D&D Edition Wars

[Tweed]

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This is D&D now? This?

These people have never played a tabletop game in their lives and I'm not sure they even know what a tabletop looks like.

[Jordy]

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This is D&D now? This?

Can't wait to start a campaign where a tavern doesn't have a disability ramp as required by the Faerun building regulations and we get to shut them down until a ramp is installed!

[LemonDemonGirl]

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This is D&D now? This?

What South Park Episode is this from?

[Xenich]

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This is D&D now? This?

Oh FFS! I can count how many ******* play D&D on one hand and still have fingers left over.

[Rand]

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This is D&D now? This?

Oh FFS! I can count how many ******* play D&D on one hand and still have fingers left over.

Ah, but the players are irrelevant.
It's the black fetishists writing that are the only people that matter. (I'd say black writers as well, but aside from Mike Pondsmith (who is actually based) I've never heard of any.)
The 21st century: where the writers are considered more important than the shareholders or customers!
"You'll like the slop we give you or you're an ista-phobe!!!"

[rusty_shackleford]

Rob Kuntz, the last living author of the OD&D material, is not happy with WotC's 50th anniversary preface.

[Acrux]

What does the preface say? I don't find anything about it specifically.

[rusty_shackleford]

What does the preface say? I don't find anything about it specifically.

[fkirenicus]

What does the preface say? I don't find anything about it specifically.

Not that I will buy a D&D 6e (nor 5.5/2024) anyway, but from now on it'll be pirating or buying used stuff of 3.5 as well. Not a single dime more into the pockets of these DEI psychopaths at WotC.

[Zothique]

What does the preface say? I don't find anything about it specifically.

All I'm reading here is "Stranger Things gave us the Jewish opening we needed to sell slop to normies, and now we are a virtuous company only. Please black people, buy our ****!"

[Rand]

What does the preface say? I don't find anything about it specifically.

Despicable ***-clowns.
They should be barred from RPGs and taken out somewhere and literally scourged for a day.

[Kalarion]

Rob Kuntz, the last living author of the OD&D material, is not happy with WotC's 50th anniversary preface.

JD has been talking to Rob on Twitter and apparently Rob is considering suing for slander/libel (who knows whether that's actually going to happen of course).

[Rand]

Hard case to prove in the USA.
Hasbro will probably give them legal funding, too.

[fkirenicus]

Hard case to prove in the USA.
Hasbro will probably give them legal funding, too.

I would say "speak for yourself" to the DEI sycophants who have written the foreword. If slavery and misogynism were parts in their own games, that's a problem they should sort out themselves, rather than blame everyone else who played (A)D&D in the "early days" (pre-WotC). Slavery was never a part in any games/campaigns I ran or was a player in, and there was absolutely no difference whatsoever between female player characters and male ones. Granted, player characters are not the common people of the world, so in a fantasy medieval setting there were big-bosomed serving wenches (that's a term in literature and historical fact, not intended as "derogatory" or "dehumanizing" or what else the libtards think) who could be quite seductive - or, they could be "bit players" that said nothing except "what'll it be" and then fetch the beverage in question (mostly beer, given the fantasy medieval setting).

What the WotC f**kheads have done here is basically **** upon the grave of Gary Gygax, Dave Arneson and the others, and try to rewrite history where now there never was a "true, inclusive" D&D until now. I really hope mr. Kuntz sues their asses off.
And I strongly encourage those who know the libtards who wrote this sh**t to make sure these f**kers don't get to write any obituaries - they'll probably **** upon their friends' graves too, if they can make money by doing so.

[Zothique]

Apparently this is going about the Xitter landscape today...

[rusty_shackleford]

Apparently this is going about the Xitter landscape today...

He's right.
The answer to the accusation of "You are sexist/racist/homophobic/bigoted/etc.," is: Yes.

[Xenich]

Apparently this is going about the Xitter landscape today...

Brilliant!

Ahh, the age when men weren't weak assed whiny little *****.

[UltraFan123]

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This is D&D now? This?

If you had told me that the first picture from the top was from some randomass MARVEL "What if..?" version of Storm, I would have believed you. lmfao

[Xenich]

Every DM I've met that has run Generic Fantasy Superhero RPG the 3rd Point X ******** has said the same thing. If you don't have the skill/feat you can't do the action.

How do you climb a wall as a fighter in AD&D?

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Hint: You can't. It's a thief-exclusive ability. It was expanded to all classes in 2E, much like say... a skill system?

What you're advocating for is nothing more than theater with the occasional dice roll.

It used to be allowed by our games, but... it was done as "unskilled" which meant that if they attempted, they were rolling multiple failure sub rolls that are normally handled with a single skill success.

So, normal thief climbs a wall and it is a simple skill check roll, and he climbs the wall (unless specified by the module or GM due to special circumstances).

With the unskilled, they had to roll to be able to even start the climb, then had to make numerous dex and negative skill checks (wall type, weight distribution, individual hand reach and hold checks, etc...) on the way up (with an expanded critical failure range). The reality was that unless that person had fixed dice, the odds of them not falling (and doing so in a manner that resulted in a much more serious consequence than a skilled climber) was exceptionally rare.

It got to the point where the GM would say "You are not skilled, would you still like to try?" and it was an immediate... "no thanks... pass" by the players who knew. I mean, it was possible to succeed, but not very likely.

[UltraFan123]

What does the preface say? I don't find anything about it specifically.

Not that I will buy a D&D 6e (nor 5.5/2024) anyway, but from now on it'll be pirating or buying used stuff of 3.5 as well. Not a single dime more into the pockets of these DEI psychopaths at WotC.

Even before the extreme pozzlification of current DnD, I was only interested in 3.5 edition anyways because I felt that the mainstream 5e was way too "dumbed down" for my nerd taste.

Now i likewise only get myself 3.5 edition and some 1st Pathfinder edition on the side.

[Zothique]

Apparently this is going about the Xitter landscape today...

He's right.
The answer to the accusation of "You are sexist/racist/homophobic/bigoted/etc.," is: Yes.

I agree 100% I think it's really interesting that the dude who created this **** had the mentality then that is desperately needed today.

[Rand]

Hard case to prove in the USA.
Hasbro will probably give them legal funding, too.

I would say "speak for yourself" to the DEI sycophants who have written the foreword. If slavery and misogynism were parts in their own games, that's a problem they should sort out themselves, rather than blame everyone else who played (A)D&D in the "early days" (pre-WotC). Slavery was never a part in any games/campaigns I ran or was a player in, and there was absolutely no difference whatsoever between female player characters and male ones. Granted, player characters are not the common people of the world, so in a fantasy medieval setting there were big-bosomed serving wenches (that's a term in literature and historical fact, not intended as "derogatory" or "dehumanizing" or what else the libtards think) who could be quite seductive - or, they could be "bit players" that said nothing except "what'll it be" and then fetch the beverage in question (mostly beer, given the fantasy medieval setting).

What the WotC f**kheads have done here is basically **** upon the grave of Gary Gygax, Dave Arneson and the others, and try to rewrite history where now there never was a "true, inclusive" D&D until now. I really hope mr. Kuntz sues their asses off.
And I strongly encourage those who know the libtards who wrote this sh**t to make sure these f**kers don't get to write any obituaries - they'll probably **** upon their friends' graves too, if they can make money by doing so.

I still don't see the problem. Fantasy worlds are going to have rampant slavery, just like the real world.

[UltraFan123]

I still don't see the problem. Fantasy worlds are going to have rampant slavery, just like the real world.

I legit asked what the issue was in a lefty discord server I used to frequent, and the only excuse I received was "the topic may trigger some people so it's better to pretend slavery never existed in any fictional setting".

Like wtf, the topic is supposed to be banned in fictional media yet lefties sure love to bring the topic over and over again in the real world when they yell about "reparations" for stuff that happened over a century ago. lol

[Xenich]

Hard case to prove in the USA.
Hasbro will probably give them legal funding, too.

I would say "speak for yourself" to the DEI sycophants who have written the foreword. If slavery and misogynism were parts in their own games, that's a problem they should sort out themselves, rather than blame everyone else who played (A)D&D in the "early days" (pre-WotC). Slavery was never a part in any games/campaigns I ran or was a player in, and there was absolutely no difference whatsoever between female player characters and male ones. Granted, player characters are not the common people of the world, so in a fantasy medieval setting there were big-bosomed serving wenches (that's a term in literature and historical fact, not intended as "derogatory" or "dehumanizing" or what else the libtards think) who could be quite seductive - or, they could be "bit players" that said nothing except "what'll it be" and then fetch the beverage in question (mostly beer, given the fantasy medieval setting).

What the WotC f**kheads have done here is basically **** upon the grave of Gary Gygax, Dave Arneson and the others, and try to rewrite history where now there never was a "true, inclusive" D&D until now. I really hope mr. Kuntz sues their asses off.
And I strongly encourage those who know the libtards who wrote this sh**t to make sure these f**kers don't get to write any obituaries - they'll probably **** upon their friends' graves too, if they can make money by doing so.

I still don't see the problem. Fantasy worlds are going to have rampant slavery, just like the real world.

The entire A1 series about stopping the "evil" slave lords who were razing villages and capturing innocents.

For them to have a problem with it, shows they have no clue about what the modules were, the stories, etc...

I wonder if WotC ever took the time to even read anything prior to their own garbage when they took over the license?

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[UltraFan123]

We can see a similar issue with the modern-day handling of the Pathfinder 2e by Paizo, and in this case I wouldn't be able to tell if it's worse because the ones currently in charge of the world of Golarion should know that slavery was always portrayed as an objectively bad thing - despite the unapologetically woke nature of the overall setting - and yet the ones in charge still continue retconning and gaslighting about how these bad stuff never existed.

Same with "problematic" races like drow and deep folk in general. And even the word [Race] itself is being doxxed. lmfao

[maidenhaver]

Slavery should be treated matter of factly, in any setting. That is, men, boys, and babies are killed or sacrificed, while the women and bigger girls are taken as slaves. That's just how it was always done in war. It was rare to spare men.

[Zothique]

I still don't see the problem. Fantasy worlds are going to have rampant slavery, just like the real world.

I legit asked what the issue was in a lefty discord server I used to frequent, and the only excuse I received was "the topic may trigger some people so it's better to pretend slavery never existed in any fictional setting".

Like wtf, the topic is supposed to be banned in fictional media yet lefties sure love to bring the topic over and over again in the real world when they yell about "reparations" for stuff that happened over a century ago. lol

Yeah I grew up seeing human farm equipment toilin in dem fieldz. Too traumatic to think about now...

What a bunch of ******* loose curtain pussies.

[fkirenicus]

Any more news from Kuntz on this matter?

[WaterMage]

Now every D&D race is human now :

[Nemesis]

RPGPundit brings up good points in his videos, but you have to sit through so much whining to get to them.