BG3 Official Modding Toolkit - RELEASED & UNLOCKED

[Vergil]

Now it's too late to change it

[loregamer]

You know how much trouble we went through to get Skyrim modded and still go through? People will do it.

I don’t think the game with the most in depth toolkit that allows modders to make as much gay sex quests as they want is a good comparison to how locked down and inaccessible modding UE is tbh. We can try data mining and hacking the games as much as we want, but there WILL be limitations as opposed to other engines

[Rand]

Turn all the female characters into women.

Dang it. Now it's too late to change it My point stands

It's too late to hide it. Please fix it anyway.

Turn all the female characters into women men. The male players here can live in their woman-free fantasy, the female players can have more romance options XD

[rusty_shackleford]

unreal engine being the most popular engine thanks to unity shooting themselves in the face is basically the death of modding
I'm not saying the games can't be modded, but especially without any help from the developers it's really ******* time consuming and most people aren't gonna do it

You know how much trouble we went through to get Skyrim modded and still go through? People will do it. Just look at dopey Arthmoor still slogging away at Starfail. If some moron is dumb enough to mod THAT, modding isn't going anywhere. Unreal isn't the only engine in town anyway. (In fact my company ruled them out. They're not as insane as Unity but are far from reliable.) A little fun sidenote here, the CEO of Unity that made all these idiotic decisions? Used to be the CEO of none other than... EA.

A lot of other engines have high modability and the devs that work with modders are quite popular too.

For myself, it's rare I'll even play a game that isn't moddable on some level from the start. That's the first thing I check. Moddable? Potentially viable. Otherwise, pass usually.

SKSE guy has received help directly from Bethesda while reverse engineering.

[rusty_shackleford]

You know how much trouble we went through to get Skyrim modded and still go through? People will do it.

I don’t think the game most in depth toolkit that allows modders to make as much gay sex quests as they want is a good comparison to how locked down and inaccessible modding UE is tbh. We can try data mining and hacking the games as much as we want, but there WILL be limitations as opposed to other engines

The number of people capable of reverse engineering complex compiled binaries is small, the number willing to do it for a game with no compensation is maybe a couple dozen in the world. The game in question has to be mega popular for someone to care enough to do it.

[Vergil]

unreal engine being the most popular engine thanks to unity shooting themselves in the face is basically the death of modding
I'm not saying the games can't be modded, but especially without any help from the developers it's really ******* time consuming and most people aren't gonna do it

You know how much trouble we went through to get Skyrim modded and still go through? People will do it. Just look at dopey Arthmoor still slogging away at Starfail. If some moron is dumb enough to mod THAT, modding isn't going anywhere. Unreal isn't the only engine in town anyway. (In fact my company ruled them out. They're not as insane as Unity but are far from reliable.) A little fun sidenote here, the CEO of Unity that made all these idiotic decisions? Used to be the CEO of none other than... EA.

A lot of other engines have high modability and the devs that work with modders are quite popular too.

For myself, it's rare I'll even play a game that isn't moddable on some level from the start. That's the first thing I check. Moddable? Potentially viable. Otherwise, pass usually.

SKSE guy has received help directly from Bethesda while reverse engineering.

Yea Skyrim might actually be the worst example to use when trying to come up with games that were hard to mod.

[Nessa]

I don’t think the game most in depth toolkit that allows modders to make as much gay sex quests as they want is a good comparison to how locked down and inaccessible modding UE is tbh. We can try data mining and hacking the games as much as we want, but there WILL be limitations as opposed to other engines

I'll have you know I only have good wholesome straight goblin sex mods, none of that gay filth in ohhhh...

AHEM, yes, unreal is not the best engine. But they have modding for stuff that you can't even mod legally, like those Zelda games. That has a whole community turning Link into Zelda. (Which isn't much of a stretch but I digress. ) Somewhere, somebody is going to have enough time and be crazy enough to do it. Granted it won't be as healthy as something with built in modding tools. Also you could see a shift of modders to devs who specialize in modding. PDX games typically, CA, etc.

[rusty_shackleford]

You know how much trouble we went through to get Skyrim modded and still go through? People will do it. Just look at dopey Arthmoor still slogging away at Starfail. If some moron is dumb enough to mod THAT, modding isn't going anywhere. Unreal isn't the only engine in town anyway. (In fact my company ruled them out. They're not as insane as Unity but are far from reliable.) A little fun sidenote here, the CEO of Unity that made all these idiotic decisions? Used to be the CEO of none other than... EA.

A lot of other engines have high modability and the devs that work with modders are quite popular too.

For myself, it's rare I'll even play a game that isn't moddable on some level from the start. That's the first thing I check. Moddable? Potentially viable. Otherwise, pass usually.

SKSE guy has received help directly from Bethesda while reverse engineering.

Yea Skyrim might actually be the worst example to use when trying to come up with games that were hard to mod.

In terms of the script extender it's not a bad example except the guy received a lot of help from Bethesda. An example I'd go with would probably be something like sfall for fo2 or temple+ for ToEE. Complex, years of reverse engineering by diehard fans with the knowledge of how to do it.

These things only happen when stars align and someone who knows how to do it is a major fan of the game.

[Nessa]

Also while I'm thinking on the subject, there's a group of people even more insane than normal modders: Japanese (also Koreans, eeks) modders. These guys are FREAKS. They mod stuff that shouldn't ever be modded. Into horrifying things that should never be seen. A case for not modding something actually.

EDIT: I just noticed we're not actually in the modding thread. I blame Lore. And Rusty. Then Lore again.

[loregamer]

EDIT: I just noticed we're not actually in the modding thread. I blame Lore. And Rusty. Then Lore again.

Time to issue my first ban as a moderator!

[Xenich]

Ok, I ran through the posts, didn't see it.

Has anyone seen if the engine has the capability to modify, create, adjust core game systems to something else? For instance, would a AD&D First edition conversion work or even more drastic changes such as converting/creating a Shadowrun system? How hardcoded are the core system mechanics into the engine? The DOS engine is very powerful, but the core mechanics were hardcoded so you were simply constrained to making DOS with new content.

[loregamer]

That has a whole community turning Link into Zelda. (Which isn't much of a stretch but I digress. ) Somewhere, somebody is going to have enough time and be crazy enough to do it.

Didn’t realize there were mods for BOTW. That’s a better comparison. Pretty impressive since that game is already having to be emulated.

[gerey]

Didn’t realize there were mods for BOTW

Not just simple mods either, but they're making a whole expansion for BOTW, as well as revamping most of the shrines to be more unique, introducing new quests etc.

[Nessa]

Didn’t realize there were mods for BOTW. That’s a better comparison. Pretty impressive since that game is already having to be emulated.

I played the first BOTW as "Linkle". It was a total conversion. Everyone refers to the characters as female. Even bypassed that stupid part where Link has to dress up like a girl to get into a town. So it was changing quests and everyhing.

They're turning Link into Zelda (again, not much stretch here ) for the newest BOTW. That's still ongoing but they're doing a ton of crazy work.

[loregamer]

Not just simple mods either, but they're making a whole expansion for BOTW, as well as revamping most of the shrines to be more unique, introducing new quests etc.

I played the first BOTW as "Linkle". It was a total conversion. Everyone refers to the characters as female. Even bypassed that stupid part where Link has to dress up like a girl to get into a town. So it was changing quests and everyhing.

They're turning Link into Zelda (again, not much stretch here ) for the newest BOTW. That's still ongoing but they're doing a ton of crazy work.

Is this a case of Nintendo fans being autistic enough to want to deal with this? If a game required black voodoo magic to mod, I would just move on. Was already at my limit modding UE4 for Hogwarts Legacy. Never ******* again

[destinyhntr]

Turn all the female characters into women.

[Nessa]

Is this a case of Nintendo fans being autistic enough to want to deal with this? If a game required black voodoo magic to mod, I would just move on. Was already at my limit modding UE4 for Hogwarts Legacy. Never ******* again

They're revamping the game to play as Zelda with... not just a redone model for Zelda. All her outfits. Most of them sexy. If not totally nude. They've also redone all the great fairies, putting the "great" back in Great Fairy for sure.

And yes, they're that autistic.

[ArcaneLurker]

Is this a case of Nintendo fans being autistic enough to want to deal with this? If a game required black voodoo magic to mod, I would just move on. Was already at my limit modding UE4 for Hogwarts Legacy. Never ******* again

They've also redone all the great fairies, putting the "great" back in Great Fairy for sure.

This one?

[gerey]

s this a case of Nintendo fans being autistic enough to want to deal with this?

Apparently the game is relatively easy to mod, at least for a console game, hence why such extensive modification to the game are even possible.

Can't really think of any game that has a thriving modding scene despite being hard to mod - you either get enough autists to reach critical mass and figure out how to do more and more complex things, or people simply give up and move on to greener pastures.

That being said, MechWarrior 5 has a semi-active modding scene that has accomplished a few fairly interesting things, and this despite the game running on Unreal 5.

[Cipher]

s this a case of Nintendo fans being autistic enough to want to deal with this?

Apparently the game is relatively easy to mod, at least for a console game, hence why such extensive modification to the game are even possible.

Can't really think of any game that has a thriving modding scene despite being hard to mod - you either get enough autists to reach critical mass and figure out how to do more and more complex things, or people simply give up and move on to greener pastures.

That being said, MechWarrior 5 has a semi-active modding scene that has accomplished a few fairly interesting things, and this despite the game running on Unreal 5.

Indeed, but Mechwarrior 5 has official modding tools so, I am not sure how much those carried the development of stuff like Coyote's Mission Pack or YAML.

[Nessa]

This one?

That's not great enough. Try this (NSFW of course):

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[loregamer]

That's not great enough. Try this (NSFW of course):

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Ah… so that was their real motivator… got it…

[Nessa]

Ah… so that was their real motivator… got it…

[ArcaneLurker]

This one?

That's not great enough. Try this (NSFW of course):

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Nice bush

Aside from the nudity, the model does look way better than the original

That's not great enough. Try this (NSFW of course):

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Ah… so that was their real motivator… got it…

[destinyhntr]

unreal engine being the most popular engine thanks to unity shooting themselves in the face is basically the death of modding
I'm not saying the games can't be modded, but especially without any help from the developers it's really ******* time consuming and most people aren't gonna do it

It’s fine, AI will become so advanced that we will be able to make our own games

I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to that. Won't the market become oversaturated by mediocre games made by lazy, uncreative people who rely on AI to make a quick buck? It's already happening with youtube videos.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

unreal engine being the most popular engine thanks to unity shooting themselves in the face is basically the death of modding
I'm not saying the games can't be modded, but especially without any help from the developers it's really ******* time consuming and most people aren't gonna do it

It’s fine, AI will become so advanced that we will be able to make our own games

I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to that. Won't the market become oversaturated by mediocre games made by lazy, uncreative people who rely on AI to make a quick buck? It's already happening with youtube videos.

Very likely but just like asset flip games large swathes won’t sell at all and only the quality AI assets that blend handcrafted content will gain notoriety.

[Magick]

This one?

That's not great enough. Try this (NSFW of course):

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[Rand]

not just a redone model for Zelda. All her outfits. Most of them sexy. If not totally nude.

These ******* people.

[SniperChris]

This one?

That's not great enough. Try this (NSFW of course):

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Based horny Autiste. We just need to get the Japanese really into Shadowheart or something.

[Nessa]

These ******* people.

That's the point. Nobody is, so they make these mods.