Warhammer 40,000 Thread

[maidenhaver]

Blood Angels are the best og chapter.

[Finarfin]

Blood Angels are the best og chapter.

I bought this Ultramarine mini.

And removed the helmet and part of his arm, and instead have him a arm that holds a cup and used glue to make it look like blood is flowing out of it on the ground (I was fairly new to it, I mean I still am, so I kinda stopped painting the guy, but I do want to continue, and my minis most likely will arrive this week. This is also a reply to @twig saying that me buying minis is supporting gw trooning the franchise. I didn't buy them directly from them, I bought them from a reseller that bought them from another reseller. My money goes to the reseller and I do not plan to buy any official ones anymore but I have no idea where to get "inofficial" ones, so if you guys know any sites, best if they are EU or even German ones, I would appreciate it.

[Finarfin]

Found a picture of my mini. No idea why I did the whole transparent and remove background for but here it is:


and these are the minis of my brother:


He is obviously better at this.

[maidenhaver]

Yeah, I only buy used and bad paint jobs. I'll be home next week and part of the next, and start then.

[Finarfin]

Yeah, I only buy used and bad paint jobs. I'll be home next week and part of the next, and start then.

Oh, so you buy prepainted minis and then strip em? ****, that's a good idea. I might have to look for that kind of stuff too.

[maidenhaver]

I buy lots and paint on those for practice. My lead and white metal are for when I get good.

[Finarfin]

Hmm, can't seem to find any on ebay, and I don't know any other sites to buy used stuff in bulk or at all.

[Finarfin]

I also got myself some STLs. The Leviathan box marines, Heavy Intercessors, Sanguinary Guard, Death Company and just for fun a big Titus mini.

[Ratcatcher]

I only got an Ogryn to level 50. Is it worth just deleting characters and starting over?

Nah, why would you delete it? You can respec at any time a-là Vermintide. You simply have all builds already unlocked. Now, farming for some decent items, on the other hand...

edit: The crafting update will mainly affect end-game stuff. If you like team shooters/VT and/or want to play smth following 40K themes, you can definitely jump in well before the crafting stuff is released. Personally, I'd hunt for a cheap key.

[Vergil]

Have they considered making something Warhammer related that's not really lame and ugly looking? No disrespect.

[Finarfin]

I actually found my Captain Titus mini that I kitbashed

[Reichspepe]

For anyone interested, this is a must watch I'd say.

[Zothique]

For anyone interested, this is a must watch I'd say.

Usually things like this just end up being faggy for everyone b/c it will encourage lefties to **** their pants and screech more. They're already pushing the "more ********, more *******" **** into the IP already. Next thing you know, they are going to be asking GW to put assless chaps on the Ultramarines for semi-realistic pegging via Sisters of Battle + broomstick rape dice roll mechanics.

God, I wish someone would come and just shoot me in the ******* head with a sawed-off.

[Luckmann]

What's a good introduction into 40K lore?

that's a good question, I was going to ask that too. I am quite out of the loop unfortunately.

The original Rogue Trader book.

Not joking.

[rusty_shackleford]

This is a misinterpretation of how fascist interact with media.

You could make every single book unambiguously Imperium-bad and it wouldn't matter, because fascism is highly about aesthetics.

The fact that the Imperium is "justified" is still a form of parody, daemon books might be a thing in the 40k universe but they aren't in ours, we are supposed to cringe at the similarities because whatever ""excuses"" the Imperium might have simply don't exist here. There are no Chaos Gods. It highlight how we are entirely responsible to our own shortcomings.

This, like any sort of nuance, parody or heavy handed message you could put into lore will, inevitably, always, fly over fascist, because they simply don't interact with books that way. If they even actually do read the books which a lot of them don't.

These are the people will look at Wolfenstein clean nazi streets and thing "is this really supposed to be a dystopia"? They simply do not engage with media like you and I.

"But then just make the Imperium look less cool"

Then you'd alienating even the normal Imperium players like me, and the fascists would still just keep using their own version of the Imperium and call it a day, like they do with every other IP. You cannot just canibalize the hobby and expected them to go away.

"The only solution is making the Imperium fall" the Roman Empire fell, look how that has been working out. It doesn't work. You're not thinking on how making the Imperium less appealing for fascists, you're thinking on how to make the Imperium less appealing for people like you, which already is (at least morally).

You solve fascism in warhammer by solving fascism in society, by educating people so that more of them engage with the themes of the books more than aesthetics.

[rusty_shackleford]

Why do so many people insist that the Imperium of man is anti-LGBT and sexist?
The amount of times I’ve seen these claims is too much to count.

There are so many claims that the imperium bans homosexuality and being transgender because it “feeds Slaanesh”.

They also claim any sex without the purpose of procreation “feeds Slaanesh”.

I recently ran into a person that claimed “the only people that mattered in the old days of the imperium were men”. And that “logically the imperium should be sexist, with just men in the guard and in high positions”.

There’s multiple high ranking women in the imperium, and multiple examples of members of the LGBT not only being accepted, but also high ranking in the imperium.

But the answer I get when I say there are LGBT inquisitors, is either “high ranking people get to break rules” or “inquisitors are crazy”. So I guess being LGBT = crazy to these people.

And of course they can never find an actual source for any of their claims. They’re just bigots to be bigots. I even ran into a person insisting I “read the old lore” and still wouldn’t provide a source. He said it was “always implied” the imperium hated the LGBT from the start.

The amount of actual bigotry in this fandom, especially from imperium of man fans, is insane.

[A Chinese opium den]

jean stealer cult

[UltraFan123]

Why do so many people insist that the Imperium of man is anti-LGBT and sexist?
The amount of times I’ve seen these claims is too much to count.

Because it doesn't places that stuff front-and-center in order to celebrate it all the time so that the real-life freaks can feel validated like other "modern" IPs do.

[Reichspepe]

ranking women in the imperium, and multiple examples of members of the LGBT not only being accepted, but also high ranking in the imperium.

But the answer I get when I say there are LGBT inquisitors

Can you give examples? And how recent are those?

[rusty_shackleford]

ranking women in the imperium, and multiple examples of members of the LGBT not only being accepted, but also high ranking in the imperium.

But the answer I get when I say there are LGBT inquisitors

Can you give examples? And how recent are those?

I was just posting redditor posts because I thought they were funny

[Reichspepe]

ranking women in the imperium, and multiple examples of members of the LGBT not only being accepted, but also high ranking in the imperium.

But the answer I get when I say there are LGBT inquisitors

Can you give examples? And how recent are those?

I was just posting redditor posts because I thought they were funny

You got me with that , I was sitting here thinking what the **** is Rusty writing, am I somehow ******** and don't get was he's saying, did I misjudge him, was his account hacked?

[Irenaeus]

This is a misinterpretation of how fascist interact with media.

You could make every single book unambiguously Imperium-bad and it wouldn't matter, because fascism is highly about aesthetics.

The fact that the Imperium is "justified" is still a form of parody, daemon books might be a thing in the 40k universe but they aren't in ours, we are supposed to cringe at the similarities because whatever ""excuses"" the Imperium might have simply don't exist here. There are no Chaos Gods. It highlight how we are entirely responsible to our own shortcomings.

This, like any sort of nuance, parody or heavy handed message you could put into lore will, inevitably, always, fly over fascist, because they simply don't interact with books that way. If they even actually do read the books which a lot of them don't.

These are the people will look at Wolfenstein clean nazi streets and thing "is this really supposed to be a dystopia"? They simply do not engage with media like you and I.

"But then just make the Imperium look less cool"

Then you'd alienating even the normal Imperium players like me, and the fascists would still just keep using their own version of the Imperium and call it a day, like they do with every other IP. You cannot just canibalize the hobby and expected them to go away.

"The only solution is making the Imperium fall" the Roman Empire fell, look how that has been working out. It doesn't work. You're not thinking on how making the Imperium less appealing for fascists, you're thinking on how to make the Imperium less appealing for people like you, which already is (at least morally).

You solve fascism in warhammer by solving fascism in society, by educating people so that more of them engage with the themes of the books more than aesthetics.

One day we will bury Mussolini's atheist legacy.

[Irenaeus]

There’s multiple high ranking women in the imperium,

I think this is a retcon, I have a fifth or sixth edition corebook from like 2015 and the only women mentioned are the Sisters of Battle and they occupy one page as another sidekick faction on a 400 page book.

Edit: Rusty posting reddit posts without context got me good

[UltraFan123]

I feel this is relevant to all fantasy and sci-fi settings, not only Warhammer.

Games Workshop used to be perfectly capable of creating figurines that clearly depicted both masculine and feminine body shapes, but as of recent years they are purposely making female figures more masculine and uglifying their faces.

One of the "reasonings" for the recent shift is apparently that "there should indeed be female models, but these should be indistinguishable from standard male models", and to that I can only try and resist the destruction of my neurons. Like if someone wants ALL models to look the same then WHY MAKE FEMALE MODELS IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

[rusty_shackleford]

I feel this is relevant to all fantasy and sci-fi settings, not only Warhammer.

Games Workshop used to be perfectly capable of creating figurines that clearly depicted both masculine and feminine body shapes, but as of recent years they are purposely making female figures more masculine and uglifying their faces.

One of the "reasonings" for the recent shift is apparently that "there should indeed be female models, but these should be indistinguishable from standard male models", and to that I can only try and resist the destruction of my neurons. Like if someone wants ALL models to look the same then WHY MAKE FEMALE MODELS IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

"boob armor" would definitely exist if women were in combat… because it's being made right now. ukrainian women tried using male body armor and it was causing significant chafing of their breasts.
https://euro-sd.com/2024/02/articles/36 ... our-story/

the idea of "boob armor" being nonsense is something pushed by people who, ironically, don't have boobs.

[Brother Michael]

I feel this is relevant to all fantasy and sci-fi settings, not only Warhammer.

Games Workshop used to be perfectly capable of creating figurines that clearly depicted both masculine and feminine body shapes, but as of recent years they are purposely making female figures more masculine and uglifying their faces.

One of the "reasonings" for the recent shift is apparently that "there should indeed be female models, but these should be indistinguishable from standard male models", and to that I can only try and resist the destruction of my neurons. Like if someone wants ALL models to look the same then WHY MAKE FEMALE MODELS IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

"boob armor" would definitely exist if women were in combat… because it's being made right now. ukrainian women tried using male body armor and it was causing significant chafing of their breasts.
https://euro-sd.com/2024/02/articles/36 ... our-story/

the idea of "boob armor" being nonsense is something pushed by people who, ironically, don't have boobs.

Depends what kind of armor we’re talking about, because medieval breastplates aren’t flat. They’re rounded to deflect blows. As far as I know, modern body armor uses flat plates for some reason.

[Orvas Dren]

I feel this is relevant to all fantasy and sci-fi settings, not only Warhammer.

Games Workshop used to be perfectly capable of creating figurines that clearly depicted both masculine and feminine body shapes, but as of recent years they are purposely making female figures more masculine and uglifying their faces.

One of the "reasonings" for the recent shift is apparently that "there should indeed be female models, but these should be indistinguishable from standard male models", and to that I can only try and resist the destruction of my neurons. Like if someone wants ALL models to look the same then WHY MAKE FEMALE MODELS IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

"boob armor" would definitely exist if women were in combat… because it's being made right now. ukrainian women tried using male body armor and it was causing significant chafing of their breasts.
https://euro-sd.com/2024/02/articles/36 ... our-story/

the idea of "boob armor" being nonsense is something pushed by people who, ironically, don't have boobs.

Depends what kind of armor we’re talking about, because medieval breastplates aren’t flat. They’re rounded to deflect blows. As far as I know, modern body armor uses flat plates for some reason.

soulless

[rusty_shackleford]

I think one of the reasons WH40k is so popular is that despite them worshiping a material entity, they actually get much closer to depicting religion as it exists than some nerd interpretation of polytheistic pantheons. All the conflicting interpretations, conflicting ways of worship, unending sects/"cults" many of which are considered entirely valid as long as they maintain the core tenets of the faith, things attributed to him that he may or may not be responsible for, etc.,

typical fantasy faith is something like "I call upon mightygod the mighty god of war to make me strong and win this battle!"

[UltraFan123]

I think one of the reasons WH40k is so popular is that despite them worshiping a material entity, they actually get much closer to depicting religion as it exists than some nerd interpretation of polytheistic pantheons. All the conflicting interpretations, conflicting ways of worship, unending sects/"cults" many of which are considered entirely valid as long as they maintain the core tenets of the faith, things attributed to him that he may or may not be responsible for, etc.,

typical fantasy faith is something like "I call upon mightygod the mighty god of war to make me strong and win this battle!"

On top of that, the typical fantasy faithful is surprisingly quite tolerant of things and individuals that go against his core tenets, both the guy and the God he worships sometimes being a little too lax.

I remember an event in Pathfinder: Kingmaker when your goblin companion erected massive statues of none other than the in-story Goddess of Savagery right in front of your capital's gates, and no matter what companion you bring with you, nobody objects to you if you decide to keep the statues, nor attempts to punish the goblin who created such hideousnees. Not even the good-aligned cleric who never lost his deity's grace despite the evil **** he did.

A Warhammer 40k faithful would've slaughtered the goblin immediately, not when said creature erected the statues but back when they first met. lol

[logincrash]

IRL Bolter