Baldur's Gate 3

[orinEsque]

i am tired of lying fking corporations, and EA players can go off themselves of bridge.

I doubt it would have been hard to code either. This is just ******* lazy.

[fkirenicus]

According to Gygax, female dwarves in D&D have beards.

At least they may have, yes. I cannot recall there's been a definitive statement saying all of them do?
While we're at the topic of dwarves, it may be considered lore-breaking to "whiten" the gold dwarves, as they are in fact a southern variant which do have darker skin than their shield dwarf cousins.
That Larian/the writers have decided to use them rather than shield dwarfs for a lot characters where shield dwarves would have made more sense, is a different matter. I can guess their reasons for doing so, however. Perhaps modding these should include changing them from gold dwarves to shield dwarves, not just edit their skin colours?

[BLofbr]

In act 1 you get your tadpole powers



wHy in the ******* hell do we get it in act 3?

in EA you met dream visitor which is the tadpole, and your story progress and you get other powers.

[Rand]

According to Gygax, female dwarves in D&D have beards.

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

How can you tell when one of Gygax's ideas was stupid or not?
If Ed Greenwood would agree with him, it's stupid.

[fkirenicus]

According to Gygax, female dwarves in D&D have beards.

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

How can you tell when one of Gygax's ideas was stupid or not?
If Ed Greenwood would agree with him, it's stupid.

The objective was probably more making the dwarves truly alien/mysterious compared to humans, than to introduce some "***** movement" in (A)D&D, I think. I don't think neither Gygax nor Greenwood had any ideas in such direction while (A)D&D was controlled by TSR. The downward spiral started in earnest with D&D 4th edition, IMO.

[Vergil]

According to Gygax, female dwarves in D&D have beards.

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

How can you tell when one of Gygax's ideas was stupid or not?
If Ed Greenwood would agree with him, it's stupid.

The objective was probably more making the dwarves truly alien/mysterious compared to humans, than to introduce some "***** movement" in (A)D&D, I think. I don't think neither Gygax nor Greenwood had any ideas in such direction while (A)D&D was controlled by TSR. The downward spiral started in earnest with D&D 4th edition, IMO.

With this *****'s ignore list this thread has probably lost 2/3rds of it's pages.

[Acrux]

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

Not that you are going to like this any better, but the idea originally came from Tolkien (and he may have taken it from other sources). Although he doesn't definitely say that dwarven women had beards, only that the other races thought they did.

[Finarfin]

According to Gygax, female dwarves in D&D have beards.

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

How can you tell when one of Gygax's ideas was stupid or not?
If Ed Greenwood would agree with him, it's stupid.

Nothing wrong with female dwarves having beards. Tolkien himself said female dwarves had them and were indistinguishable

[Rand]

According to Gygax, female dwarves in D&D have beards.

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

How can you tell when one of Gygax's ideas was stupid or not?
If Ed Greenwood would agree with him, it's stupid.

Nothing wrong with female dwarves having beards. Tolkien himself said female dwarves had them and were indistinguishable

Call me what you will, but I am DEEPLY unimpressed with Tolkien's storytelling ability and worldbuilding ideas.

[Acrux]

Yeah, I figured you for that sort.

[Finarfin]

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

How can you tell when one of Gygax's ideas was stupid or not?
If Ed Greenwood would agree with him, it's stupid.

Nothing wrong with female dwarves having beards. Tolkien himself said female dwarves had them and were indistinguishable

Call me what you will, but I am DEEPLY unimpressed with Tolkien's storytelling ability and worldbuilding ideas.

Ok, that just tells me you're *** tho.

[fkirenicus]

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

Not that you are going to like this any better, but the idea originally came from Tolkien (and he may have taken it from other sources). Although he doesn't definitely say that dwarven women had beards, only that the other races thought they did.

Yep, he extensively built upon both norse and finnish mythology, where such things also are mentioned. Not that dwarven women have beards - but that it is believed that they do.

[Vergil]

I praise Gygax for popularizing D&D but he had a lot of very stupid ideas and this is one of them.

How can you tell when one of Gygax's ideas was stupid or not?
If Ed Greenwood would agree with him, it's stupid.

Nothing wrong with female dwarves having beards. Tolkien himself said female dwarves had them and were indistinguishable

Call me what you will, but I am DEEPLY unimpressed with Tolkien's storytelling ability and worldbuilding ideas.

Yea I don't like that he made the bad guys win in LOTR.

[Rand]

Most of the time, throughout most of the history of the LOTR universe, for literal thousands of years in some cases all the gods, demigods, and mortals sat around while the known evildoers were allowed to build strength and power and attack places again and again.

Morgoth: The Valar let this mess go on for an eon with multiple issues where little was resolved until a final banishment, then they didn't follow up with anything else, just left piles of evil creatures around to do whatever they felt like.
Sauron: was alowed to corrupt the Haradrim. Was imprisoned and allowed to corrupt the Numenoreans. Was allowed to bugger off again and do his ring business. Finally semi-defeated, he was ignored in Dol Goldur (an old city of the elves) for 2000 years or so while building power there and in Mordor. And Mordor is within sight of Minas Tirith. The Gondorians even let Sauron take the old capital and another city from them and seemed confused as to whether to fight back or not, even when they believed Sauron to be defeated.
The Witch King: was allowed to build a whole nation of evil to destroy the northwestern kingdoms.

Something like 20 000 years of history where everyone was repeatedly stupid and even the Valar repeatedly let obvious evil fester until it became immense problems, time and again.

The story of The Hobbit is objectively terrible, filled with plot holes and deus ex machina moments, along with inexplicable actions of many of the characters.

Don't even get me started on the nonsense of Tom Bombadil.

The worldbuilding beggars belief. Most things seem to be decided not on the basis of what makes any sense for characters to do, but "so the story can happen".

[Vergil]

Mairon is pretty and authoritarian whilst the hobbits are hairy toed manlets that's all that really matters at the end of the day.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The Valar really were scumbags.

Finwe's wife dies. She can choose to bodily reconstitute at any time but says "nah", decides to just dwell in the Halls of Mandos as a disembodied spirit and leave her husband without his wife and her son without a mother. Mandos doesn't intervene and just resurrect her. Finwe is now alone again when men aren't meant to be alone, and finds another wife and has another son, ofcourse leading to Finwe's first son Feanor being worried that he is going to be robbed of his birthright, and then he gets harshly banished for expressing his suspicions. Then Morgoth murders Feanor's father, steals the family heirloom, and flees to another continent. Feanor understood that Morgoth was a threat and needed to be dealt with, but what did the Valar do? Nothing. They do not care about enacting justice upon a murderer and thief who was one of their number, nor do they care that evil is amassing across the sea. Feanor decides to deal with Morgoth with our without the cowardly, complacent Valar's help, but then comes across a group of ostensible allies who mysteriously refuse to aid him, not just in his quest for justice and restitution but also to save everyone from being conquered and destroyed by Morgoth. Feanor realized what was happening: these coastal elves were in league with Morgoth. The beleaguered Feanor was placed into the impossible task of either detouring to a land bridge, giving Morgoth more time to amass his forces and kill more elves in the impending war, or dealing with these traitors and sailing across the sea. THEN the Valar finally decide to do something! Are they finally going to help? Nope. They place a generational curse upon the elves. Feanor was betrayed time after time again, the cities of people ruined and countless elven lives lost in the struggle against the rogue Valar. Only after generations of such tragedy did the Valar finally decide to let go of their petty grudge against Feanor and do what they should have done in the first place.

[Lhynn]

Something like 20 000 years of history where everyone was repeatedly stupid and even the Valar repeatedly let obvious evil fester until it became immense problems, time and again.

They knew of evil and did not do anything to stop it?
Yes, how would such a thing happen in real life? Evil is squashed as soon as it shows up in our world, never allowed to fester anywhere. Evil appears, and its swiftly dispatched. Simple as.

ITS SOOOO UNREALISTIC.

[rusty_shackleford]

80% of playthrus that made it to act 3, including ones with no romance, romanced a female companion. Even if we split the rest evenly between women/gays and say there were no playthrus that romanced nobody(obviously not true), all that effort — probably more overall than heterosexuals at this point — for a tiny minority.



Also, 93% of people played as a custom character. Origin characters were also obviously a complete waste of time. And barely more than 10% of players played as dark urge, when a large part of the main story was crafted around it.
What a fantastic waste of resources all around. Instead of, you know, finishing the ******* upper city.

[rusty_shackleford]

No No this is pure ******* ******** it is in the EA version of BG3

i am tired of lying fking corporations, and EA players can go off themselves of bridge.

FYI in the earliest builds of the BG3 early access you could get into grymforge. I managed to do it, it involved dying during the boat fight to grymforge except one of my characters stayed at camp. IIRC, I had to kill the character before the fight started, then inject an osiris call to resurrect my character during the fight then fail the fight with the other characters. I could then bypass the fight and go to grymforge.
I never explored it.

Also, if you're playing early access, do me a favor and go to the witch's hut and loot all the containers, especially ones upstairs.

In act 1 you get your tadpole powers



wHy in the ******* hell do we get it in act 3?

in EA you met dream visitor which is the tadpole, and your story progress and you get other powers.

The same person they hired after EA launched to do the awful romance writing also rewrote the main story.

[BLofbr]

[Vergil]

Early access Shart wants to stab you and retail Shart wants Halsin to stab her.

[BLofbr]

Lol so many idiots on internet.

[Reichspepe]

Early access Shart wants to stab you and retail Shart wants Halsin to stab her.

Good morning,

I hate Shadowwhore.

[BLofbr]

******* ****, i got the earliest build and grymforge isnt implemented into the game..

[BLofbr]

Sorry, i didnt think my post was interesting or not, ill reposst. Consequences for killing guards.

[rusty_shackleford]

early access was a much better game than what we actually got

[BLofbr]

kek, no forced gay Astarion costume too.

[fkirenicus]

early access was a much better game than what we actually got

Is it possible to get this EA version anywhere now?

In fact, I have patch 5 still - I might install that again and stick with it, if I can get NA etc. to work with it.
The "QoL improvements" of patch 6 hasn't impressed me so far...

If I can get my hands on an EA version that is in fact better than the final product, I am definitely willing to try it.

[BLofbr]

Early Ketheric model





The more i look into early access posts and videos the more i want to slap early access players because theyre ******* and Larian picked wrong game testers, i hear some say daddy Halsin.


Jahiera mid left, ketheric and ****** king and to left mother of someone.

[rusty_shackleford]

******* ****, i got the earliest build and grymforge isnt implemented into the game..

It was, I don't know how completed it was tho. See my prior post about glitching in.


my post at the time:

You need a way to revive a dead party member by themselves. I don't know of a good way to do it, so I used cheatengine to inject a revive call to the Osiris API.
You start the underdark boat fight, one char jumps off, get teleported dead to your camp, revive them somehow, then have the others jump off and revive them typically. Rest, because you'll have another fight.
Go back to the beach after resting, kill the duergar, take the skiff again, it takes you to the duergar camp.