Metal Gear Solid

[DDC]

He used child soldiers (which despite misconception Big Boss never actually did) and only went against the patriots because he personally didn't like being controlled. His extreme selfishness had the unintended benefit of possibly being better for others.

Those child soldiers would have just grown up corrupted by the mass media through the S3 plan so Solidus did them a favor. Better to die free on the battlefield than live as a mental slave to the patriots.

[Vergil]

Those child soldiers would have just grown up corrupted by the mass media through the S3 plan so Solidus did them a favor. Better to die free on the battlefield than live as a mental slave to the patriots.

I think living in the 90s/00s is better than getting raped and killed at 12 years old in Liberia personally.

[DDC]

But MGS time (in technology terms) is about 20 years ahead of IRL time, so life under the S3 plan wouldn't have been like our 90s/00s. We are only now seeing what it is like to live under such a system, and the result is children being transed, forced lockdowns and experimental vaccination for minor flu, etc. What I mean by that is that some years ago, Google and other tech companies started deploying algorithms to manipulate public opinion (and many of the longread articles that were written at the time about this have been scrubbed from the internet), and now that those algorithms have been in place for a while, we can look at the current state of our society to see exactly what it was that Solidus was fighting against and just how dangerous the S3 plan was.

[KnightoftheWind]

I'm starting to think Metal Gear fans live in a different, bizarro world. This has gotta be the most overrated franchise in all of cinema gaming. The stealth mechanics aren't even that in-depth, it's just "avoid guards" or "tranq them and dump their bodies in a locker". The likes of Splinter Cell and Thief utterly DECIMATE MGS in the gameplay department, it isn't even close. And they do a better job story-wise too, because the lead writer/director isn't a pretentious hack.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I'm starting to think Metal Gear fans live in a different, bizarro world. This has gotta be the most overrated franchise in all of cinema gaming. The stealth mechanics aren't even that in-depth, it's just "avoid guards" or "tranq them and dump their bodies in a locker". The likes of Splinter Cell and Thief utterly DECIMATE MGS in the gameplay department, it isn't even close. And they do a better job story-wise too, because the lead writer/director isn't a pretentious hack.

Never got the hype for MGS but at least it is a little weird so it has style. I can think of much more overrated series, such as The Last of Us.

[Element]

I'm starting to think Metal Gear fans live in a different, bizarro world. This has gotta be the most overrated franchise in all of cinema gaming. The stealth mechanics aren't even that in-depth, it's just "avoid guards" or "tranq them and dump their bodies in a locker". The likes of Splinter Cell and Thief utterly DECIMATE MGS in the gameplay department, it isn't even close. And they do a better job story-wise too, because the lead writer/director isn't a pretentious hack.

Never got the hype for MGS but at least it is a little weird so it has style. I can think of much more overrated series, such as The Last of Us.

The first was alright, mostly carried by the va and 'acting', although the world building was horrendous

[Oyster Sauce]

The likes of Splinter Cell and Thief utterly DECIMATE MGS in the gameplay department

MGS is a Tactical Espionage Action series with bossfights, puzzles, a ridiculous amount of toys in the sandbox for approaching situations, and big shooty sections. Splinter Cell barely had functional combat until the games started to ******* suck and here's why that's a good thing!

[Segata]

The plot was unimportant

This is why MGS3 was good.

[Vergil]

The likes of Splinter Cell and Thief utterly DECIMATE MGS in the gameplay department

MGS is a Tactical Espionage Action series with bossfights, puzzles, a ridiculously amount of toys in the sandbox for approaching situations, and big shooty sections. Splinter Cell barely had functional combat until the games started to ******* suck and here's why that's a good thing!

You don't understand he was intentionally reductive and boiled the game down to two of its mechanics (definitely can't do this with any game) so it's ****

[Oyster Sauce]

So was Skull Face literally following you all throughout Snake Eater bagging up your poop or was he just manipulating records off-site to cover up your actions? Because if it's the former that may be one of the most ******** details in the entire franchise.

[Vergil]

So was Skull Face literally following you all throughout Snake Eater bagging up your poop

Yes that is the implication. It also directly contradicts Snake Eater where Snake was supposed to leave some minor evidence of America's involvement to prove to the Soviet's it was really them who killed the Boss.

[Oyster Sauce]

So was Skull Face literally following you all throughout Snake Eater bagging up your poop

Yes that is the implication. It also directly contradicts Snake Eater where Snake was supposed to leave some minor evidence of America's involvement to prove to the Soviet's it was really them who killed the Boss.

Thanks I hate it

[Vergil]

Thanks I hate it

This is all in service of a villain who gives a speech to the wrong guy and then gets killed in a cutscene don't forget =)
I'm already a demon

[Vergil]

[DagothGeas5]

I wanted to play the whole franchise for a very long time, but the last time I recall trying to find info on the first one I recall there being multiple versions or something. Is there any way to know where to start to play the original one? Is there something to avoid?

[Vergil]

I wanted to play the whole franchise for a very long time, but the last time I recall trying to find info on the first one I recall there being multiple versions or something. Is there any way to know where to start to play the original one? Is there something to avoid?

So the only one that has different version to avoid is the original Metal Gear from the 80s. If you really want to try those out you want to avoid the NES port of Metal Gear 1. However most people will probably want to just skip to Metal Gear Solid which was the first 3D on PS1.

[Gastrick]

The MSX2 original was pretty fun, couldn't get into the Solid games at all.

[Oyster Sauce]

I wanted to play the whole franchise for a very long time, but the last time I recall trying to find info on the first one I recall there being multiple versions or something. Is there any way to know where to start to play the original one? Is there something to avoid?

So the only one that has different version to avoid is the original Metal Gear from the 80s. If you really want to try those out you want to avoid the NES port of Metal Gear 1. However most people will probably want to just skip to Metal Gear Solid which was the first 3D on PS1.

He could be referring to the Twin Snakes remake of MGS1, which basically everyone hates. It's the only version I've played.

[Element]

I wanted to play the whole franchise for a very long time, but the last time I recall trying to find info on the first one I recall there being multiple versions or something. Is there any way to know where to start to play the original one? Is there something to avoid?

I think you're talking of MGS, which did get a remake for the gamecube, but I haven't heard anything good about it and you already have the original released on the pc, so no point in running the inferior version on an emulator. There are two games in the metal gear series that predate metal gear solid, but you could avoid them until you reach the fifth game.

[Vergil]

I wanted to play the whole franchise for a very long time, but the last time I recall trying to find info on the first one I recall there being multiple versions or something. Is there any way to know where to start to play the original one? Is there something to avoid?

I think you're talking of MGS, which did get a remake for the gamecube, but I haven't heard anything good about it and you already have the original released on the pc, so no point in running the inferior version on an emulator. There are two games in the metal gear series that predate metal gear solid, but you could avoid them until you reach the fifth game.

Some how I completely forgot about Twin Snakes. I wouldn't recommend it over the original. It's basically MGS2 inside the levels of MGS1 and is extremely unbalanced. Not to mention the (imo) worse revoiced dialog. The cutscenes are also much maligned but if you play it after the original I think you can enjoy how over the top and goofy they are.

[Segata]

Some how I completely forgot about Twin Snakes. I wouldn't recommend it over the original. It's basically MGS2 inside the levels of MGS1 and is extremely unbalanced. Not to mention the (imo) worse revoiced dialog. The cutscenes are also much maligned but if you play it after the original I think you can enjoy how over the top and goofy they are.

The atmosphere of the original is also ruined despite having more "advanced" graphics. It removed all color to make every room grey.

[Oyster Sauce]

Featuring Tess™ from The Last of Us™ Remastered

[Vergil]

I liked all the backpedaling people who said purists are being hyperbolic and that the gameplay will be identical after this latest trailer showed animations and moves straight out of MGSV.

[Oyster Sauce]

I liked all the backpedaling people who said purists are being hyperbolic and that the gameplay will be identical after this latest trailer showed animations and moves straight out of MGSV.

The first gameplay shown had crouch walking though

[Vergil]

The first gameplay shown had crouch walking though

That was "one tiny change" and people were crazy for extrapolating that there will be other major gameplay and balance changes based off of that. Or using the 3DS version as cope.

[Oyster Sauce]

The first gameplay shown had crouch walking though

That was "one tiny change" and people were crazy for extrapolating that there will be other major gameplay and balance changes based off of that. Or using the 3DS version as cope.

I'm all for it. Controlling Snake himself in 3 wasn't anything special, it was the multitude of ways you could interact with the enemies and environment. As long as the bad guys are tuned up as well of course.

[Vergil]

I'm all for it. Controlling Snake himself in 3 wasn't anything special, it was the multitude of ways you could interact with the enemies and environment. As long as the bad guys are tuned up as well of course.

The game will be **** easy just like MGSV then and people will pretend and larp as having played MGS3 after playing Weenie Hut Snake Eater Jr.

[Oyster Sauce]

I'm all for it. Controlling Snake himself in 3 wasn't anything special, it was the multitude of ways you could interact with the enemies and environment. As long as the bad guys are tuned up as well of course.

The game will be **** easy just like MGSV then and people will pretend and larp as having played MGS3 after playing Weenie Hut Snake Eater Jr.

MGS3 had the tranq gun and instant melee takedowns too. Hope they don't bring back the ******** slowmo aimhacks when you get caught.

[bloodedhunter]

MGS3 was the only game in the series that I felt like completing because it wasn’t a boring drag with one of the worst locations in the series like MGS2 was with the stupidly named “Big shell”.

The story was actually interesting for a plot around a prototype Rex iteration that for some reason required an airstrip run to sufficiently launch an ICBM.

[Vergil]

MGS2 had a boring uninteresting plot but MGS3's James Bond plot was deep and interesting to you?