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Anon wrote: May 1st, 2024, 19:19
Nope, and it'll still take some years at least to be released, it's a single developer and he's doing it at his own pace.
Pretty sure this is a skyrim mod.
And it isn't a solo developed project. They even have a human-resource-list in their discord.
And the guns were shared by a russian modder Decline Down.
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Finished From the Darkness recently and played a bit more of Godsworn, on higher difficulty this time.

FtD is unintentionally hilarious on a second play-through. Why is that: The bad guys do not harm the player at any point in time so there isn't any threat. It is just a creepy atmosphere and a few jumpscares.

Godsworn is more strategical than I initially thought. Can't remember if it was a review or a comment on the forums who said it, but yeah, the game revolves around mid- to late-game skirmishes. And it matters what the army composition is. They slightly differ depending on the hero choice. In particular with a late-mid or late-game building which is unique to each.
Heroes also feel unique and they have their distinct play-styles. E.g. Ausrine can easily go for neutral camps with her Charm ability, Meness can safely go for raids on enemy bases with his teleport one.
The still requires more polish and the addition of more heroes and, imo, units, but it is already quite enjoyable.
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ur getting old
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I'm playing Hades 2. Feels inferior to the first one. Weapons feel clunky. Powers don't really fit together or feel consequential. The times I've had a good run have involved getting a specific upgrade that wasn't tied to or supported by others.

Leaned a little too much into some forced grinding.
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Finished Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. It's far more demanding than Paper Mario when it comes to timing, which I didn't like, and if not for rewinds I'm not sure I would have completed it. I did like how there's no analog aspect, and how you can buy badges that give you a damage boost that scales with how many mushrooms you have in your inventory which makes the miniboss gauntlet at the end a relative breeze to get through. The last three bosses are designed with it in mind though so they forced me to go through the timing ordeal a bit.
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The new Mists of Pandaria remix is pretty packed.

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Turned that Horde base into pink mist.

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Finished Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne. Liked the music and the style, but the encounter rate was exhausting. I switched to easy mode for the last dungeon because it was just too much and the bosses had become incredibly aggravating and would have normally required lots of grinding. Even then I almost wiped out on the last boss, ha.
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Between Legion IX missions I am playing Gray Matter. I think I am half way through and really enjoying it. Pretty traditional adventure game. Only issue I got with it right now is that sometimes the requirements to end a day are a bit strict and require you to interact with every single object in each location.
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@herkzter - I remember you (?) being interested in Dread Delusions, so here's my opinion on it. tl;dr it's shit, don't bother, the only worthwhile aspects are the exploration, but you can get that from any Bethesda game. This feels more like a sketch of what the game was supposed to be, rather than a finished product.

Woke content - not much, at least by today's standards. There's a bunch of swarthy people around, strong women in position of power, the antagonist feels more like a protagonist than you do (she finds the magic McGuffin, gathers a party of unique weirdos to her side and is trying to fulfill a prophecy - meanwhile you're a poor schmuck pressganged into going after her). Only instance I found is that an old god of life is referred with a "they" pronoun, but since said god is reputed to be a deformed, disgusting abomination that spreads mutations everywhere it goes, I'm not sure what the devs were trying to say here.

THE GOOD

Premise: The setting is a combination of magitek and steampunk, with a dash of more modern concepts thrown in. The gist of it is that 400 years before the start of the game a cataclysm of unknown origin rendered the surface of the planet uninhabitable, leaving the scant few humans up on the Skylands (floating islands, basically) as the sole survivors.

40 years before the start of the game the God War took place, where all the human states banded together to overthrow the gods that ruled over them, in which they succeeded. Now the Union, the new human government, is hunting down the few remaining gods and their servants via the Inquisition, of which you are the newest recruit of.

I generally like the setting and how it is laid out, the game presents you with quite a few mysteries and questions that you slowly get answers to, or at least some notion of what is going on.

The factions are all reasonably logical in their behavior, and the game does a good job of illustrating that both have a point - the gods were oftentimes cruel in their demands, but they also provided things that the human government is struggling to offer .

As an example, the main point of contention on the first landmass is that the population is starving, the Union government is having difficulties delivering food supplies, so people have begun worshiping a god again in hopes that the crops could get better.

Map: When designing the map the devs obviously took notes from the likes of Bethesda. The main "city" for the first landmass is in a central location, with quests and points of interest you can see in the distance encouraging you to explore in every direction, and along those paths there are numerous other smaller locations, buildings, dungeons, NPCs etc. that pull you away and get you to explore further. It's a well-executed loop.

As your progress further in the map slowly opens up, and you get access to fast-traveling mechanics (teleportation buildings and mirrors), which helps cut down the tedium of running across the map so often.

EDIT: A caveat here is that while the points of interests are properly positioned, the rewards for exploring them are usually underwhelming. You can sometimes find a unique item, which is good, but usually it's just more potions or items exclusively for trade. Also, while many locations have "puzzles", these mostly consists of finding candlesticks, busts or paintings that are positioned wrong and activating them, or lockpicking. Even Oblivion's and Skyrim's dungeons are move involved and rewarding than this.

Art direction: You'll either like or hate the low-poly art style the game is going for. I generally like it, and the game does make it work for the most part, but that's generally subjective.

THE BAD

Lack of challenge: Every system the game has in place is undermined by the simple fact the game is not challenging. In my 10 hours of playtime, I only ever died once, and that was because I misjudged a jump and fell to my death, but even that is free of consequences, since the game is littered with "vita chambers" where you instantly respawn upon death without any negative repercussions.

Melee combat has a few mechanics that could be interesting, you can either slash or stab at an enemy, you can block attacks, your attacks cost stamina, enemies themselves can block if they have a shield, but all of this is rendered completely and utterly moot since the go-to solution for any encounter is to just spam your melee attack and walk backwards. You can also sneak and backstab enemies, but again, there's no reason to ever do this when you can just spam attack.

At a maximum you will ever only face 3 to 4 enemies, and regardless of your character build (more on this later) they go down in 2 to 3 hits with your sword, so it's pointless to bother with any finesse, or stealth, or magic, or with ranged weapons - the game being so laughably easy renders all these mechanics completely pointless.

Another problem that plays into this is lack of enemy variety and abilities. In 10 hours I've encountered a grand total of 6 (human enemies - sword, sword & shield, bow & sword, mage, goblin, bigger goblin, butterfly, frogman, tentacle man, floating enemy) "distinct" enemy times. I put the commas there because 4 of those boil down to slowly closing in on your and swinging their melee weapon, while the remaining two fire magical bolts at you (and only that).

It's even worse when you realize that you can just run past nearly all enemies, unless you're within the confines of a dungeon, so almost all combat can be avoided.

Magic: The magic in the game is very underwhelming. There's very few spells, and even less spells that are worthwhile using. There's a few utility ones (return to the last savepoint, advance time), to buff yourself (increasing defense - pointless, increase agility) and a few offensive ones (direct damage and plosion were the only ones I found). In nearly all cases they are useless because, and you guessed it, the game lacks any incentive to use them. The only spells I ever bothered to use were the one to return to a savepoint, the agility one to make longer jumps and occasionally the magic attack spell when I got bored just hacking at enemies.

Quest design: Another issue that ties in with all of the above is that quests ostensibly offer a multitude of approaches, usually giving you the ability to sneak in via a backdoor, or talk your way past, but the stealth approach is pointless since combat is piss easy, while the diplomatic approach is trivialized via items (more on this later).

Another issue is that the dungeons are tiny, very sparsely populated and don't even have anything resembling a boss enemy at the end, the traps are blatantly obvious and in the open (so they can be easily jumped over or bruteforced), so the only reason to ever bother with lockpicking is that the game oftentimes forces you to do so, lacking any alternative ways to get into specific areas. Sometimes you can find an alternative path, or use your other "lockpicking" skill (lore), but oftentimes investing into agility is the only way to progress further.

Quests do allow for multiple solutions, but these rarely affect anything substantial. There are faction meters, but the rewards for being like/loved are underwhelming (a shitty room and a temporary boon for the Union). Also, many quests are incredibly simplistic. As an example, one quest has you go to a massive castle, where the duck is afflicted with a curse, he must suffer in agony for the land to remain fertile. When I enter the castle I'm greeted by the steward, the last remaining retainer, and he tells you that you should drink a truth potion to see past the illusory painting that mask the doors. Imagine my disappointment when I realized this "massive" castle consists of a grand total of four rooms and a staircase, the illusory painting are all the same model and easy to recognize, there are no enemies and the only "challenge" is finding all the statues and activating them (via your lore skill) to access a secret room with a vial of poison, or just put your persuasion hat on and pass a speech check.

The vial of poison you can then either give to the duke to end his suffering (dooming the land to a famine), or to his soon so they both share the agonizing burden. Yet neither of these choices affects anything, you don't get different loot, the map doesn't change afterwards, no new quests are unlocked. It's a completely pointless exercise.

Itemization: I do like how the game handles the equipment. There's very few items, but all are actually distinct and serve a clear purpose, and it's worthwhile to upgrade your equipment. Problem is that the game combines attributes and skills into one, and the only alternative way to raise your skills is via items, which are easy to upgrade. This further removes any aspect of challenge, and completely obliterates the need to actually build your character - why bother investing in might when the combat is easy, just dump your points in the other attributes and make up the difference with items. You met a persuasion check that is too hard? Just put on your persuasion hat on and you can easily pass it. A lock giving you trouble? Just put on your lockpicking hat and voila, you're in.

Another massive issue is how the loot is doled out. I'm all for not flooding the player with items, but the way this game handles it is ridiculous. Your first means of attack is a shitty sword, so if you didn't spec in melee you're a tad fucked (but not really), the first spell you get your hands on is one to charm enemies so they'll fight for you for a few seconds (read: useless), the first ranged weapon I found was a bow, 8 hours into the game, tucked in a random chest in a random building (and no, you can't buy one from a shop).

Basically, the game does not take into account your character build at all, and if the game was even remotely difficult, I could see how it would be immensely frustrating for players that didn't pick the right attributes at character creation.

Why they did it this way I have no idea, other than sheer stupidity.
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Roguey wrote: May 18th, 2024, 16:26
Finished Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne. Liked the music and the style, but the encounter rate was exhausting. I switched to easy mode for the last dungeon because it was just too much and the bosses had become incredibly aggravating and would have normally required lots of grinding. Even then I almost wiped out on the last boss, ha.
The disco ball or the REAL last boss?
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Tweed wrote: May 20th, 2024, 11:52
Roguey wrote: May 18th, 2024, 16:26
Finished Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne. Liked the music and the style, but the encounter rate was exhausting. I switched to easy mode for the last dungeon because it was just too much and the bosses had become incredibly aggravating and would have normally required lots of grinding. Even then I almost wiped out on the last boss, ha.
The disco ball or the REAL last boss?
Disco ball. I don't want to be a demon, I set the world back to the way it was like my grooming teacher wanted.
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Finished playing Archolos, want to write a review on it, but will probably wait until I replay it. Currently playing KoTC I and enjoying it more than I expected. Usually not a fan of isometric or top-down games as I like the exploration in dungeon-crawlers more than the combat focus, but stripping away all the story and ""exploration"" in these games makes it very enjoyable. I also am not that well-versed in DnD 3.5 (or really DnD at all) so it's a fun challenge. Outside of RPGs I finished Pizza Tower, which was an enjoyable platformer that actually used its momentum mechanic well. It's really satisfying to fly through a level as fast as possible. I also finished Half-Life. I did not like Xen as a level but it did have some beautiful set pieces.
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Finished with Super Mario Bros U Deluxe. Mario U's moderately demanding, but gives out plenty of coins and farmable 1-Ups so you don't have to worry about running out of lives. Luigi U has shorter, more demanding levels with a stricter time limit. I ended up getting filtered by world 3, so I had to switch to Toadette for an easier time getting through the rest, though there were still a few levels that gave me quite a bit of trouble. Of course I didn't bother to collect all the star coins to play the star road levels. Pretty fun music as well, I like how the koopas dance along to the vocal parts.
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I've been playing Castlevania Symphony of the Night. Incredible how cryptic and trusting of players to just figure shit out on their own devs used to be.
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Finished one board of Mario Party before calling it quits. I don't like how RNG-dependent it is, and even worse, it gives you the illusion that you can affect your rolls with timing when it's all pre-determined (as I found out through save state reloads). Didn't care too much for the minigames either. I'll give the sequels a chance later on since I hear they're an improvement.
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Something is off with the perspective here, I feel like playing a midget. I didn't feel like that in the beginning, but now...@gerey Does that look normal to you?

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What game is that it looks awesome
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Vergil wrote: May 25th, 2024, 17:17
What game is that it looks awesome
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Tried the Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door remake but dropped it after reaching Chapter 2. I've already played the original multiple times and don't really feel like experiencing the same story again, even if the graphics are better. The game also feels more sluggish to play, and not just because it runs at 30fps (when the Gamecube original ran at 60, fancy that), but because the game outright plays slower. The text can't be ran through as fast, the menus feel a bit slower, even the end-of-battle point tally takes a few seconds longer than it did in the original version. But the cherry on top was the revelation that the character Vivian was a tranny. Yes, that purple shadow blob is apparently a tranny.

I hear this change is actually more accurate to the Japanese release, and if that's true then it's a case of "censorship" being an outright improvement. The game was better off with Vivian as a normal female, and this bit of nonsense does nothing but give a sour taste to the whole thing. I say if you want to play Thousand Year Door, emulate the Gamecube version in Dolphin with an HD texture pack applied. It comes in at around 600mb vs the remake's 8GB, too.
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Went through Aliens vs Predator 2010 on nightmare mode and got through the marine and alien campaigns pretty easily just running and gunning. Nightmare is basically hard mode but you have to complete the level without dying. Gitting Gud at Swarm/nazi zombies mode really paid off because there were nowhere near as many xenomorphs in the campaign.

Alien Campaign:
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Marine Campaign:
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Predator Campaign:
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1998 wrote: May 25th, 2024, 17:06
Does that look normal to you?
Booted up the game and went to the same merchant in the mushroom town and took a couple of screenshots. The PC does appear to the shorter than other human NPCs.

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Vergil wrote: May 25th, 2024, 17:17
What game is that it looks awesome
I wrote a spreg post on it a few pages back. Art direction is pretty nice, it's everything else about the game that is questionable.
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gerey wrote: May 25th, 2024, 18:58
it's everything else about the game that is questionable.
Yea I don't think I could play a game where you have to be a manlet.
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Finished Anno Mutationem, a Chinese cyberpunk trooncore action-adventure. A bit like Dex, though with much better combat. Great art, great soundtrack, smooth gameplay, futuristic city exploration, cool superficial features, this is the kind of thing I go for, though there are a number of things I didn't like: the story's presented in a needlessly confusing manner (and it's ultimately
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, the hacking puzzles are kind of annoying, and there's a lesbo (surprised the CCP would even allow this) who's always yapping in your ear who's quite polarizing. Still had a really good time.

They also patched in a mini-roguelite-shmup bonus game that I went though. Pretty good gameplay, though the story's a bit silly. I liked that it was easy enough for me to complete on my first try. I see the devs are now working on a Chinese-cartoon Star Fox-clone. Not really my kind of game, but I wish them the best.
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A dungeoneering run of Morrowind. All the quest and dungeon mods that I can install without crashing. I learned during installation that TR changed their format. I loved the old bsa registration, because 1) copy-paste to an ini, 2) not many loose files, 3) dipshit niggers can't read and supplied so many dumb fucking posts, 4) you could register the bsa's and use them as an asset library without installing a landmass. The switch broke every mod that used the bsa, so now you need a mod to undeprecate shit and rename things.

If they're turning to focus on womens issues stories and restructuring the mod's foundation, then they are functionally dead.
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maidenhaver wrote: May 26th, 2024, 02:28
A dungeoneering run of Morrowind. All the quest and dungeon mods that I can install without crashing. I learned during installation that TR changed their format. I loved the old bsa registration, because 1) copy-paste to an ini, 2) not many loose files, 3) dipshit niggers can't read and supplied so many dumb fucking posts, 4) you could register the bsa's and use them as an asset library without installing a landmass. The switch broke every mod that used the bsa, so now you need a mod to undeprecate shit and rename things.
OpenMW comes with its own mod manager afaik
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I like openmw, but none of the lua mods I consider essential are supported. Kirbonated Drink, Archimage, VitruvianGuar, a few others gave the game good gameplay.

Also, openmw cs needs a heightmap import/export function.
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Vergil wrote: May 25th, 2024, 19:02
gerey wrote: May 25th, 2024, 18:58
it's everything else about the game that is questionable.
Yea I don't think I could play a game where you have to be a manlet.
Gerey's screenshot are looking OK. Quite sure its just a bug, but a pretty annoying one. (edit: confirmed)

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gerey wrote: May 20th, 2024, 07:44
@herkzter - I remember you (?) being interested in Dread Delusions, so here's my opinion on it. tl;dr it's shit, don't bother, the only worthwhile aspects are the exploration, but you can get that from any Bethesda game. This feels more like a sketch of what the game was supposed to be, rather than a finished product.
Played it a bit more, and yes I agree with most parts. The lack of challenge is not only present in combat but also in other areas of the game. I am supposed to be a thief, disarming traps. Not only are these the most obvious traps of any game I have ever played, but you can also just move past them or hop over. There is no reason why you would even bother with the 1D6 roll.

Exploration however is great, no quest compass, no minimap. You have a compass and a map which progressively completes while you are adventuring. Due to the different floating islands, and with that the high verticality, you can easily navigate and explore without any help. You may actually check some road signs for general directions. Other than that you are typically only given a very rough (and sometimes inaccurate) direction to go. Your walking/running and even crouching speed is very fast, almost feels like playing an FPS. So if you took the wrong turn, backtracking isn't a huge issue.

I just arrived in the Clockwork Kingdom, and this part of the world is distinctly different from previous ones. It's fun just to run around exploring new locations and pushing some quests along.

Two other issues I have:

Actually, I think many side quests only have one solution. I have no charm and no lore, and there are quite a few quests I am almost certain I can't finish any other way. In one instance, the game led me to believe there was a second route, only that this was a dead end and the only way out was jumping to my death. (Divine Captive Quest at Erudite Academy)

Also, I have no idea how the faction system works. I planned to go with the Outlaws, hauled all my Godlets to them and after selling a bunch I was suddenly their enemy. I read on Steam that might be due to killing random bandits on the road, but I don't know.

It's not a good game. But for me at least the exploration makes it worth spending some time with it.

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1998 wrote: May 28th, 2024, 14:09
Actually, I think many side quests only have one solution.
Mostly yes, but a lot of quests that could have an alternative solution are bugged.

I think most of the quests with multiple solutions are frontloaded in the first area, with reactivity and nonlinearity quickly falling off the further in you go into the game.
Also, I have no idea how the faction system works. I planned to go with the Outlaws, hauled all my Godlets to them and after selling a bunch I was suddenly their enemy. I read on Steam that might be due to killing random bandits on the road, but I don't know.
It, uh, doesn't.

Faction system is utterly pointless. The only thing you get is access to an exclusive room if a faction likes you, usually containing a shrine that gives you a temporary boost (that you can trigger again when it runs out).

Also, Outlaws are a bad idea - they have only two quests, making them like you will anger the Union and the cultists factions, and even if the Outlaws like you their agents in the field still attack you. Also, even if you are hated by the Outlaws you can still freely trade with them without any repercussions.

And yes, killing random bandits is what lowered your reputation with them.

IIRC you can't even make them like you using the Godlets, because the feature was bugged (have no clue if they fixed it), so giving them Godlets would actually lower your reputation.
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1998 wrote: May 28th, 2024, 14:09
gerey wrote: May 20th, 2024, 07:44
@herkzter - I remember you (?) being interested in Dread Delusions, so here's my opinion on it. tl;dr it's shit, don't bother, the only worthwhile aspects are the exploration, but you can get that from any Bethesda game. This feels more like a sketch of what the game was supposed to be, rather than a finished product.
Played it a bit more, and yes I agree with most parts. The lack of challenge is not only present in combat but also in other areas of the game. I am supposed to be a thief, disarming traps. Not only are these the most obvious traps of any game I have ever played, but you can also just move past them or hop over. There is no reason why you would even bother with the 1D6 roll.

Exploration however is great, no quest compass, no minimap. You have a compass and a map which progressively completes while you are adventuring. Due to the different floating islands, and with that the high verticality, you can easily navigate and explore without any help. You may actually check some road signs for general directions. Other than that you are typically only given a very rough (and sometimes inaccurate) direction to go. Your walking/running and even crouching speed is very fast, almost feels like playing an FPS. So if you took the wrong turn, backtracking isn't a huge issue.

I just arrived in the Clockwork Kingdom, and this part of the world is distinctly different from previous ones. It's fun just to run around exploring new locations and pushing some quests along.

Two other issues I have:

Actually, I think many side quests only have one solution. I have no charm and no lore, and there are quite a few quests I am almost certain I can't finish any other way. In one instance, the game led me to believe there was a second route, only that this was a dead end and the only way out was jumping to my death. (Divine Captive Quest at Erudite Academy)

Also, I have no idea how the faction system works. I planned to go with the Outlaws, hauled all my Godlets to them and after selling a bunch I was suddenly their enemy. I read on Steam that might be due to killing random bandits on the road, but I don't know.

It's not a good game. But for me at least the exploration makes it worth spending some time with it.

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Watched someone play it for a few minutes, he tried to kill an npc he disliked and couldn't
more emphasis needs to be put on the ability to kill any npc in rpgs, I'd go so far as to consider it to be one of the core aspects of near any good rpg, especially RPGs of this type.
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