The Dragon's Dogma 2 Thread

[UltraFan123]

The gay part is partly true, but the ones seen engaging on that stuff - mainly the protagonist and antagonist during their backstories - weren't shown enjoying it, like at all.

And the tone shift at the middle of the manga is true, more specifically when the in-story world "transformed" and Guts went from traveling by himself to forming a small party with companions. The story remained pretty dark, but it was a bit less "gritty" from that point on since arcane magic and more mystical stuffs were introduced.

No idea about Miura and the pedo game though.

[Finarfin]

Berserk is hugely gay and Miura abandoned Berserk to play a pedo porn game.

Is there somewhere I can read up more on this? Have no idea of the behind the scenes such as this, though I did notice Berserk started changing as a manga at some point (Puck getting stuck into "comedy form" for example).

Miura was heavily into The Idolm@ster, you'll probably find something if you google his name and The Idolm@ster

[Nooneatall]

I'm so tired of every souls game having a "bleak, dead, empty" world. Rather get a Happy Souls with enough NPCs to make a proper RPG (instead of an Action game) for once.

Did you just have a stroke?
"Im tired of every game in the series being thematically consistent, why cant we get something entirely different?!"

**** off and die ******.

There is no need to get so worked up about someone not wanting to play the same slop (with a few name changes) over and over.

I hate what dark souls became. I enjoyed demon and dark souls but it's a grim dark edgy world that is depressing to play. I'd rather play a fun upbeat game.

[Brother Michael]

Did you just have a stroke?
"Im tired of every game in the series being thematically consistent, why cant we get something entirely different?!"

**** off and die ******.

There is no need to get so worked up about someone not wanting to play the same slop (with a few name changes) over and over.

I hate what dark souls became. I enjoyed demon and dark souls but it's a grim dark edgy world that is depressing to play. I'd rather play a fun upbeat game.

I think Dark Souls pulls off the atmosphere very well. It also can’t be said that it’s cheerless, especially with how it interacts with multiplayer/the community.

[Nooneatall]

There is no need to get so worked up about someone not wanting to play the same slop (with a few name changes) over and over.

I hate what dark souls became. I enjoyed demon and dark souls but it's a grim dark edgy world that is depressing to play. I'd rather play a fun upbeat game.

I think Dark Souls pulls off the atmosphere very well. It also can’t be said that it’s cheerless, especially with how it interacts with multiplayer/the community.

I hate interacting with other people

[DagothGeas5]

Berserk is hugely gay and Miura abandoned Berserk to play a pedo porn game.

Is there somewhere I can read up more on this? Have no idea of the behind the scenes such as this, though I did notice Berserk started changing as a manga at some point (Puck getting stuck into "comedy form" for example).

Miura was heavily into The Idolm@ster, you'll probably find something if you google his name and The Idolm@ster

I keep reading the name as Idolmonster XD
It is bizarre and quite interesting to see how someone that can make such a story as Berserk then plays something that is anything but that, it is fascinating. The art-style from the cover for the game on Wikipedia is enough to discourage me from reading further into it, but thank you for the info! I had no idea.

[Finarfin]

Is there somewhere I can read up more on this? Have no idea of the behind the scenes such as this, though I did notice Berserk started changing as a manga at some point (Puck getting stuck into "comedy form" for example).

Miura was heavily into The Idolm@ster, you'll probably find something if you google his name and The Idolm@ster

I keep reading the name as Idolmonster XD
It is bizarre and quite interesting to see how someone that can make such a story as Berserk then plays something that is anything but that, it is fascinating. The art-style from the cover for the game on Wikipedia is enough to discourage me from reading further into it, but thank you for the info! I had no idea.

You basically pick an potential idol you like and then help her become a Top-Idol.

[DagothGeas5]

Miura was heavily into The Idolm@ster, you'll probably find something if you google his name and The Idolm@ster

I keep reading the name as Idolmonster XD
It is bizarre and quite interesting to see how someone that can make such a story as Berserk then plays something that is anything but that, it is fascinating. The art-style from the cover for the game on Wikipedia is enough to discourage me from reading further into it, but thank you for the info! I had no idea.

You basically pick an potential idol you like and then help her become a Top-Idol.

So I gathered, but I am usually a bit turned away when I see a certain type of art-style. Maybe because I am older, but it just feels weird to interact with certain characters that are kids or look like kids more than is necessary to find their parents or bring them to the next safe village to drop them off.

[Oyster Sauce]

[maidenhaver]

and this very same manga was the grandfather of the grimdark fantasy genre.

no

to be clear, a lot of sword of sorcery is 'grimdark'. Just off the top of my head, I know things like The Black Company & Kane predate berserk. Almost certain you could trace it to at least the Gothic fiction of the 18th century tho

Grimdark supposes the world was always an evil place, not that it was corrupted or came under attack, and that all characters are essentially bad. Its the English combining spaghetti westerns with fantasy and scifi.

[Statesman]

Devil May Cry is dead it's so ******* over the barrel is in my mouth I'm pulling the ******* trigger

Just as well, 5 felt like a definitive ending.

Vergil will never get his own game now....

So if you had to pick one, Vergil or Astarion?

The gay part is partly true, but the ones seen engaging on that stuff - mainly the protagonist and antagonist during their backstories - weren't shown enjoying it, like at all.

And the tone shift at the middle of the manga is true, more specifically when the in-story world "transformed" and Guts went from traveling by himself to forming a small party with companions. The story remained pretty dark, but it was a bit less "gritty" from that point on since arcane magic and more mystical stuffs were introduced.

No idea about Miura and the pedo game though.

Check this if you want an overview or this if you want a more detailed explanation but, long story short, Miura said on an interview that he played the first Idolmaster game and his best friend, Kouji Mori (the guy who is now continuing Berserk), mentioned Miura's fascination with fan-made videos about the game back in a 2009 Young Animal comment. Fans extrapolated that "his Idolmaster addiction" was causing the hiatus(es) and then turned it into a meme.

[Lich]

Those two links lead to what are effectively a fact-checker and a proto-redditor who worships Miura. This isn't even an argument:

From all this, it can be inferred that Miura's taking all the time he needs to make sure what's to come in Berserk is awesome. The current events are unprecedented in scale as well as in importance in the story, so it'd make perfect sense. But it's also possible that he's working at a slower pace than he used to. As you know he's had health problems due to overworking several years ago, so I could understand the desire to enjoy life a bit. Most likely it's a bit of both. What's important though is that he IS obviously still working on Berserk. There is a reason we speak of "breaks in the prepublication of the series" and not of "vacations". That is because Miura works during the breaks like he does the rest of the time. Remember this if you forget everything else: regardless of whether an episode of Berserk is present in the next issue of Young Animal or not, Miura is working on the series.

"Miura is totally working hard and not gooning to the Idolmaster because Berserk is still awesome and even if he's a bit slower than he used to be he's still working extremely hard and if he takes months-long breaks that doesn't mean he's lazy and even if you don't see him working he's totally working right now if you disagree you're spreading disinformation"
Typical redditor behavior. Also the hiatuses kept happening for years after this ****** wrote that post and the quality of the manga kept going down.

[Vergil]

So if you had to pick one, Vergil or Astarion?

In what context?

[Statesman]

So if you had to pick one, Vergil or Astarion?

In what context?

Well . . . if you had to pick only one of them for a new game/spinoff.

[Vergil]

So if you had to pick one, Vergil or Astarion?

In what context?

Well . . . if you had to pick only one of them for a new game/spinoff.

Vergil, I don't really see what else could be done with Astarion especially as a protagonist in a BG3 style RPG.

[maidenhaver]

Those two links lead to what are effectively a fact-checker and a proto-redditor who worships Miura. This isn't even an argument:

From all this, it can be inferred that Miura's taking all the time he needs to make sure what's to come in Berserk is awesome. The current events are unprecedented in scale as well as in importance in the story, so it'd make perfect sense. But it's also possible that he's working at a slower pace than he used to. As you know he's had health problems due to overworking several years ago, so I could understand the desire to enjoy life a bit. Most likely it's a bit of both. What's important though is that he IS obviously still working on Berserk. There is a reason we speak of "breaks in the prepublication of the series" and not of "vacations". That is because Miura works during the breaks like he does the rest of the time. Remember this if you forget everything else: regardless of whether an episode of Berserk is present in the next issue of Young Animal or not, Miura is working on the series.

"Miura is totally working hard and not gooning to the Idolmaster because Berserk is still awesome and even if he's a bit slower than he used to be he's still working extremely hard and if he takes months-long breaks that doesn't mean he's lazy and even if you don't see him working he's totally working right now if you disagree you're spreading disinformation"
Typical redditor behavior. Also the hiatuses kept happening for years after this ****** wrote that post and the quality of the manga kept going down.

People who make grimdark are sick and degenerate.

[Vergil]

Berserk is incredibly mid and it's praise is fueled almost entirely by nostalgia. If you were not an edgy teen when you started reading it when the sex/violence was naughty and interesting you wouldn't care for it.
A lot of the art from recent chapters fuckin sucked too.

[Nooneatall]

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I like colorful, happy, simple stories where good overcomes evil. No subverted expectations, edginess, or weird dark gross sex stuff required.

[Vergil]

Rape should be illegal to depict btw

[rusty_shackleford]

berserk is the least gay japanese product(every male gets raped or becomes a male prostitute)

[maidenhaver]

Rape should be illegal to depict btw

Yeah, it falls under porn.

[Rand]

Careful, that talk will summon Red7.

[KnightoftheWind]

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I like colorful, happy, simple stories where good overcomes evil. No subverted expectations, edginess, or weird dark gross sex stuff required.

I prefer that as well, just not when "colorful" = juvenile. Like Fortnite or Overwatch. The best stories are always colorful, with the darkness lying under the surface. Like LOTR/Hobbit. Or on the flipside, a grimdark world where you, as the protagonist, work to restore it to life. The problem with a game like Dark Souls, is that nothing you do ultimately matters. The world will always remain grimdark and hopeless because reasons. Even Demon's Souls was a lot more hopeful, since you ultimately end the eldritch threat and the world has a chance to rebuild itself in time.

[The_Mask]

The problem with a game like Dark Souls, is that nothing you do ultimately matters.

Technically, it does. Falling a victim to propaganda just means you prolong the Age of Fire like a ******. Not falling victim to propaganda ushers in the Age of Dark, which makes man rise.

You don't really see the consequences of your actions on a micro level post-end, but no RPG is perfect.

(although even there you can argue that on a micro level, you can see the ending of every character's storyline, if you care to)

[pokafox]

Berserk is incredibly mid and it's praise is fueled almost entirely by nostalgia. If you were not an edgy teen when you started reading it when the sex/violence was naughty and interesting you wouldn't care for it.
A lot of the art from recent chapters fuckin sucked too.

I agree about the latter part, but Golden Age is pretty amazing imho. The art itself is also way above average and quite stunning at times. Am a fan for Doré influence in general though.

It ultimately suffers from modern nihilism like most modern fantasy though. The refusal and/or incapability of clearly drawing a line between good and evil, heroes and vilains makes it dilute itself more and more as the story fails to find any true end goal despite more shocking gore and sex.

[Vergil]

Berserk is incredibly mid and it's praise is fueled almost entirely by nostalgia. If you were not an edgy teen when you started reading it when the sex/violence was naughty and interesting you wouldn't care for it.
A lot of the art from recent chapters fuckin sucked too.

I agree about the latter part, but Golden Age is pretty amazing imho. The art itself is also way above average and quite stunning at times. Am a fan for Doré influence in general though.

It ultimately suffers from modern nihilism like most modern fantasy though. The refusal and/or incapability of clearly drawing a line between good and evil, heroes and vilains makes it dilute itself more and more as the story fails to find any true end goal despite more shocking gore and sex.

Golden Age is the only decent part and it still has lots of weird gay rape. Totally normal thing to want to read and look at btw

[pokafox]

Technically, it does. Falling a victim to propaganda just means you prolong the Age of Fire like a ******. Not falling victim to propaganda ushers in the Age of Dark, which makes man rise.

Humans suck when not under superior being supervision. I never not light papa Gwyn's fire. \'[T]/

[Vergil]

The problem with a game like Dark Souls, is that nothing you do ultimately matters.

Technically, it does. Falling a victim to propaganda just means you prolong the Age of Fire like a ******. Not falling victim to propaganda ushers in the Age of Dark, which makes man rise.

You don't really see the consequences of your actions on a micro level post-end, but no RPG is perfect.

(although even there you can argue that on a micro level, you can see the ending of every character's storyline, if you care to)

Oolacile...

[The_Mask]

Technically, it does. Falling a victim to propaganda just means you prolong the Age of Fire like a ******. Not falling victim to propaganda ushers in the Age of Dark, which makes man rise.

Humans suck when not under superior being supervision. I never not light papa Gwyn's fire. \'[T]/

Being a cop means you know everything is false, bow to the ****** moon god, just for the ability to invade 70 levels down.

Based Miyazaki explaining what the police is without anyone noticing.

[Vergil]

Be nice to Gwyndolin