'Looking for a game' thread

[Vergil]

I think World of Warcraft has some water-based spells and summons, but am not sure.

I remember playing the trial for WoW as a mage and being made fun of for my water elemental

[DagothGeas5]

I think World of Warcraft has some water-based spells and summons, but am not sure.

I remember playing the trial for WoW as a mage and being made fun of for my water elemental

Did you wreck them all later with torrent abilities and the likes? I think I recall the water elementals being incredibly tanky. Also my favourite besides those the Warlocks summon

[ArcaneLurker]

If you have any game that has water magic, feel free to recommend one to me

And no, by "water magic" I dont mean "ice magic" or "frost magic"
Those are two different vibes, and I will die on the hill of "water magic and ice magic are not the same"
I'm looking for water specifically

Games I played so far and had some, so recommendations wont repeat themselves:
- Divinity Original Sin II - Hydrosphist, mix between ice and water, but passable with some mods people have created overtime
- GW2 - Elementalist, although it's a mix between ice and water not always to my liking + the class is kinda weak and forces you to swap between elements
- Elden Ring - 2 spells that are water related
- Perfect World International - Psychic class has water spells, played this game for years and tbh it's hard to find something similar in other games
- Forsaken World - servers closed, and with them my Water Bard ceased to exist, and is brought back only as an echo in BG3 chasing that high of playing as Water Bard ever since
- Warframe - ofc I'd main Hydroid and Yareli for water-theme
- Dark Souls III - the whole Deep Sorcery is also passable, as narratively and thematically it is deep (water) related
- Skyrim with water spells mod - Skyrim is **** so I didnt replay it for long
- Genshin Impact - I have every Hydro character that has been released so far, including Neuvillete with his signature weapon

Perhaps @WaterMage might know a thing or two

Tbh if RPGHQ made a community game on Unreal engine, it'd be cool to have water magic like water bending/ blood bending from Avatar.
I know many people here would want something topdown/ isometric, but as a normgroid, I like ragdolling wookies in the Force Unleashed.

Also, the ATB-system in FF7R is the best thing about the game surprisingly, it'd be fun to see that style of combat inspire other games.

[Vergil]

I think World of Warcraft has some water-based spells and summons, but am not sure.

I remember playing the trial for WoW as a mage and being made fun of for my water elemental

Did you wreck them all later with torrent abilities and the likes? I think I recall the water elementals being incredibly tanky. Also my favourite besides those the Warlocks summon

No I stopped being gay and made a paladin instead.

[DagothGeas5]

I remember playing the trial for WoW as a mage and being made fun of for my water elemental

Did you wreck them all later with torrent abilities and the likes? I think I recall the water elementals being incredibly tanky. Also my favourite besides those the Warlocks summon

No I stopped being gay and made a paladin instead.

Putting it in a spoiler as it might be offtopic:

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I have not played WoW in years, and only ever played private servers, how are Paladins these days if you still play? I intermittently watch Asmongold and others' old videos, and it seems they dumbed down everything with Legion or something.

[Magick]

I think World of Warcraft has some water-based spells and summons, but am not sure.

I remember playing the trial for WoW as a mage and being made fun of for my water elemental

Lol rightly so.
Should have specced fire like a real man.

[Vergil]

Did you wreck them all later with torrent abilities and the likes? I think I recall the water elementals being incredibly tanky. Also my favourite besides those the Warlocks summon

No I stopped being gay and made a paladin instead.

Putting it in a spoiler as it might be offtopic:

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I have not played WoW in years, and only ever played private servers, how are Paladins these days if you still play? I intermittently watch Asmongold and others' old videos, and it seems they dumbed down everything with Legion or something.

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[DagothGeas5]

No I stopped being gay and made a paladin instead.

Putting it in a spoiler as it might be offtopic:

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I have not played WoW in years, and only ever played private servers, how are Paladins these days if you still play? I intermittently watch Asmongold and others' old videos, and it seems they dumbed down everything with Legion or something.

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[WaterMage]

And no, by "water magic" I dont mean "ice magic" or "frost magic"

Some :

City of heroes


Gothic 2/3 -> HAs frost spells but also geyser, hailstorm and etc
Might & Magic VI/VII/VIII - Has some frost spells but also poison spray, water walk and acid beam sspells. Ice = frost water.
VtMB -> Blood magic -> Blood is close enough
PF:KM & PF:WoTR -> Hydrokineticist

In general, water is the most used element in RPG. BG2 has Fire, Earth and Air elementals but no water elementals.

[ArcaneLurker]

IMO magic that controls temperature should be separated from magic that controls matter of varying levels of density

[Slavic Sorcerer]

And no, by "water magic" I dont mean "ice magic" or "frost magic"

Some :

City of heroes


Gothic 2/3 -> HAs frost spells but also geyser, hailstorm and etc
Might & Magic VI/VII/VIII - Has some frost spells but also poison spray, water walk and acid beam sspells. Ice = frost water.
VtMB -> Blood magic -> Blood is close enough
PF:KM & PF:WoTR -> Hydrokineticist

In general, water is the most used element in RPG. BG2 has Fire, Earth and Air elementals but no water elementals.

**** I forgot about Gothic series, even though i grew up on it.
I played Gothic 2: Night of the Rave. I spammed Water Fist just for fun of watching it go. Last time I played this Gothic 3 mess was a little over a decade ago, and stopped cause I couldnt stand how the NPCs were made
I payed WoTR too. Completely forgot about it due to Owlca's spyware fiasco

City of Heroes reminded me of DC Universe online. I might come back to it, although the game is boring as ****

Blood Magic is close enough, yeah

Thanks for the recommendations. If something more pops up, feel free to mention me

[Vergil]

Are there any RPGs where being a vampire is both viable and more than just flavor/a class/a glorified stat besides VTMB and bethesda games (mostly with mods)?

[Oyster Sauce]

If you have any game that has water magic, feel free to recommend one to me

And no, by "water magic" I dont mean "ice magic" or "frost magic"
Those are two different vibes, and I will die on the hill of "water magic and ice magic are not the same"
I'm looking for water specifically

Games I played so far and had some, so recommendations wont repeat themselves:
- Divinity Original Sin II - Hydrosphist, mix between ice and water, but passable with some mods people have created overtime
- GW2 - Elementalist, although it's a mix between ice and water not always to my liking + the class is kinda weak and forces you to swap between elements
- Elden Ring - 2 spells that are water related
- Perfect World International - Psychic class has water spells, played this game for years and tbh it's hard to find something similar in other games
- Forsaken World - servers closed, and with them my Water Bard ceased to exist, and is brought back only as an echo in BG3 chasing that high of playing as Water Bard ever since
- Warframe - ofc I'd main Hydroid and Yareli for water-theme
- Dark Souls III - the whole Deep Sorcery is also passable, as narratively and thematically it is deep (water) related
- Skyrim with water spells mod - Skyrim is **** so I didnt replay it for long
- Genshin Impact - I have every Hydro character that has been released so far, including Neuvillete with his signature weapon

Perhaps @WaterMage might know a thing or two

Noita lets you flood entire areas with rain clouds and just drown everything.

[WaterMage]

Thanks for the recommendations. If something more pops up, feel free to mention me

There are also mods

For example, Skyrim has the water magic mod which got incorporated into elemental destruction(also adds wind and earth)



The druid for Dark Souls 3 Convergence has a lot of life manipulation/poison and water magic spells, there is also a cryomancer class which is great and can cast avalanches, and ice spears.

And Returning 2.0. for Gothic 2 which allows you to play as an water mage



edit : I would say DDO but Water Savant Sorcerer is closer to a cryomancer than a hydromancer.

Are there any RPGs where being a vampire is both viable and more than just flavor/a class/a glorified stat besides VTMB and bethesda games (mostly with mods)?

Mount & Blade -> Legacy of the Dragon mod.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

Thanks for the recommendations. If something more pops up, feel free to mention me

There are also mods

For example, Skyrim has the water magic mod which got incorporated into elemental destruction(also adds wind and earth)



The druid for Dark Souls 3 Convergence has a lot of life manipulation/poison and water magic spells, there is also a cryomancer class which is great and can cast avalanches, and ice spears.



And Returning 2.0. for Gothic 2 which allows you to play as an water mage



edit : I would say DDO but Water Savant Sorcerer is closer to a cryomancer than a hydromancer.

Are there any RPGs where being a vampire is both viable and more than just flavor/a class/a glorified stat besides VTMB and bethesda games (mostly with mods)?

Mount & Blade -> Legacy of the Dragon mod.

I used that Waterbender mod in Skyrim
Maybe I'll give Skyrim a go again, but good god, after the first playthrough I'd prefer watching paint dry
This is the only RPG game that didnt prompt me to make several characters to have different playstyles and themes

This convergence mod would fit my Druid fantastically. Dark Souls III already has deep sorcery I'm a fan of

[DagothGeas5]

Are there any RPGs where being a vampire is both viable and more than just flavor/a class/a glorified stat besides VTMB and bethesda games (mostly with mods)?

Sacred has a Vampiress character, which aside from being able to switch between the mortal form of a knight and vampire form, has its own personal questline (hidden I believe) where you hunt down the one that made you into a vampire, but aside from this, presently nothing more comes to mind besides modding a game to be darker (the sims 4 for example, but it feels empty to me) or playing straight up tabletop (World of Darkness). I think there is a vampire mod for Cyberpunk, but unless it has updated since I last checked, it only added flavour things and abilities.
One that, though, I think you know already, is Baldur's Gate 3 by playing as Astarion as an Origin character. I only tested the Act 1 a little, but it came closer to anything else I can recall with dialogue, subterfuge, etc. If they make an "afterwards" DLC, would be great to stalk the city as him during the night.
All in all, would love to know as well if there is any game that adds more depth to something that has so many roleplaying opportunities.

[Vergil]

Sacred has a Vampiress character

As an addendum I would like to add I will never play as a female character and female vampires in particular disgust me

One that, though, I think you know already, is Baldur's Gate 3 by playing as Astarion as an Origin character.

I still haven't done an Astarion origin playthrough. I was pretty disappointed that having ascended Astarion turn you results in zero visual changes or really any special dialog and all you get is the (admittedly pretty useful) bite ability.

[DagothGeas5]

Sacred has a Vampiress character

As an addendum I would like to add I will never play as a female character and female vampires in particular disgust me

One that, though, I think you know already, is Baldur's Gate 3 by playing as Astarion as an Origin character.

I still haven't done an Astarion origin playthrough. I was pretty disappointed that having ascended Astarion turn you results in zero visual changes or really any special dialog and all you get is the (admittedly pretty useful) bite ability.

I am finding no videos on this, so I am starting to fear they removed it from the release version of the game, but this is an example from Early Access of what Astarion can do as choices. It is very similar to Dark Urge from what I recall.

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I am sure he had this and more when I tested him in the release version, if it was removed I would be surprised, and disappointed yet again, by this game.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

If you have any game that has water magic, feel free to recommend one to me

And no, by "water magic" I dont mean "ice magic" or "frost magic"
Those are two different vibes, and I will die on the hill of "water magic and ice magic are not the same"
I'm looking for water specifically

Games I played so far and had some, so recommendations wont repeat themselves:
- Divinity Original Sin II - Hydrosphist, mix between ice and water, but passable with some mods people have created overtime
- GW2 - Elementalist, although it's a mix between ice and water not always to my liking + the class is kinda weak and forces you to swap between elements
- Elden Ring - 2 spells that are water related
- Perfect World International - Psychic class has water spells, played this game for years and tbh it's hard to find something similar in other games
- Forsaken World - servers closed, and with them my Water Bard ceased to exist, and is brought back only as an echo in BG3 chasing that high of playing as Water Bard ever since
- Warframe - ofc I'd main Hydroid and Yareli for water-theme
- Dark Souls III - the whole Deep Sorcery is also passable, as narratively and thematically it is deep (water) related
- Skyrim with water spells mod - Skyrim is **** so I didnt replay it for long
- Genshin Impact - I have every Hydro character that has been released so far, including Neuvillete with his signature weapon

Perhaps @WaterMage might know a thing or two

• Trails: One of the seven elements is water, which includes water and ice arts. Water arts typically heal but there are some damaging water arts where you shoot jet streams of water. You could build a character to specifically reduce the cost and AT delay of their water spells if you want to play as a water mage. However, water arts have never been the meta element. In Sky, Aerial, White Gehenna, and Death Scream dominate. In the Crossbell games, Lord Inferno dominates. In the Cold Steel games, you usually want to either spam death/time arts or use the Lost Arts to one shot everything, and in Kuro the death/time arts once again reign supreme.
• Suikoden: the series allows you to equip elemental runes which gives you access to spells. The third game, Suikoden 3, allows one of the three protagonists to acquire the True Rune of Water, which is one of the most powerful runes and makes them into a powerful water magician.
• Vantage Master: You can conjure water summons who travel very quickly over water, and cast a spell to raise or lower the map's water level to enable/inhibit the movement of yours or the enemy's water/ground forces. The designs of the monsters were pretty cool. I liked being able to summon fishbowl monsters.
  
  
  
  
• Final Fantasy 11: has damaging water spells, and you could acquire equipment to boost the power of water magic. FF12 also had damaging water spells and a water summon, but I don't think there was any equipment or license board talents you could pick to specifically boost the power of water magic.
• Tactics Ogre: There were a plethora of damaging water spells. I can't remember if it was possible to make builds that specifically enhanced water magic.
• On the Ascension WoW private server, you can pick just water spells and acquire enchants that specifically boost the power of them. You could make a water themed character.
• I think one thing about Guild Wars 2 you might have overlooked is that the Elder Dragon themed legendary weapons change the aesthetic of some of your abilities. If you have Soo-Won's legendary weapons equipped, some of your class' attack animations/effects are are replaced with water themed effects and trails, but the Untamed class is bugged and will still show the generic green goo animations. However, this being a legendary weapon, it is rather expensive to acquire.

I think World of Warcraft has some water-based spells and summons, but am not sure.

Mages specced into Frost can summon a permanent Water Elemental pet, but you only get the one model. Ascension WoW made many elemental mobs tameable, so you get more models to choose from.

Did you wreck them all later with torrent abilities and the likes? I think I recall the water elementals being incredibly tanky. Also my favourite besides those the Warlocks summon

No I stopped being gay and made a paladin instead.

Putting it in a spoiler as it might be offtopic:

► Show Spoiler

I have not played WoW in years, and only ever played private servers, how are Paladins these days if you still play? I intermittently watch Asmongold and others' old videos, and it seems they dumbed down everything with Legion or something.

I mained Prot paladin during Dragonflight. I was able to use the new talent tree to remove some button bloat by consolidating/merging abilities. It is also very easy to play because you get so many powerful defensive cooldowns that you can be constantly rotating. You also have some movement capability with Divine Steed. The only issue with Prot is that a lot of your defensive mitigation is tied to standing inside your Consecration AoE which you lay down on the ground, and certain boss mechanics can remove you from the protection of that Consecration (like Oakheart's grab in Darkheart Thicket).

Retribution paladin (the DPS spec) can also be built to be very easy. I talented mine so that I merged a bunch of abilities and made my crusader strike into an autoattack, so I didn't have to constantly mash buttons every second. I actually had time to look away from my hotbar and save other people by throwing out my utility spells on them. Another nice thing about Ret this expansion is that you can talent it to increase the range of its abilities, and allow you to deal your rotation at midrange rather than just melee. That's really nice in PvP too. Lastly, ret paladin this expansion has some cool fire themed abilities like Truth's Wake.

I haven't touched Holy paladin since Legion, when it was a Warhammer Age of Reckoning esque battle healer that wanted to whack enemies in melee to heal his teammates.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

I think one thing about Guild Wars 2 you might have overlooked is that the Elder Dragon themed legendary weapons change the aesthetic of some of your abilities. If you have Soo-Won's legendary weapons equipped, some of your class' attack animations/effects are are replaced with water themed effects and trails, but the Untamed class is bugged and will still show the generic green goo animations. However, this being a legendary weapon, it is rather expensive to acquire.

I didnt overlook really. I want one of those weapons for my Elementalist, but holy **** thats a lot of work

Your comprehensive list is fantastic. Trails in the Sky and Suikoden caught my eye so I might check them out. Thank you so much ^_^

[DagothGeas5]

Are there any games like the old Prince of Persia one in terms of 2D view and graphics, oriented preferably towards puzzle solving?


I always loved the atmosphere it has, and this sort of graphics and use of sounds is something that I dearly miss from just about anything that is around these days. The closest one that comes to mind is an old Disney game about Hercules
https://www.gog.com/game/disneys_hercul ... ion&r=true

[WhiteShark]

Are there any games like the old Prince of Persia one in terms of 2D view and graphics, oriented preferably towards puzzle solving?

I've had this game recommended to me before:

I haven't played it but I know it's a lot of mystery and puzzle solving in a big underground ruin.

[DagothGeas5]

Are there any games like the old Prince of Persia one in terms of 2D view and graphics, oriented preferably towards puzzle solving?

I've had this game recommended to me before:

I haven't played it but I know it's a lot of mystery and puzzle solving in a big underground ruin.

Looks very interesting, thank you for sharing!

[DagothGeas5]

(Sorry for double post)

I am looking for a flash game I remember playing many years ago. It was about some sort of dragon (?) and the art style was similar to something from Dark Souls, yet it was a web game on somewhere like Armorgames.com .

The game was an endless flying thing, where your dragon-thing would have to beat huge insects and monsters that looked like abominations. I recall the boss fight with one had pieces flying off, like carapace, and something that was quite brutal, but there was no blood, just cool effects. I do not recall if there was sound.

The point of view was from behind the dragon-thing you used.

I did not speak Enlgish back then, but I recall the game to be in English (UI and the likes) and though I believe there was a story or dialogue, I was just there to see the flying mechanic and how dynamic the pieces were (the sort of "move your mouse, and the tail will follow as if it's liquid" physics-thing).

[gerey]

Are there any games like the old Prince of Persia one in terms of 2D view and graphics, oriented preferably towards puzzle solving?

Flashback - very good game, and I'd argue an evolution over what PoP had to offer. Features the same slower-paced, methodical platforming, but expands the gameplay with a lot of new gadgets to aid in exploration and puzzle solving. The narrative is also far more prominent.

Another World - predecessor to Flashback, far more primitive and almost solely focused on the platforming.

Blackthrone - action game made by Blizzard of all people. Far more action focused than PoP.

Deadlight - somewhat similar to PoP, at least when it comes to the platforming, also a much more recent game. Takes place during a zombie apocalypse.

Trliby: The Art of Theft - stealth platformer where you go on heists and use the money you earn to buy new gadgets. Freeware and very fun game.

[Eorlairn]

Are there any games that incorporates a dynamic AI-system somewhat similar to the Nemesis System in Middle-earth Shadow of Mordor/War?
In which procedurally generated NPCs remember interactions with the player and adapts accordingly within their parameters. More or less turning into unique personality of their own.

Not sure if I’m describing it correctly.

[Oyster Sauce]

Are there any games that incorporates a dynamic AI-system somewhat similar to the Nemesis System in Middle-earth Shadow of Mordor/War?
In which procedurally generated NPCs remember interactions with the player and adapts accordingly within their parameters. More or less turning into unique personality of their own.

Not sure if I’m describing it correctly.

https://dwo.co.il/the-patent-protection ... of-mordor/

[rusty_shackleford]

Are there any games that incorporates a dynamic AI-system somewhat similar to the Nemesis System in Middle-earth Shadow of Mordor/War?
In which procedurally generated NPCs remember interactions with the player and adapts accordingly within their parameters. More or less turning into unique personality of their own.

Not sure if I’m describing it correctly.

https://dwo.co.il/the-patent-protection ... of-mordor/

Only reason the patent itself was approved was most likely because it was filed prior to the Alice decision. Game mechanics aren't protected by patents. If you want to read further on this subject, this is a very good article on the topic:
https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/ar ... atent.html

To answer @Eorlairn's question: Yes, such a game does exist, and it was made by Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed Odyssey, the kitchen sink action RPG.
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/assa ... /000062259
It's not exactly the same, but it's obviously lifted from the Mordor games.

[WhiteShark]

In which procedurally generated NPCs remember interactions with the player and adapts accordingly within their parameters. More or less turning into unique personality of their own.

Dragon's Dogma has something similar for allies rather than enemies. Players make 'pawns', hireable follower NPCs who adapt to the way you play and remember things from their experiences with you and other players.

[DagothGeas5]

To answer @Eorlairn's question: Yes, such a game does exist, and it was made by Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed Odyssey, the kitchen sink action RPG.
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/assa ... /000062259
It's not exactly the same, but it's obviously lifted from the Mordor games.

I heard conflicting things about Odyssey wether it is woke or not, should I give it another try? This nemesis system, though I do not recall seeing it in-game, seems very interesting (Personally, only good thing I recall when playing that game, that felt nothing like Assassin's Creed, was the sea shanties. I also recall the first free roam mission I found was a woman that was a descendant of a mythical hero, yet she **** talked him for being a **** father or something, plus I believe she had a "girlfriend" and that there was no option to disagree with her in dialogue.).

Dragon's Dogma

How is the second one? I saw Robbaz play it, but it seemed to be full of woke and "diversity" hires (and I think there is a mod here to remove such idioicies), but aside from that the pawns system did really look very good, made it almost look like a normal game without "Inclusivity" rot.