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rusty_shackleford wrote: September 20th, 2024, 13:16
UltraFan123 wrote: September 20th, 2024, 13:12
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 20th, 2024, 12:57


I didn’t see anything in the game to suggest that she was subtly gay
It was revealed by Owlcat during a reddit AMA a few years ago that Linzi being gay was so subtle that almost nobody noticed despite more than one playthrough.

The Owlcat dev wrote and I quote:

"I learned that when you write something subtle, most of the readers will ignore it. In fact, even when you write something not-too-subtly, but less then five times, most readers will ignore it. HOWEVER, if you don't write something, and not even have it in mind when you're working, some of the readers will read it between the lines and surprise you with unexpected interpretations."

Then a redditor responded with:

"Tl;dr, I learned that Linzi is a lesbian (and no one else did)."

And then the dev responded:

"Well, a couple LGBT streamers did get the clue!"

Here's the original convo from reddit if anyone wants to read the other comments blabbing about "yeh inclusivity!"

how do I report russians to the russian government for writing lgbt propaganda

That’s probably why they fleed to Cyprus.

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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 20th, 2024, 16:46
rusty_shackleford wrote: September 20th, 2024, 13:16
UltraFan123 wrote: September 20th, 2024, 13:12


It was revealed by Owlcat during a reddit AMA a few years ago that Linzi being gay was so subtle that almost nobody noticed despite more than one playthrough.

The Owlcat dev wrote and I quote:

"I learned that when you write something subtle, most of the readers will ignore it. In fact, even when you write something not-too-subtly, but less then five times, most readers will ignore it. HOWEVER, if you don't write something, and not even have it in mind when you're working, some of the readers will read it between the lines and surprise you with unexpected interpretations."

Then a redditor responded with:

"Tl;dr, I learned that Linzi is a lesbian (and no one else did)."

And then the dev responded:

"Well, a couple LGBT streamers did get the clue!"

Here's the original convo from reddit if anyone wants to read the other comments blabbing about "yeh inclusivity!"

how do I report russians to the russian government for writing lgbt propaganda

That’s probably why they fleed to Cyprus.

(they did not, in fact, flee to cyprus)

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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 16:48
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 16:46
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 13:16


how do I report russians to the russian government for writing lgbt propaganda

That’s probably why they fleed to Cyprus.
(they did not, in fact, flee to cyprus)

I’m bit confused it said official they are now located cyprus with there previous being Russia. Did something change?
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 16:51
I’m bit confused it said official they are now located cyprus with there previous being Russia. Did something change?
Google "Irodi Attikou, 8A, Lakatamia, 2332, Nicosia, Cyprus" and see how many developers you can find located in the same apartment complex. :D
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UltraFan123 wrote: September 20th, 2024, 13:12
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 20th, 2024, 12:57
UltraFan123 wrote: September 20th, 2024, 12:45


Yeah that's pretty much most of it, tho I would also add that the bard halfling companion is subtly gay as well, tho very few actually notice.
I didn’t see anything in the game to suggest that she was subtly gay
It was revealed by Owlcat during a reddit AMA a few years ago that Linzi being gay was so subtle that almost nobody noticed despite more than one playthrough.

The Owlcat dev wrote and I quote:

"I learned that when you write something subtle, most of the readers will ignore it. In fact, even when you write something not-too-subtly, but less then five times, most readers will ignore it. HOWEVER, if you don't write something, and not even have it in mind when you're working, some of the readers will read it between the lines and surprise you with unexpected interpretations."

Then a redditor responded with:

"Tl;dr, I learned that Linzi is a lesbian (and no one else did)."

And then the dev responded:

"Well, a couple LGBT streamers did get the clue!"

Here's the original convo from reddit if anyone wants to read the other comments blabbing about "yeh inclusivity!"

If you need to tell someone that a character is gay, then it is exactly like Chekhov's Gun, except there is no gun.
It is a theoretical trait that is utterly irrelevant because it has no effect on the story. Therefore it literally doesn't exist. It is a null proposition.

Also, the fact that some alphabet freaks "suspected" that a character is gay means nothing.
These narcissistic delusionals regularly decide to think every character is gay or whatever because that's the only lens they can bear to see the world through, distorted and ugly though it is.

You may as well not bother replying to my posts if it's to argue anything except concrete facts or your personal opinion. I still probably won't see it.
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Rand wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:06
These narcissistic delusionals regularly decide to think every character is gay or whatever because that's the only lens they can bear to see the world through, distorted and ugly though it is.
Legit, it's almost the only thing that they talk about in the Owlcat discord server which is as infected with the woke mindvirus as you can imagine.

It's always either "assume everyone is bisexual until shown/said otherwise" or "if this character isn't romanceable, then he/she must be aro-ace" when discussing games. I wish I was joking.
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I hesitate to even inquire as to what this gibberish means...
You may as well not bother replying to my posts if it's to argue anything except concrete facts or your personal opinion. I still probably won't see it.
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Rand wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:23
I hesitate to even inquire as to what this gibberish means...
Supposedly is a mix of "aromantic" and "asexual". I had to look that up the first time I saw it. lol

And I also had to Google the meaning of these merged words as well on top of that; "aromantic" apparently means someone who doesn't feel romantic attraction to anyone but can still feel horny, while "asexual" is meant to be the opposite as someone who can feel romantic affection but can't get horny for whatever reason.

If you ask me, it's indeed quite narcissistic to assume that if someone doesn't want to do depraved immoral stuff with you, then the only possible explanation must be that this someone is "incapable of feeling love".
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 16:55
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 16:51
I’m bit confused it said official they are now located cyprus with there previous being Russia. Did something change?
Google "Irodi Attikou, 8A, Lakatamia, 2332, Nicosia, Cyprus" and see how many developers you can find located in the same apartment complex. :D
Holy **** just looked it up.Why would Owlcat lied about their location? I guess it due to the sanctions and war with Russia & Ukraine.
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:20
Rand wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:06
These narcissistic delusionals regularly decide to think every character is gay or whatever because that's the only lens they can bear to see the world through, distorted and ugly though it is.
Legit, it's almost the only thing that they talk about in the Owlcat discord server which is as infected with the woke mindvirus as you can imagine.

It's always either "assume everyone is bisexual until shown/said otherwise" or "if this character isn't romanceable, then he/she must be aro-ace" when discussing games. I wish I was joking.

Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:27
UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:20
Rand wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:06
These narcissistic delusionals regularly decide to think every character is gay or whatever because that's the only lens they can bear to see the world through, distorted and ugly though it is.
Legit, it's almost the only thing that they talk about in the Owlcat discord server which is as infected with the woke mindvirus as you can imagine.

It's always either "assume everyone is bisexual until shown/said otherwise" or "if this character isn't romanceable, then he/she must be aro-ace" when discussing games. I wish I was joking.

Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
Morbid curiosity maybe. Funniest thing is, even 3D Realms discord servers are woke as hell, going so far as to ban everyone who spoke against the censorship in Ion Maiden.
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Kronus wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:36
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:27
UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:20


Legit, it's almost the only thing that they talk about in the Owlcat discord server which is as infected with the woke mindvirus as you can imagine.

It's always either "assume everyone is bisexual until shown/said otherwise" or "if this character isn't romanceable, then he/she must be aro-ace" when discussing games. I wish I was joking.

Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
Morbid curiosity maybe. Funniest thing is, even 3D Realms discord servers are woke as hell, going so far as to ban everyone who spoke against the censorship in Ion Maiden.
Fair enough . I sometimes go on the unofficial pathfinder Owlcat Reddit where they make updates and annoyingly make announcements for other non related pathfinder content.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:27
UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:20
Rand wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:06
These narcissistic delusionals regularly decide to think every character is gay or whatever because that's the only lens they can bear to see the world through, distorted and ugly though it is.
Legit, it's almost the only thing that they talk about in the Owlcat discord server which is as infected with the woke mindvirus as you can imagine.

It's always either "assume everyone is bisexual until shown/said otherwise" or "if this character isn't romanceable, then he/she must be aro-ace" when discussing games. I wish I was joking.

Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
I first joined discord back in late 2018 when Owlcat only had Kingmaker released and WotR was just announced to be in development, I remember the conversations to be what you would normally see in your average RPG forums, and speaking about real-life geopolitics was discouraged.

Slowly and surely, however, as the years went by the people online began to get angrier and incredibly hateful about real-world events and wouldn't stop bringing that stuff up all the time. I even remember that back in June 2022 the mods of that server made an announcement pinging everyone to simply say that "anyone who doesn't support pride will be permanently banned" and it just went downhill from there.

Earlier this year things got so bad that you couldn't go to a single channel without seeing walls of text about one or more people complaining and bitching about Elon Musk or about a dead guy called Ronald Reagan. I didn't ask anyone there what did any of this stuff had to do with Owlcat games because I knew that I would've been kicked out of the server simply by asking that. lmfao

I guess I was somewhat expecting things to go back to how they were, but by the time I joined this HQ I had already accepted that discord was now a lost cause.
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I'm trying to think of any other degeneracy besides Halsin that hasn't been dealt with by the mod yet... It would be nice not to have to kill Lakrissa in Act 1.
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old-red-paint wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 19:00
I'm trying to think of any other degeneracy besides Halsin that hasn't been dealt with by the mod yet... It would be nice not to have to kill Lakrissa in Act 1.
Then don't? Aside from looking weird, I haven't noticed anything bad about her. (Though her being a lesbian enamoured with Alfira could be considered a problem)
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BG3 Elves:


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Who is uglier? Id say the Elves.....
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That queue had a particularly high concentration of deviants.....about half of the non guards were deviants (which means the first thing they did as a reaction to a complete stranger approaching them was declaring their love for anal sex.....now that I think of it, for an "Angel of death" my durge has rather lax criteria for who gets to live and who to die).
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Kronus wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:36
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:27
UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:20


Legit, it's almost the only thing that they talk about in the Owlcat discord server which is as infected with the woke mindvirus as you can imagine.

It's always either "assume everyone is bisexual until shown/said otherwise" or "if this character isn't romanceable, then he/she must be aro-ace" when discussing games. I wish I was joking.

Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
Morbid curiosity maybe. Funniest thing is, even 3D Realms discord servers are woke as hell, going so far as to ban everyone who spoke against the censorship in Ion Maiden.

Funniest thing I have seen on the Steam forums is a ***** arguing with some guy about about reviews being evident that the game had very few people complaining about the woke. The guy saying it is because brining up any specifics in a review or forum will result in the poster being banned and often the post being deleted. The ***** denying, going off about them just being general bigots/homophobes/sexist/racist who couldn't give any real examples. The poster defending saying they will just be called a bigot, homophobe, racist, sexist anyway and didn't want to bother... which resulted in the that poster being banned minutes later. LOL

They literally proved the point and when another poster came in and said "well, looks like his point was made", that poster gets banned shortly after.

I mean, you can't make this crap up it is so pathetic.
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Good news bros. We can do direct localization overrides per line, and just make it a regular pak file that goes in your load order. No more having to mess with loose files:
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Xenich wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 22:27
Kronus wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:36
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:27



Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
Morbid curiosity maybe. Funniest thing is, even 3D Realms discord servers are woke as hell, going so far as to ban everyone who spoke against the censorship in Ion Maiden.

Funniest thing I have seen on the Steam forums is a ***** arguing with some guy about about reviews being evident that the game had very few people complaining about the woke. The guy saying it is because brining up any specifics in a review or forum will result in the poster being banned and often the post being deleted. The ***** denying, going off about them just being general bigots/homophobes/sexist/racist who couldn't give any real examples. The poster defending saying they will just be called a bigot, homophobe, racist, sexist anyway and didn't want to bother... which resulted in the that poster being banned minutes later. LOL

They literally proved the point and when another poster came in and said "well, looks like his point was made", that poster gets banned shortly after.

I mean, you can't make this crap up it is so pathetic.
Quite the spectacle. I used to think Looney ****** were funniest when they were only a costume. Now I can't even dine at a restaurant without seeing a hulking mass of mental disorders going to the ladies bathroom. How progressive.
loregamer wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 23:04
Good news bros. We can do direct localization overrides per line, and just make it a regular pak file that goes in your load order. No more having to mess with loose files:
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Test file:
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 01:24
"anyone who doesn't support pride will be permanently banned"
**** those arrogant *******.
You may as well not bother replying to my posts if it's to argue anything except concrete facts or your personal opinion. I still probably won't see it.
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loregamer wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 23:04
Good news bros. We can do direct localization overrides per line, and just make it a regular pak file that goes in your load order. No more having to mess with loose files:
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Xenich wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 22:27
Kronus wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:36
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:27



Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
Morbid curiosity maybe. Funniest thing is, even 3D Realms discord servers are woke as hell, going so far as to ban everyone who spoke against the censorship in Ion Maiden.

Funniest thing I have seen on the Steam forums is a ***** arguing with some guy about about reviews being evident that the game had very few people complaining about the woke. The guy saying it is because brining up any specifics in a review or forum will result in the poster being banned and often the post being deleted. The ***** denying, going off about them just being general bigots/homophobes/sexist/racist who couldn't give any real examples. The poster defending saying they will just be called a bigot, homophobe, racist, sexist anyway and didn't want to bother... which resulted in the that poster being banned minutes later. LOL

They literally proved the point and when another poster came in and said "well, looks like his point was made", that poster gets banned shortly after.

I mean, you can't make this crap up it is so pathetic.
Then they get puzzled about growing resentment about LGBT community .They honestly believe this unironically β€œIf we just ban all wrong think surely people will like us”
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 01:24
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 00:27
UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 20th, 2024, 21:20


Legit, it's almost the only thing that they talk about in the Owlcat discord server which is as infected with the woke mindvirus as you can imagine.

It's always either "assume everyone is bisexual until shown/said otherwise" or "if this character isn't romanceable, then he/she must be aro-ace" when discussing games. I wish I was joking.

Why would you ever willingly go to a Owlcat discord server.
I first joined discord back in late 2018 when Owlcat only had Kingmaker released and WotR was just announced to be in development, I remember the conversations to be what you would normally see in your average RPG forums, and speaking about real-life geopolitics was discouraged.

Slowly and surely, however, as the years went by the people online began to get angrier and incredibly hateful about real-world events and wouldn't stop bringing that stuff up all the time. I even remember that back in June 2022 the mods of that server made an announcement pinging everyone to simply say that "anyone who doesn't support pride will be permanently banned" and it just went downhill from there.

Earlier this year things got so bad that you couldn't go to a single channel without seeing walls of text about one or more people complaining and bitching about Elon Musk or about a dead guy called Ronald Reagan. I didn't ask anyone there what did any of this stuff had to do with Owlcat games because I knew that I would've been kicked out of the server simply by asking that. lmfao

I guess I was somewhat expecting things to go back to how they were, but by the time I joined this HQ I had already accepted that discord was now a lost cause.


Yep. Same reason I stop going to the pathfinder subreddit. To much toxic positivity, selective enforcement of rules and the frequent *****/ LGB **** . If had a nickel for every post being β€œ oh Owlcat I feel so validated because there is X *****/ gay character β€œ I be a very wealthy man.

It’s ******* pathetic.
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Not sure if you noticed, but your profile pic is a woman despite you being male. Hope this helps
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loregamer wrote: ↑ September 22nd, 2024, 13:28
Not sure if you noticed, but your profile pic is a woman despite you being male. Hope this helps
Yep I sure do. Thanks for noticing.
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Unknown998 wrote: ↑ September 21st, 2024, 20:28
BG3 Elves:


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Who is uglier? Id say the Elves.....
This looks ******* horrible, thank Orin for this wonderful mod though.
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some offtopic:

recently knew that Ketheric planned to be a companion and had personal quest involving Infernal Iron, game files still have 'Ketheric's Infernal Iron'. But then WoTC decided to introduce kalifornia campus girl to tha game and made me behead this tiefling scum every time
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AndreGAS wrote: ↑ September 23rd, 2024, 13:56
some offtopic:

recently knew that Ketheric planned to be a companion and had personal quest involving Infernal Iron, game files still have 'Ketheric's Infernal Iron'. But then WoTC decided to introduce kalifornia campus girl to tha game and made me behead this tiefling scum every time
Well good thing about some companions is, failing/picking the "wrong" choice in their questlines may result in the deaths of some (I believe most) of them. My Wyll for example ended up a bit darker than he was, a modest pile of ash by the camp.
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Some updates (since i've been away so long)
  1. Now the Lingo File can be created without having to overwrite every **** line in game. Translators can also do this with the new system! (Tutorial)
  2. Finished updating all 1030 changed lines in NoAlphabets for patch 7.
  3. Finished updating Aesthetics mod.
  4. Used modding tool to generate portraits for all 22 NPCs that need them! No more screenshotted portraits yay! (Tutorial)
  5. Bearded Aylin has a beard in his portrait.
  6. You can now drop Bearded Aylin in the mod manager or mods folder without worrying about priority.
  7. NoAlphabetsVoice is no longer an override. File size has drastically reduced because compression is now possible.
  8. TO DO: work on the Dialog Tree
Note: I haven't updated the downloads page because I'd rather push it all in one go. And Aesthetics and Lingo works fine as it is anyway.

With this the [PAK]Lingo and hacky loose file Lingo files will be completely obsolete.
I am still rather busy with stuff. So can't promise anything within the next 2 week.
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