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So after spending quite a bit of time testing, as well as using feedback from some pretty seasoned players, I decided to update the content from my Pathfinder 1st edition Guide and Homebrew collection :) This will be the final version, and will be my tribute to this amazing game! Inside this document you will find a guide with suggestions for newer (and veteran) players, additional content, and optional rules, which me and my groups have used in the past and which I feel has really helped enrich the experience we had while playing this game.

I have also commissioned several artists that I liked to make art for the project, and I hope that you will all enjoy the final result and perhaps even use them in your future Pathfinder 1E adventures!

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Looks neat. I haven’t played the Pathfinder TTRPG outside the CRPG’s
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:36
Looks neat. I haven’t played the Pathfinder TTRPG outside the CRPG’s
Yeah, Pathfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous are great games, and I'm glad they introduced people to Pathfinder and through that to Dungeons & Dragons 3rd edition (Pathfinder 1E is basically Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 edition, which was the last edition that Gary Gygax influenced, and in my honest opinion is the most realistic and fun when it comes to combat).

If you are interested, I actually made a mod for my Minos player race, so that people can play them in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous:

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nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:51
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:36
Looks neat. I haven’t played the Pathfinder TTRPG outside the CRPG’s
Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 edition, which was the last edition that Gary Gygax influenced,
I suppose it depends on what you mean by influenced, but he would have been working on Lejendary Journeys or with Troll Lord Games at that time.
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Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
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nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:51
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:36
Looks neat. I haven’t played the Pathfinder TTRPG outside the CRPG’s
Yeah, Pathfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous are great games, and I'm glad they introduced people to Pathfinder and through that to Dungeons & Dragons 3rd edition (Pathfinder 1E is basically Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 edition, which was the last edition that Gary Gygax influenced, and in my honest opinion is the most realistic and fun when it comes to combat).

If you are interested, I actually made a mod for my Minos player race, so that people can play them in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous:

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwra ... s/mods/517

Nice work with the models. Always appreciate more customization options since I do feel it was lacking in the pathfinder games. Unfortunately Pazio has moved away from PF:1Ed to 2Ed which I have zero interest both mechanically and narratively.its not as bad as D&D 5th but I mean how can go lower that rock bottom.

I wish Pazio would take a page from White Wolf and still make and continue legacy line World of Darkness"( it’s called anniversary edition that contains of edition ruleset that you can pick and choose) the new stuff Chronicles of Darkness.(Reboot series)
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rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Gygax disliked the idea of spellcasters being too overpowered. And if so, then I imagine that he disliked not only 3.5 but also 2e Advanced DnD to some degree.

In the 1e he made, wizards were just "magic-users" - sorcerers didn't existed - and it took thrm an arm and a leg to learn even a single new spell, since back then mages didn't even learned new spells automatically at level-up.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
I honestly didn't know that. From what I gathered was that the creators of the game often contacted him for advice.

Plus, 3rd edition was still the most similar to second edition when compared to all the other systems that came out, like D&D 4th edition, Pathfinder 2nd edition (which is basically just D&D 4.5), and D&D 5th edition (though I suppose 5E can be seen as a simplified version of 3E?).
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UltraFan123 wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:40
rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Gygax disliked the idea of spellcasters being too overpowered. And if so, then I imagine that he disliked not only 3.5 but also 2e Advanced DnD to some degree.

In the 1e he made, wizards were just "magic-users" - sorcerers didn't existed - and it took thrm an arm and a leg to learn even a single new spell, since back then mages didn't even learned new spells automatically at level-up.
Ah, so that is what he meant. Honestly, I can see why spellcasters later on were a tad strong, but I always felt that that was thematic. Plus, early game, your spellcasters are super weak, so that just seemed like fair play to me. That said, you had book of nine swords, and it's Pathfinder 1E equivalent: Path of War, which gave more impactful abilities to melee classes (Path of War its Martial Training https://www.d20pfsrd.com/alternative-ru ... -i-combat/ feats are awesome btw, as they require some investment but can be used by the standard classes).
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:26
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:51
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:36
Looks neat. I haven’t played the Pathfinder TTRPG outside the CRPG’s
Yeah, Pathfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous are great games, and I'm glad they introduced people to Pathfinder and through that to Dungeons & Dragons 3rd edition (Pathfinder 1E is basically Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 edition, which was the last edition that Gary Gygax influenced, and in my honest opinion is the most realistic and fun when it comes to combat).

If you are interested, I actually made a mod for my Minos player race, so that people can play them in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous:

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwra ... s/mods/517

Nice work with the models. Always appreciate more customization options since I do feel it was lacking in the pathfinder games. Unfortunately Pazio has moved away from PF:1Ed to 2Ed which I have zero interest both mechanically and narratively.its not as bad as D&D 5th but I mean how can go lower that rock bottom.

I wish Pazio would take a page from White Wolf and still make and continue legacy line World of Darkness"( it’s called anniversary edition that contains of edition ruleset that you can pick and choose) the new stuff Chronicles of Darkness.(Reboot series)
I honestly agree: Pathfinder 2E is just another version of D&D 4E, which was the very system that allowed Paizo to become big with Pathfinder 1E, ironically XD

But fortunately, you don't need Paizo anymore. All the content for Pathfinder 1E is finished, and with my guide (on the first page of the PDF) you can just use free online content to get started. Plus you can find the physically printed books still online for a decent price if that is more of your thing.

And thank you for the compliment! The Minos as a mod also gives you an entire new race, complete with new abilities, to give you more options in the Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous video game as well :)
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nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 16:01
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:26
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:51


Yeah, Pathfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous are great games, and I'm glad they introduced people to Pathfinder and through that to Dungeons & Dragons 3rd edition (Pathfinder 1E is basically Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 edition, which was the last edition that Gary Gygax influenced, and in my honest opinion is the most realistic and fun when it comes to combat).

If you are interested, I actually made a mod for my Minos player race, so that people can play them in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous:

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwra ... s/mods/517

Nice work with the models. Always appreciate more customization options since I do feel it was lacking in the pathfinder games. Unfortunately Pazio has moved away from PF:1Ed to 2Ed which I have zero interest both mechanically and narratively.its not as bad as D&D 5th but I mean how can go lower that rock bottom.

I wish Pazio would take a page from White Wolf and still make and continue legacy line World of Darkness"( it’s called anniversary edition that contains of edition ruleset that you can pick and choose) the new stuff Chronicles of Darkness.(Reboot series)
I honestly agree: Pathfinder 2E is just another version of D&D 4E, which was the very system that allowed Paizo to become big with Pathfinder 1E, ironically XD

But fortunately, you don't need Paizo anymore. All the content for Pathfinder 1E is finished, and with my guide (on the first page of the PDF) you can just use free online content to get started. Plus you can find the physically printed books still online for a decent price if that is more of your thing.

And thank you for the compliment! The Minos as a mod also gives you an entire new race, complete with new abilities, to give you more options in the Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous video game as well :)
I haven't looked through your doc yet, but do you have any materials about P6 (aka Pathfinder E6)? It's my preferred way to play Pathfinder.

https://www.p6codex.com/
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Acrux wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:11
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 13:51
Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 edition, which was the last edition that Gary Gygax influenced,
I suppose it depends on what you mean by influenced, but he would have been working on Lejendary Journeys or with Troll Lord Games at that time.
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:56
From what I gathered was that the creators of the game often contacted him for advice.
Well, I suppose you could make the argument that 3.5 was the last one that still retained Gygaxian Naturalism as a core part of its design; how much that returned in 5e, I'm not sure.
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UltraFan123 wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:40
rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Gygax disliked the idea of spellcasters being too overpowered. And if so, then I imagine that he disliked not only 3.5 but also 2e Advanced DnD to some degree.

In the 1e he made, wizards were just "magic-users" - sorcerers didn't existed - and it took thrm an arm and a leg to learn even a single new spell, since back then mages didn't even learned new spells automatically at level-up.
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:56
rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
I honestly didn't know that. From what I gathered was that the creators of the game often contacted him for advice.

Plus, 3rd edition was still the most similar to second edition when compared to all the other systems that came out, like D&D 4th edition, Pathfinder 2nd edition (which is basically just D&D 4.5), and D&D 5th edition (though I suppose 5E can be seen as a simplified version of 3E?).
There is no relationship between 3E and original D&D, or OAD&D for that matter. Different games, style, and spirit.
IMO there has been a vast shift in game focus in 3E. The archetype has gone by the board, comic book-like feats are a feature, the whole purpose of play is set on killing things, and power gaming is encouraged. Long-term play is not facilitated by the new game.
Additionally, I find no soul in the new D&D game, no archetypes, just seek and destroy play and too much of the comic book superhero in characters.
Yes, Gygax did invoke SOVL.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: September 11th, 2024, 00:39
UltraFan123 wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:40
rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Gygax disliked the idea of spellcasters being too overpowered. And if so, then I imagine that he disliked not only 3.5 but also 2e Advanced DnD to some degree.

In the 1e he made, wizards were just "magic-users" - sorcerers didn't existed - and it took thrm an arm and a leg to learn even a single new spell, since back then mages didn't even learned new spells automatically at level-up.
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:56
rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
I honestly didn't know that. From what I gathered was that the creators of the game often contacted him for advice.

Plus, 3rd edition was still the most similar to second edition when compared to all the other systems that came out, like D&D 4th edition, Pathfinder 2nd edition (which is basically just D&D 4.5), and D&D 5th edition (though I suppose 5E can be seen as a simplified version of 3E?).
There is no relationship between 3E and original D&D, or OAD&D for that matter. Different games, style, and spirit.
IMO there has been a vast shift in game focus in 3E. The archetype has gone by the board, comic book-like feats are a feature, the whole purpose of play is set on killing things, and power gaming is encouraged. Long-term play is not facilitated by the new game.
Additionally, I find no soul in the new D&D game, no archetypes, just seek and destroy play and too much of the comic book superhero in characters.
Yes, Gygax did invoke SOVL.
SOVL? What is that?
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nielspeterdejong wrote: September 17th, 2024, 15:16
rusty_shackleford wrote: September 11th, 2024, 00:39
UltraFan123 wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:40


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Gygax disliked the idea of spellcasters being too overpowered. And if so, then I imagine that he disliked not only 3.5 but also 2e Advanced DnD to some degree.

In the 1e he made, wizards were just "magic-users" - sorcerers didn't existed - and it took thrm an arm and a leg to learn even a single new spell, since back then mages didn't even learned new spells automatically at level-up.
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 10th, 2024, 15:56


I honestly didn't know that. From what I gathered was that the creators of the game often contacted him for advice.

Plus, 3rd edition was still the most similar to second edition when compared to all the other systems that came out, like D&D 4th edition, Pathfinder 2nd edition (which is basically just D&D 4.5), and D&D 5th edition (though I suppose 5E can be seen as a simplified version of 3E?).
There is no relationship between 3E and original D&D, or OAD&D for that matter. Different games, style, and spirit.
IMO there has been a vast shift in game focus in 3E. The archetype has gone by the board, comic book-like feats are a feature, the whole purpose of play is set on killing things, and power gaming is encouraged. Long-term play is not facilitated by the new game.
Additionally, I find no soul in the new D&D game, no archetypes, just seek and destroy play and too much of the comic book superhero in characters.
Yes, Gygax did invoke SOVL.
SOVL? What is that?
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Ah got it, thanks! And yeah, he did invoke soul. You could tell that D&D 3rd edition was a passion project, and that it was made by actual fans of the franchize. Now, 5E is okay, but it is more like a oversimplified version of 3E. Whereas D&D 3.5, and its successor Pathfinder 1E, feel like the most realistic approach you can have to roleplaying. Sure, it is still a roleplaying GAME first and foremost, so the rules are also made to make the combat fun first and foremost, but if you don't mind a bit of numbers gaming then it is one of the best systems for complex yet somewhat-realistic combat you can find!

Overall, I'm just really grateful to Gary Gygax for what he did. I hate how so many woke "creators" at Wizards of the Coast right now demonize him as a "sexist white male", like the ignorant and arrogant pos they are. But I also love how they would be out of a job if they weren't able to make their increasingly watered down version of his original vision. Though I won't be buying any of their slop anymore, as Wizard of the Coast's Dungeons & Dragons is pretty much dead. And instead, I intend to use the older works that were made by people that loved the hobby and respected good old Gary. One of those being Pathfinder 1E, which is essentially extended Dungeons & Dragons 3rd edition, which is the system I'm still playing with :)
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rusty_shackleford wrote: September 10th, 2024, 14:14
Gygax had a strong dislike of 3.5e.
Who didn't? I stayed away from it for as long as possible. In the end it's workable, but I much prefer 2nd edition.
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nielspeterdejong wrote: September 19th, 2024, 11:59

Overall, I'm just really grateful to Gary Gygax for what he did. I hate how so many woke "creators" at Wizards of the Coast right now demonize him as a "sexist white male", like the ignorant and arrogant pos they are.
There envy and resentment that they will never achieve anything in their own creative works with them only finding any inkling of success by riding the coattails of his works.

There ism’s are meaningless pathetic attempts mask inadequacies with virtue signalling.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: September 19th, 2024, 12:25
nielspeterdejong wrote: September 19th, 2024, 11:59

Overall, I'm just really grateful to Gary Gygax for what he did. I hate how so many woke "creators" at Wizards of the Coast right now demonize him as a "sexist white male", like the ignorant and arrogant pos they are.
There envy and resentment that they will never achieve anything in their own creative works with them only finding any inkling of success by riding the coattails of his works.

There ism’s are meaningless pathetic attempts mask inadequacies with virtue signalling.
Yup, you summed it up nicely. Just listening to them you can tell the bitterness that they have, while simultaneously talking calmly while continuously smiling; which they do because they have this smug sense of false superiority to others, while they constantly have lived inside their own little echo chambers.

I mean, just listen to this guy (I think it is?) from Sweet Baby Inc. Also, the last line he says there, kinda is a slip of the mask. They are losers who are too lazy to create anything on their own, so they hope to destroy everything else so that other people have no choice but to consume their marxist braindead propaganda:

Sweet Baby INC is cooked

His face is EXACTLY how I pictured a SBI employee to be XD
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