Loghain was the good guy, actually.

[logincrash]

Don't mind me, just wanted to post a couple of comfy Thedas maps.

[fkirenicus]

Also, there is this https://bendingwind.bitbucket.io/ - while unofficial, it is quite good and the graph/hex option is a nice way to determine distances. I have used this quite a lot in my tabletop DA campaign.

[Reichspepe]

Don't mind me, just wanted to post a couple of comfy Thedas maps.

Luv me maps, simple as

[Big Red Dog]

Loghain starts with an L

[Silvanus]

Does Dragon Age ever mention apostates attempting to escape to the Tevinter Imperium (or, if not, why they wouldn't be able to do this)? I have some faint recollection but it's been a long time. This seems like it could've made for a fun plot before the series ended up in the gutter.

[logincrash]

Does Dragon Age ever mention apostates attempting to escape to the Tevinter Imperium (or, if not, why they wouldn't be able to do this)? I have some faint recollection but it's been a long time. This seems like it could've made for a fun plot before the series ended up in the gutter.

I think DA2 had a side quest about mages trying to run away to Tevinter. They got caught because of the blood GPS the Chantry uses to track apostates.
Another one in 2 is a half-elf mage kid who has Freddy Krueger powers. He can escape to Tevinter depending on your choices in that quest.
Also, as much as the mages are respected in Tevinter, it's still a slaver society with an anti-Pope. And that's a huge minus, optics-wise, considering that Andraste, the woman the predominant faith is named after, led slave rebellions. So a lot of people including mages are too fearful and distrusting of Tevinter to even consider doing there.
And Thedas is a medieval fantasy land. There's no safe teleportation magic, thus travelling all across the continent from Ferelden with the Templars magically tracking you is a task too daunting for most mages.

[fkirenicus]

Does Dragon Age ever mention apostates attempting to escape to the Tevinter Imperium (or, if not, why they wouldn't be able to do this)? I have some faint recollection but it's been a long time. This seems like it could've made for a fun plot before the series ended up in the gutter.

As logincrash stated above.
Also, this is in fact the very core of the mage alliance quest of Inquisition: the rebel mages have turned themselves over to emissaries of the Tevinter Imperium - only to realize that they are about to get ****** with red lyrium spikes.

[The_Mask]

Kinda shocked how many people did not view Loghain as a strict voice actor upgrade for their party.

This is a prestigious comment.

[rusty_shackleford]

Recently became aware that the book The Masked Empire confirms that the Empress of Orlais was trying to marry Cailan to turn Ferelden into a vassal state of Orlais.
Loghain was 300% right.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

>Loghain was the good guy, actually.


The **** kind of nonsense is this Put down the gungi pal and say no to drugs.

[Tweed]

Loghain bros can't stop winning. Too bad you can't get him till late.

[Schizoid1488]

The issue is that BioWare just makes it nonsensical to ever spare Loghain and side with him over Alistair, if you are a gigachud patriotic fereldan noble he has done irreversible damage to the country and has personally went out of his way to try ruining your life multiple times over, if you are a goodhearted sissy then it makes no sense to side with someone as chuddy as him. If Loghain was a better fighter and strategist, and actually kept his sharpness and greatness that they describe of his past, then it'd be worth keeping him, but if we stayed on course with his "plans", Ferelden would inevitably be conquered by the Dark Spawn Sub-Saharan immigrants. He's just a ****** past his prime that NEEDS to be put down like a rabid dog.

[fkirenicus]

Recently became aware that the book The Masked Empire confirms that the Empress of Orlais was trying to marry Cailan to turn Ferelden into a vassal state of Orlais.
Loghain was 300% right.

Well, that depends on what one considers the worse ruler; Urthemiel or Celene.
Of course, Loghain did not know about the former, so in his mind things were - at least until "the darkspawn incursion" proved to be quite a lot more than that - clear.
But he had set a course at Ostagar he couldn't change, even when he learnt the truth about what was happening.
It was either victory against Eamon and his allies, or death. Which he well knew could come at the hands of the darkspawn anyway.

[BosanskiSeljak]

@Finarfin @Reichspepe @bosniakseiak
More like the truth hurts lmao! even morrowind tut npc like fargoth is more Memorable!!

Much more Adorable, still recall his quest chain after all yrs that ring lol also the guy who falls from teh sky is more intresting to me
Pretty muc heverything about dargon age is Derivative the devs set out to make Game, had no clue and said lets maek baldurs gate 2 that popular!
We got shitt like:
Leilana is imoen, same haircut and pink hair, same forgettablepersonality
Boring va like the one from tv show Rome with horse teeth
Main enemy char race is like orcs but more Boring also wit hfull plate carier that dosnt stop blows lmao
Tehy tried to make same gameplay as baldurs gate 2 but out of ideas no Cool mage duels also the main attacks system is just Bad
But with MORE BLOOD like jam in faces to atract Dumbest crowd who only want graphic Mature conent
Also really dumb ads ran on internet its llike beginning of "games are movies" trend with drama no Gameplay just running clashing armies wow thedrama
Alaso as some other Say teh devs like gameofthrones made by sea elephant on scooter, so tehy try to capt that feeling just... Derivative no thought of theri own just sux
Just edgy shitt for small minds, add baldurs gate 2 but more sux, more shallow syustem of combat

I thought we all agreed 20 years ago to not feed the trolls on the internet.. This bait is so obvious it's painful to read

Lol

Enough ******** on dargonage sorry to say, but its a Bad Game, maybe its good if you like Derivative stuff like npcs ingame lol my King is fighting in front line, lets type like 5 pages of boring to read texta bout it

Dont want to say Tes3 Morrowind is flawles sbut its much better, more thought out Systems, like butes, star signs etc also more Immersive wolrd, more unqiue Setting
Also more phun, not serious darma like dragon age, Im just saying SPEARS and leave liek that

Didn't read more than a sentence, game isn't even worth being in Gothics shadow.

You may address me when you mature and realize TES is the most overrated franchise in history and accept Gothic supremacy.

[Lhynn]

accept Gothic supremacy.

But those controls though.

[BosanskiSeljak]

accept Gothic supremacy.

But those controls though.

Amazing controls.

Intuitive & responsive.

Being able to play that game basically one handed keyboard only isn't something a ****** control system can accomplish. Only touch the mouse to look around when needed.

[Big Red Dog]

loghain was good because he let black ****** demons rape his women to death instead of letting white french guys rape them to death

[fkirenicus]

loghain was good because he let black ****** demons rape his women to death instead of letting white french guys rape them to death

Of course, one can ask what really is the difference between darkspawn and the French yes, or e.g., Yusuf al-Qaradawi vs. Macron and Trudeau. All 3 want to obliterate what is good about the Western world.
That said, the darkspawn aren't black people. They are more like Robin DiAngelo on crack.

[aweigh]

accept Gothic supremacy.

But those controls though.

Amazing controls.

Intuitive & responsive.

Being able to play that game basically one handed keyboard only isn't something a ****** control system can accomplish. Only touch the mouse to look around when needed.

Another benefit of Gothic controls is that they translate fantastically to console. Gothic remaster plays beautifully.

[Lhynn]

accept Gothic supremacy.

But those controls though.

Amazing controls.

Intuitive & responsive.

Being able to play that game basically one handed keyboard only isn't something a ****** control system can accomplish. Only touch the mouse to look around when needed.

Yeah, no, they are not intuitive. Got to hammer your head on a wall until you get used to them.

[Tweed]

But those controls though.

Amazing controls.

Intuitive & responsive.

Being able to play that game basically one handed keyboard only isn't something a ****** control system can accomplish. Only touch the mouse to look around when needed.

Yeah, no, they are not intuitive. Got to hammer your head on a wall until you get used to them.

Takes about five minutes, then it's buttery smooth.

Maybe you have skill issues.

[Lhynn]

Amazing controls.

Intuitive & responsive.

Being able to play that game basically one handed keyboard only isn't something a ****** control system can accomplish. Only touch the mouse to look around when needed.

Yeah, no, they are not intuitive. Got to hammer your head on a wall until you get used to them.

Takes about five minutes, then it's buttery smooth.

Maybe you have skill issues.

I do, Im not as incredible as you, with your perfect motor skills.
To me it was complete and utter ****, and, to me, you come off as a ******** apologist. I imagine I am not alone in my opinion, since Ive seen the same thing be brought up pretty consistently.

[Tweed]

I do, Im not as incredible as you, with your perfect motor skills.

Few are.

[Oyster Sauce]

Loghain+Roguey=Rogaine
think about that

[BosanskiSeljak]

Yeah, no, they are not intuitive. Got to hammer your head on a wall until you get used to them.

Takes about five minutes, then it's buttery smooth.

Maybe you have skill issues.

I do, Im not as incredible as you, with your perfect motor skills.
To me it was complete and utter ****, and, to me, you come off as a ******** apologist. I imagine I am not alone in my opinion, since Ive seen the same thing be brought up pretty consistently.

Your (and others) inability to get used to a simple control system does not mean it is objectively bad.

Being able to play & finish an open world RPG with action combat with one hand on the keyboard is a testament to its effectiveness. That's an objective fact, not being an apologist.

[rusty_shackleford]

gothic was designed for a controller, people thinking it was keyboard is cope

[Lhynn]

Your (and others) inability to get used to a simple control system does not mean it is objectively bad.

Actually, thats sort of what it means.

gothic was designed for a controller, people thinking it was keyboard is cope

Pretty much. I should probably buy one, since my brother took mine a few years ago and I doubt he plans on ever returning it.

[BosanskiSeljak]

Your (and others) inability to get used to a simple control system does not mean it is objectively bad.

Actually, thats sort of what it means.

So many reddit plebs made their way here and this is somehow the most ******** thing I've read so far. Think you're just an old man whose body is withering away Lhynn, gotta start working on that

[Lhynn]

So many reddit plebs made their way here and this is somehow the most ******** thing I've read so far. Think you're just an old man whose body is withering away Lhynn, gotta start working on that

Good controls are not something you "gotta get used to."
Its pure insanity that you would think this is the case. As rusty said, the game wasnt designed for keyboard.

Redditors are the ones that apologize and make excuses for a faulty product, you are being cringe.

[BosanskiSeljak]

So many reddit plebs made their way here and this is somehow the most ******** thing I've read so far. Think you're just an old man whose body is withering away Lhynn, gotta start working on that

Good controls are not something you "gotta get used to."
Its pure insanity that you would think this is the case. As rusty said, the game wasnt designed for keyboard.

Redditors are the ones that apologize and make excuses for a faulty product, you are being cringe.

I phrased it that way because of your (plural) inability to get used to it.

Those of us with functioning motor skills took very little time to figure out the inputs and got to enjoy some of the most fluid, responsive and intuitive controls in any RPG ever.

Fake news about the controller - also irrelevant. It's superior on keyboard.

Were you one of those people who got tripped up trying to use the mouse?