every metric they have showing that it hurts their profits?

inb4 "it's because the devs are woke" - they can fire the woke devs and hire ones that won't make woke slop.

[rusty_shackleford]

Also, trusting Gaider 2024 regarding the motivations for actions taken in the 1990's is ridiculous. I'm willing to bet that if you asked any one of them back in 1996 about ******** they'd pan what passes for the modern retardation of today, and then crack a joke about *******. These people drape their entire lives in lies, and would gladly skew the truth to own le heckin chuds if it resulted in even a single shred of extra social credit.

He was referring to Dragon Age 2, which is definitely where I'd place the "homosexual companions are mainstream in RPGs now" flag. I distinctly remember the B^U comic about Anders.

[rusty_shackleford]

inb4 "it's because the devs are woke" - they can fire the woke devs and hire ones that won't make woke slop.

Have you tried firing an employee in a western country lately by chance?
It's probably easier and costs less to spin a developer off into its own studio and let it fail than actually try to fire people.

[Rand]

Don't forget about the fake "ESG/DIE is good for profits" studies lies.
Who promoted them? Who paid for them?
I very much doubt any of it was organic.
That **** was shoveled into boardrooms and executive suites, into the minds of business ******* that have proven they don't know a good game (or movie, show, or book) from a turd.

[rusty_shackleford]

He was referring to Dragon Age 2, which is definitely where I'd place the "homosexual companions are mainstream in RPGs now" flag. I distinctly remember the B^U comic about Anders.

this single image is probably responsible for the chain of events that led to veilguard existing

[Manny V]

*******

[Luckmann]

no, I'm pretty sure it's the billions of dollars of revenue they get from their sports games.

For EA sports, maybe. But you don't seem to understand that they can't just shuffle money around between divisions willy-nilly because they don't want to get nailed for taxes and liabilities and stuff.
There's a legal shenanigans reason why Bioware is still a distinct legal entity.

Bioware exists because the Bioware brand had value.
Had.

It's the same reason there used to be a bunch of Bioware studios completely unrelated to Bioware.

To understand how powerful a brand is, look at how many people equating current bioware with the people who made Origins, for example. There's maybe 10-15 people still left from that time period at best.

This is 100% right. It's not about shuffling money around between divisions - they could do that with ghost divisions and shell corporations - it's that they are just brands to these corporations, and that's all they are. The second they think that they can no longer use it to sell product, they'll either sell the brand to someone that thinks they can use it (this happened to 3D Realms, for example) or simply retire it (this happened to.. many).

The second a company is "acquired", it is important to realize that it's dead. Blizzard is dead. Bioware is dead. Westwood is dead. They're just skinsuits, and some of them have been for decades. They are just brands worn by corporate ghouls. No more, no less, and people that hinge their hopes on things like "But [COMPANY] used to be good! Maybe they will be good again!" are completely delusional.

This is also true for inXile and Obsidian and Bethesda now, by the way, being owned by Microsoft; whatever life is left in them is strictly vestigial - they are brands, now, nothing more. The people within them will be cycled out over time, but they will be subject to restructuring, same as all the others, sooner or later, and that's that.

Edit: And yes, this makes me sad.

[Luckmann]

Also, trusting Gaider 2024 regarding the motivations for actions taken in the 1990's is ridiculous. I'm willing to bet that if you asked any one of them back in 1996 about ******** they'd pan what passes for the modern retardation of today, and then crack a joke about *******. These people drape their entire lives in lies, and would gladly skew the truth to own le heckin chuds if it resulted in even a single shred of extra social credit.

He was referring to Dragon Age 2, which is definitely where I'd place the "homosexual companions are mainstream in RPGs now" flag. I distinctly remember the B^U comic about Anders.

Oh, yeah, if he was referring to Dragon Age 2, then yeah, I call ******** twice as hard, because I cannot see EA going "Nooooo, don't put **** in the game, noooooo!" at that point. I find the very suggestion utterly preposterous.

[logincrash]

He was referring to Dragon Age 2, which is definitely where I'd place the "homosexual companions are mainstream in RPGs now" flag. I distinctly remember the B^U comic about Anders.

this single image is probably responsible for the chain of events that led to veilguard existing

>you don't want to earn any rivalry points here
Ironically, 100% Rivalry Anders has a better character arc than a 100% Friendship Anders.
I guess the lesson here is "Always be rude to *******."

[wndrbr]

He was referring to Dragon Age 2, which is definitely where I'd place the "homosexual companions are mainstream in RPGs now" flag. I distinctly remember the B^U comic about Anders.

this single image is probably responsible for the chain of events that led to veilguard existing

>you don't want to earn any rivalry points here
Ironically, 100% Rivalry Anders has a better character arc than a 100% Friendship Anders.
I guess the lesson here is "Always be rude to *******."

did you beat that game twice???

[Luckmann]

He was referring to Dragon Age 2, which is definitely where I'd place the "homosexual companions are mainstream in RPGs now" flag. I distinctly remember the B^U comic about Anders.

this single image is probably responsible for the chain of events that led to veilguard existing

>you don't want to earn any rivalry points here
Ironically, 100% Rivalry Anders has a better character arc than a 100% Friendship Anders.
I guess the lesson here is "Always be rude to *******."

I am still mad for what they did to Anders. He's a perfectly OK character in Awakening.
It is remarkable what a **** game Dragon Age 2 was, and I have never forgiven the promises betrayed.

[gerey]

Have you tried firing an employee in a western country lately by chance?

This year alone, so far, they've fired 10,000+ gamedevs.

Also, managment has the final say on what goes into a product, who gets to write the plot, approve the art etc. To pretend these corporations are held hostage by a hostile, radicalized workforce is a complete joke.

There's only two possible motives why companies push the woke:

1. The C-level, board and shareholders are true believers in the woke ideology (if so, why and how did this come to pass?)
2. They make their money some other way (as in, they are making games for BlackRock, not the gaming audience)

[rusty_shackleford]

things I remember from DA2:

Enemies are spawned in the air and fall from the ceiling mid-fight

Anders is absolutely nothing like Awakening

[rusty_shackleford]

This year alone, so far, they've fired 10,000+ gamedevs.

And how many of these are related to a subsidiary studio shutting down?

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

It's more likely that they are fully aware of the demographics that play their games, but chose to ignore them in favor of sucking Fink's circumcised **** ****.

They ignore them because they don't care and publishers/executives let them get away with it. We have it on record in this very thread with gayder gloating that EA let them get away with that **** despite them knowing it would impact sales negatively and/or not be for their target audience.

The only sliver lining in the impending recession/stagflation ( (possibly depression) is that big publishers, investments and government grants won’t be able to afford to fund to such activism ,so game studios are actually forced to make games that people actually want to play.

[Luckmann]

inb4 "it's because the devs are woke" - they can fire the woke devs and hire ones that won't make woke slop.

Have you tried firing an employee in a western country lately by chance?
It's probably easier and costs less to spin a developer off into its own studio and let it fail than actually try to fire people.

On a corporate level, it is still remarkably easy to get rid of people. While I do agree with many worker protection laws, the issues with their implementations in much of the western world today primarily hurt small-to-mid companies (which of course favors the large corporations). All a large corporation needs to do is a "restructuring" and then fire people based on "financial issues", such as spinning everyone they want to get rid off into their own studio, underfund it, and then dissolve it, and then they just take the losses as a tax write-off.

There's a reason why Firewalk Studios (of Concord fame) was axed entirely. They can then go through the pieces and re-hire anyone that they actually want to keep and shuffle them around to other studios and projects.

[logincrash]

did you beat that game twice???

I lost count of how many times I beat it but I know that it's at least 6. One time for every class+gender combo.
So I can confidently say that every romancible companion is better when you have 100% Rivalry with them.

[Luckmann]

It's more likely that they are fully aware of the demographics that play their games, but chose to ignore them in favor of sucking Fink's circumcised **** ****.

They ignore them because they don't care and publishers/executives let them get away with it. We have it on record in this very thread with gayder gloating that EA let them get away with that **** despite them knowing it would impact sales negatively and/or not be for their target audience.

The only sliver lining in the impending recession/stagflation ( (possibly depression) is that big publishers, investments and government grants won’t be able to afford to fund to such activism ,so game studios are actually forced to make games that people actually want to play.

Governments have infinite pockets; the more bloated, the bigger pockets. And nothing is so bloated as corrupt as the EU. We're talking about entities that actively import hundreds of thousands of parasites and rapists, all at the suffering of their would-be constituents, just to benefit the banking cartel and private corporations and their desire for endless growth, natural exploitation, and the subjugation of all goyim.

Don't worry, the funding will continue until morale improves.

[Luckmann]

did you beat that game twice???

I lost count of how many times I beat it but I know that it's at least 6. One time for every class+gender combo.
So I can confidently say that every romancible companion is better when you have 100% Rivalry with them.

There is no reaction button for this one, I am forced to respond.

[RangerBoo]

Mass Effect 3 was released in 2012 and it had gay **** in it. Have Vanguard/BlackRock started their ESG scam up by then?

"Blackrock made them do it!" is some giga-cope, we have them on record saying they did it despite their own publishers not wanting them to do it. They'd go on hunger strikes if EA asked them to tone down the faggotry at this point.

Indeed. EA and Ubisoft are what I consider Patient Zero for the woke ideology in games. It is not surprising that both Kim Belair and Anita Sarkeesian got their starts in both Ubisoft and Bioware. Bioware has always been made up of what people would call "True Believers". Back then it was somewhat bearable, mainly because the pendulum was leaning towards the Left. Now with the ****** and feminist **** and the pendulum swinging back to the Right people have lost patience and have reach the peak of their tolerance.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

They ignore them because they don't care and publishers/executives let them get away with it. We have it on record in this very thread with gayder gloating that EA let them get away with that **** despite them knowing it would impact sales negatively and/or not be for their target audience.

The only sliver lining in the impending recession/stagflation ( (possibly depression) is that big publishers, investments and government grants won’t be able to afford to fund to such activism ,so game studios are actually forced to make games that people actually want to play.

Governments have infinite pockets; the more bloated, the bigger pockets. And nothing is so bloated as corrupt as the EU. We're talking about entities that actively import hundreds of thousands of parasites and rapists, all at the suffering of their would-be constituents, just to benefit the banking cartel and private corporations and their desire for endless growth, natural exploitation, and the subjugation of all goyim.

Don't worry, the funding will continue until morale improves.

The laws of economics will always win in the end no matter how much market manipulation or printing money by the government.

[Rand]

This year alone, so far, they've fired 10,000+ gamedevs.

Correction. 10 000+ workers from game development companies.
Few of whom actually worked directly on making game assets, especially code.
HR and PR departments were decimated, though.

[Luckmann]

The laws of economics

Good joke.

[Rand]

So I can confidently say that every romancible companion is better when you have 100% Rivalry with them.

Why?