All modders are parasitic losers?

[Decline]

Lol he wants to turn the place into Something Awful.

We all know how well that ended for the website and for the founder.

Well, yeah. I think that was the one good idea lowtax had.

Don't get me wrong. I never posted there. Never paid the 10 bucks. Not my style of place. But, a good idea is a good idea.

The reason why SA failed there are probably many. I am not an expert on the history of that place.
But one important reason was certainly that lowtax was a deeply troubled and flawed individual, to put it in a way that does not disturb the dead.

There is no reason for Rusty to repeat that.

Also I said 20 bucks. 20 is more than 10. Therefore it is better, right? Jewish reasoning hava nagila dadada etc etc

[Tweed]

Lol he wants to turn the place into Something Awful.

We all know how well that ended for the website and for the founder.

Nope, first time I've heard of this site. Go on...

TL;DR

SA was a web 1.0 funny website. Helped invent being funny on the internet. Would eventually also cause the invention of the website 4chan.
Found Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka achieved big time fame even though he stole a lot of his material from Shawnbaby.
Time goes on, rules become lax. SA goes from harassing and making fun of the dregs of humanity to hiring them (See Dave "Shmorky" Kelly for details)
Furries, ******, **** become welcome. The term ***** is actually a portmanteau of the word Goon (which is a term for a SA poster) and ****** because there's so ******* many of them there.
Site and forum go to ****. Where once people quaked in fear of Lowtax and his mods they openly mock him.
Lowtax defends his beloved ****** even though they hate him as much as anyone. Also by this point he's been divorced/dumped like two or three times, I can't quite remember, once on his own front news page. Also has an addiction to painkillers.
Lowtax alienates everyone, eventually sells his website, blows through all the money, and shoots himself.

[ArcaneLurker]

@Tweed Thanks

[LemonDemonGirl]

Isn't SA like Newgrounds but without the games?

[Decline]

Saying this website is on the verge of destruction right now seems a bit melodramatic.

Maybe. But you also post stupid **** like this:

Society has agreed upon measuring value in money many thousand years ago. That is the world we live in. What are you going to do about it? Call it Jewish?

Quite literally yes.

Can't really say that gives me confidence in your predictive ability.

[A Chinese opium den]

Saying this website is on the verge of destruction right now seems a bit melodramatic.

Maybe. But you also post stupid **** like this:

Society has agreed upon measuring value in money many thousand years ago. That is the world we live in. What are you going to do about it? Call it Jewish?

Quite literally yes.

Can't really say that gives me confidence in your predictive ability.

Its not stupid, that was a good post. Don't be rude.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Lol he wants to turn the place into Something Awful.

We all know how well that ended for the website and for the founder.

Nope, first time I've heard of this site. Go on...

TL;DR

SA was a web 1.0 funny website. Helped invent being funny on the internet. Would eventually also cause the invention of the website 4chan.
Found Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka achieved big time fame even though he stole a lot of his material from Shawnbaby.
Time goes on, rules become lax. SA goes from harassing and making fun of the dregs of humanity to hiring them (See Dave "Shmorky" Kelly for details)
Furries, ******, **** become welcome. The term ***** is actually a portmanteau of the word Goon (which is a term for a SA poster) and ****** because there's so ******* many of them there.
Site and forum go to ****. Where once people quaked in fear of Lowtax and his mods they openly mock him.
Lowtax defends his beloved ****** even though they hate him as much as anyone. Also by this point he's been divorced/dumped like two or three times, I can't quite remember, once on his own front news page. Also has an addiction to painkillers.
Lowtax alienates everyone, eventually sells his website, blows through all the money, and shoots himself.

That’s actually quite sad honestly.

[Acrux]

anything that's worth experiencing or having takes effort and time to make. this includes anything of note from any hobbyist communities. getting money from hobbies you are sincerely passionate about is a secondary concern at most - it may feed into your job skills, but otherwise making money from something you are passionate about, whether if it's painting during your free time or working on mods, again, it is a secondary concern at most, especially considering that most people who tend to have these specific kinds of hobbies *are* financially stable

That is a very fancy fairytale you tell yourself but it is a fairytale nonetheless.

If you are modding as a hobby besides your job, fine I guess. But it will always be limited to fancy new items and other frivolous things. You will not have the time to commit for anything real. You will never be able to give it your all, your best. It will always play the second, third whatever fiddle. So you have two options. You quit your job and work on it for real. But then it cannot be modding. Because that is not allowed. You have to make your own game and earn money with it. Or, alternatively, you stick with the situation and attempt to do something greater and better but which you can't give your everything. It will always fall short. And that will gnaw at the back of your brain. And eventually you will go insane.

That is what you say just doesn't work.

And lets be honest here: Most modders are useless bums that haven't done any work in years, if ever.

Here's some advice: Never make a job out of the things you love doing. You will come to hate them over time. Let your hobbies be your hobbies and excel or just have fun in those as you wish.

[Irenaeus]

Most modders are useless bums that haven't done any work in years

How is that even controversial?

[gerey]

Would eventually also cause the invention of the website 4chan.

To expand on this part.

m00t, the creator of 4chan, used to be a goon, but got annoyed that SA wouldn't let him discuss anime in peace, so he went and created 4chan with a few other goons, and he did this by stealing the code for 2chan, translating what was necessary to English from Japanese (he didn't know Japanese btw) and calling it a day.

The first (and for a while, only) board on 4chan was /a/, but as the site grew and more users joined m00t was forced to create another board for everything else called /b/ - so in case you were wondering why the Random board is called /b/, there's your answer.

Furries, ******, **** become welcome

Of note is that at one point SA had what they called the Lolocaust, during which all the SA furries were deported to an online concentration camp, and could only post there, while the rest of the userbase could freely enter the board and stare at the zoo exhibit, and mock them.

[Orvas Dren]

coal thread

[Tweed]

Would eventually also cause the invention of the website 4chan.

To expand on this part.

m00t, the creator of 4chan, used to be a goon, but got annoyed that SA wouldn't let him discuss anime in peace, so he went and created 4chan with a few other goons, and he did this by stealing the code for 2chan, translating what was necessary to English from Japanese (he didn't know Japanese btw) and calling it a day.

The first (and for a while, only) board on 4chan was /a/, but as the site grew and more users joined m00t was forced to create another board for everything else called /b/ - so in case you were wondering why the Random board is called /b/, there's your answer.

Furries, ******, **** become welcome

Of note is that at one point SA had what they called the Lolocaust, during which all the SA furries were deported to an online concentration camp, and could only post there, while the rest of the userbase could freely enter the board and stare at the zoo exhibit, and mock them.

4chan did something similar at one point, but on bigger scale called April Fur's Day where they opened a new board called /fur/ on April 1st. People assumed it was a joke and everyone rolled with the pornographic punches, but the board continued to exist on the second and that's when people started to raise a stink, but the moderation staff warned and temp banned violators which made the furries grow bold. And then on the third, everyone who'd ever posted on /fur/ got a permanent ban.

To understandu some of the influence SA had. There's a dead npc in Morrowind named Arlowe, you can find a banhammer on his corpse, guess all those shrooms and whiskey let Kirkbride predict the future. In a "blink and you'll miss it" moment, there's a ranking in Vice City called "SA Goon" that pops up with a very specific score in between the "Goon" ranking. Loads of devs big and small used to post on SA including none other than Sawyer. Goons used to be great company for gaming, an indefatigable brotherhood in any situation, and willing to try just about anything once. Space Station 13 wouldn't exist if Goons hadn't stolen the sourcecode from the screwy developer.

But, that's all gone now. People who used to post 50 scrolling goatse marquees and embed last measures on guestbooks cut off their dicks as penance for their crimes and actively try to ruin everything they can get their withered fingers on.

[rusty_shackleford]

basically everyone who wasn't a ***** moved from SA to 4chan

[Tweed]

And now they're all ******.

[Xenich]

And now they're all ******.

That's what they do and why I made the comments I did in the past about **** being tolerated in communities and that tolerance slowly leading to acceptance and essentially moral infection. They purposefully seek out groups that don't approve of them, be it a basic narcist (they always love to be the center of attention, good or bad) or a devious motive.

Ever notice how near churches, schools, etc... they always seem to be around, flying their flags, making a scene? Ever worked in or around them in your life? They are always the center of attention, letting people know they are a ***, talking about *** things be it victimization, promotion, or just general perverse nature. The moment they started the campaign about "just wanting to exist and be left alone", having experienced their behaviors personally, I knew it was a bunch of ******** and where it would lead.

They are a cancer that eats at society because of their mental illness. They can't be shown respect, tolerance, or any form of normalization because they are always seeking to push it far past what anyone truly realizes. Tolerance -> Acceptance -> Approval -> Praise -> Participation, that has always been their goal.

[Silvanus]

Did this ****** just call Diablo 2 a ****** game?

It is the worst ****** game.

Unlike Diablo 4. Which is the best game.

But this is for a different topic.Focus.

Either bait or genuinely ********.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Did this ****** just call Diablo 2 a ****** game?

It is the worst ****** game.

Unlike Diablo 4. Which is the best game.

But this is for a different topic.Focus.

Either bait or genuinely ********.

Both.

[Red7]

Oh, I don't think paying taxes is a good thing at all. If you think taxes are a contribution to society then I have to accede to that guy who called you a Jew.

Yeah I am not on board with the liberturdian garbage of "all taxes are theft". I leave that to teenagers and misguided commies. Taxes are not a contribution to society itself but a consequence of creating that value. Still has nothing to do with the argument though.

only reason taxes exist is to creae illusion they dont fund everything by money printing

once u kill printers taxation becomes almost entirely impossible as they cant wage wars and u can run away to low/no tax state

[Red7]

So you're fundamentally defining social value as money. Okay.

No, I am not defining anything. Society has agreed upon measuring value in money many thousand years ago. That is the world we live in. What are you going to do about it? Call it Jewish?

money is not measure of value but religion based proxy for status/chain of command and because we still got energy scarcity/energy price driven economy/ its also proxy for energy
technically money has no definition tho, its religious slogan.

[Decline]

money is not measure of value but religion based proxy for status/chain of command and because we still got energy scarcity/energy price driven economy/ its also proxy for energy
technically money has no definition tho, its religious slogan.

That is what some people make out of it. But money is and always has been a measure of value.

only reason taxes exist is to creae illusion they dont fund everything by money printing

Any sufficiently advanced society requires money in order to function. The reckless printing of money serves a couple of things, one is to devalue money so it is easier for them to get hold of your assets.

once u kill printers taxation becomes almost entirely impossible

No taxation continue to happen and your juvenile liberturdian fever dreams will never come to fruition because they - just like the ideas of commies - do not work.

[Red7]

money is not measure of value but religion based proxy for status/chain of command and because we still got energy scarcity/energy price driven economy/ its also proxy for energy
technically money has no definition tho, its religious slogan.

That is what some people make out of it. But money is and always has been a measure of value.

notions of value is subjective and often irrelevant long term. hierarchy and its consequences is what matters.

only reason taxes exist is to creae illusion they dont fund everything by money printing

Any sufficiently advanced society requires money in order to function. The reckless printing of money serves a couple of things, one is to devalue money so it is easier for them to get hold of your assets.

not really, most advanced aliens dont use commerce internally and more territorial species use barter. market economy do not take place in more advanced, fully automated civilisations as they are less internally competetive and only limitation of production are raw resources with no labour or constant energy cost.

as long u got idiots tho, money religion is great tool to prevent them from wasting resources/make em poor. the less homogenic species is in terms of its quality the more restrictive hierarchy it requires. its why we need bitcoin and low iq normie trash must die off

once u kill printers taxation becomes almost entirely impossible

No taxation continue to happen and your juvenile liberturdian fever dreams will never come to fruition because they - just like the ideas of commies - do not work.

nah u are just ******** normie with no clue whats coming. may space tigers take pity on u cause **** and myself wont

[Red7]

You are right, going from "modders are parasitic losers, that because of inherent inability and/or lazyness cannot create real games and cannot make money off of their supposed talent" to "having an outcome with your profession so as to not live parasitically off the society that supports you" is not just modifying your argument, but completely changing the subject.

No it isn't. If you are unable to make money because of your laziness or inability you are bound to live a parasitic lifestyle. If you cannot even comprehend this simple logical connection, there is no reason for me to entertain your garbage here any further.

But hey, if you see nothing wrong with admitting how much you value monetary compensation over actual contributions to society...then there is no need to dwell on it.

Earning a lot of money is identical to 'an actual contribution to society' or at least it is that way in the utopian case. But what has that even to do with the argument? Absolutely ******* nothing!

Apparently you struggle with comprehending even simple sentences. So let's try an example: @Brother Chad. He is fairly ideal: He is a one-man-game-shop. He could be a lazy parasitic loser doing total conversion mods. But he isn't. He decided to make his own games. For that he needs to be paid, otherwise he cannot continue. Can you understand this? And while pondering this, is Brother Chad making 'a contribution to society'?

You ******* communist.

Did someone say unable and lazy?

u should take pride of being unemployed, nothing hurts jewish ponzi fake job ecoonomy driven scheme more than not wagekuking
beside buying bitcoin ofc

ppl need to understand that most jobs are waste and doing nothing is much better than wasting resources to suspend illusion of being desired slaves.

[Decline]

notions of value is subjective and often irrelevant long term. hierarchy and its consequences is what matters.

The notion of value is as subjective as the notion of truth, there is absolute truth hence there is absolute value. What you deem value has no bearing on what is value. This is the crucial thing you communists just cannot understand. Because you are too stupid. And that is why **** are winning. The **** tell you a thing and you believe it. They tell you that money is le bad and you believe it. They tell you that communism is le gud and you believe it. They tell you that everything is subjective and morality is important you believe it.

not really, most advanced aliens dont use commerce internally and more territorial species use barter.
market economy do not take place in more advanced, fully automated civilisations as they are less internally competetive and only limitation of production are raw resources with no labour or constant energy cost.

Great, interstellar space communism. If communism fails on earth well surely it must work in the entire universe
Anyway, If those supposedly most advanced aliens don't use commerce internally they are stagnant and weak and we should conquer and rule them.

money religion

Money is a tool first and foremost.

its why we need bitcoin and low iq normie trash must die off

You can turn anything into a religion, communism for example.

its why we need bitcoin and low iq normie trash must die off

Yes, go ahead.

nah u are just ******** normie with no clue whats coming. may space tigers take pity on u cause **** and myself wont

"Space communism WILL work and you will be eaten by space tigers!"

u should take pride of being unemployed, nothing hurts jewish ponzi fake job ecoonomy driven scheme more than not wagekuking

No. It doesn't. It just hurts yourself and your people. The **** are delighted that you don't work just like they are delighted that you don't understand money and favor space communism instead.

@rusty_shackleford the discussion about space communism is as hilarious as it is out of place here, can you tell one of your jannies to split it into a different thread titled maybe 'decline explains money or why you are probably a stupid space communist'

[Stack of Turtles]

The notion of value is as subjective as the notion of truth, there is absolute truth hence there is absolute value. What you deem value has no bearing on what is value. This is the crucial thing you communists just cannot understand.

Communists believe in objective value (labor theory of value), you weirdo

[Decline]

The notion of value is as subjective as the notion of truth, there is absolute truth hence there is absolute value. What you deem value has no bearing on what is value. This is the crucial thing you communists just cannot understand.

Communists believe in objective value (labor theory of value), you weirdo

No they don't. I mean some of them probably believe that they do, at least those that post about space communism.

[Red7]

notions of value is subjective and often irrelevant long term. hierarchy and its consequences is what matters.

The notion of value is as subjective as the notion of truth, there is absolute truth hence there is absolute value.

no point in exchange with someone ******** enough to say **** like that. its like 0 common sense or information logic baseline understanding and u type it on machine that only reason it can operate is because truth/defined state exist and can be computed on.

[Red7]

btw no self respecting kazarian jew ever work honest day in their life unless u count ******* and eating kids as work
work is for slaves

rich ppl embrace automation only obsolete slaves cry about it

[Decline]

its like 0 common sense or information logic baseline understanding and

The irony.

u type it on machine that only reason it can operate is because truth/defined state exist and can be computed on.

Precisely. A computer works because there is absolute truth regardless of the result value of a human made algorithm. Otherwise it would be impossible to construct.

btw no self respecting kazarian jew ever work honest day in their life unless u count ******* and eating kids as work
work is for slaves

Thanks for giving an example [for my argument that people who don't work lead a parasitic lifestyle.

rich ppl embrace automation only obsolete slaves cry about it

Yes, it is called being a luddite and they can cry all they want, they're going to perish.

The only thing that can stop the inevitable advance of technology is a theocracy with full spectrum dominance that simply outlaws by threat of immediate execution the use of any and all technology.

[logincrash]

Rusty, I like you. Well, maybe I don't like you. But I don't hate you. But you see... you are naive.

People like Statesmen or the demon girl, they do not belong. They should not be here.

And you know that is the truth. Deep in your heart you know that is the truth.
We are made in the image of God and God is the truth. The truth is always in our hearts.

Yet you decide to overrule your heart.
You admit the lie.
Because you cling to this fantastical idea of 'freedom of speech' or at least that is what you tell yourself.

There is no 'freedom of speech'. It is an illusion.
The reality is that these people, they live the lie. They breathe the lie. They are the lie.
Any freedom you give these people they will corrupt it and use it against you. And us.
They want to destroy. And that is why there cannot be 'freedom of speech'. Because it will inevitably lead to the destruction of what is.

And you know that is the truth as well. But you decide it isn't so.

This place has gone from a hopeful fresh start to the verge of destruction in 1 1/2 years.
In the same time it has made the news and is now besieged by enemies from all sides.
I guess it is an expected cycle?

Do you really think the enemy will not send his people here? To destroy this place from within?

Don't be naive.

I only ever warn once.

[Xenich]

Oh, I don't think paying taxes is a good thing at all. If you think taxes are a contribution to society then I have to accede to that guy who called you a Jew.

Yeah I am not on board with the liberturdian garbage of "all taxes are theft". I leave that to teenagers and misguided commies. Taxes are not a contribution to society itself but a consequence of creating that value. Still has nothing to do with the argument though.

A lot of taxes are absolute theft. Property tax is a scam and unconstitutional developed by lairs, cheats, and is commie ****.

Some things are needed, but if you were to truly implement taxes as what they should be for the things they are constitutionally intended, they would be very little.