Official statement on Steam being pressured to remove offensive content

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

We already got deplatformed from every payment processor just for saying naughty words you ******.

"heh if they follow the law when then YOU will be next!"
no if they followed the law we'd still be platformed. What happens to us is actual censorship, not preventing kids from buying incest rape simulator 9000

If you give an inch to your own enemy you loose a mile. I didn’t think this need to said since it self evident what follows next but I guess it’s lost to some people.

We're not being deplatformed for trying to sell porn to kids but thank you for the concern

That’s beside the point. Having Payment Processors/ activists determine what’s there permissible by there arbitrary moral standards ( content which is not illegal by the government) sets a bad precedent. Be it porn, violent media or speech, etc

Also whey is the parent letting their child unsupervised in viewing/ buying such adult content.

[rusty_shackleford]

Having Payment Processors determine what’s there permissible by there arbitrary moral standards ( content which is not illegal by the government) sets a bad precedent

they're doing it because it IS illegal and they can be held liable for it

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Having Payment Processors determine what’s there permissible by there arbitrary moral standards ( content which is not illegal by the government) sets a bad precedent

they're doing it because it IS illegal and they can be held liable for it

Which laws exactly.

[rusty_shackleford]

Having Payment Processors determine what’s there permissible by there arbitrary moral standards ( content which is not illegal by the government) sets a bad precedent

they're doing it because it IS illegal and they can be held liable for it

Which laws exactly.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1470

this isn't including all the various state laws, including the texas one that the SCOTUS recently found to be constitutional

[Roguey]

udges aren't autistic and won't be fooled. The entire payment processing company can be banned or fined if they allow money to be taken for incest, rape, or child porn anywhere.

Then **** those countries. They can have their own payment processors. Their laws shouldn't affect what happens in my country.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/15/reddi ... new-rules/

Reddit users in the United Kingdom are now required to verify their age as a way to prevent children from accessing inappropriate content.

^ This is the internet authoritarian bootlickers want. Handing their enemies the implements they'll use to beat them.

I want the internet banned and dismantled with nothing left.

You're free to log off.

udges aren't autistic and won't be fooled. The entire payment processing company can be banned or fined if they allow money to be taken for incest, rape, or child porn anywhere.

Then **** those countries. They can have their own payment processors. Their laws shouldn't affect what happens in my country.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/15/reddi ... new-rules/

Reddit users in the United Kingdom are now required to verify their age as a way to prevent children from accessing inappropriate content.

^ This is the internet authoritarian bootlickers want. Handing their enemies the implements they'll use to beat them.

We already got deplatformed from every payment processor just for saying naughty words you ******.

"heh if they follow the law when then YOU will be next!"
no if they followed the law we'd still be platformed. What happens to us is actual censorship, not preventing kids from buying incest rape simulator 9000

Bucket crab mentality. "It happened to me so it should happen to them too" instead of "It shouldn't happen to anyone."

[rusty_shackleford]

Bucket crab mentality. "It happened to me so it should happen to them too" instead of "It shouldn't happen to anyone."

"I got asked to leave a public place so I should support people selling porn to children there"
no

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

they're doing it because it IS illegal and they can be held liable for it

Which laws exactly.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1470

this isn't including all the various state laws, including the texas one that the SCOTUS recently found to be constitutional

You do realize that in order to get those games you have to deliberately lie about your age, so no Steam isn’t knowingly selling games to children.

[Roguey]

Bucket crab mentality. "It happened to me so it should happen to them too" instead of "It shouldn't happen to anyone."

"I got asked to leave a public place so I should support people selling porn to children there"
no

They're not selling porn to children. Kids might be lingering around the store, but they are not the target audience. If they are, like I've been saying, that is a Valve problem. And if Valve had the strictest ID checks I doubt the payment processors would totally be cool with it. That wasn't the aim of Collective Shout, whose goal is to make sure that no one can buy these things at all. And they've made it clear they won't stop there, they would love to take M-rated games away too. Are there only teen-rated games at best in your library?

[RangerBoo]

It annoys me that women think the harms they do to kids don't matter just because it's not often overtly sexual. Sadism towards children is far worse. The worst sexual predators are sadistic ones.

No, no. It is far worse than that. I've had feminists tell me that it is okay for women to abuse their kids because most women today are single mothers that work three jobs and receive no help from their children's dead beat father meaning that these poor women are overworked and under a lot of stress. However, whenever you bring up PEW Research data or FBI crime statistics on the demographic of people more likely to be single moms, have their children grow up in fatherless households, or are the demographic more likely to abuse their kids or have their kids be raised by the streets you instantly get called a racist bigot and then get blocked. These women live in a La La Land were all the evils of the world are only committed by white men and black and brown people can do no wrong. Feminists really are the most buck broken group of people in the world.

[Oyster Sauce]

"You should have to present ID to vote" ****** singing a completely different tune once 11 year old sister rape hentai is at stake

[rusty_shackleford]

You do realize that in order to get those games you have to deliberately lie about your age, so no Steam isn’t knowingly selling games to children.

Requiring ID verification is not considered an unconstitutional burden for access to material deemed obscene for minors
https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/case-f ... -v-paxton/

Holding: A Texas law requiring certain commercial websites publishing sexually explicit content that is obscene to minors to verify that visitors are 18 or older only incidentally burdens the protected speech of adults and survives intermediate scrutiny under the First Amendment’s Free Speech Clause.

They're not selling porn to children.

They are. By being a major platform for E, E10+, and T ESRB rated games — probably having more such games than any other single video game platform — they have positioned themselves as a platform for products aimed at children. Steam actively works to keep their position as market leader of such titles.

Walmart can't just start stocking porn and put up a "You must be 18 years old to enter this aisle" sign. Target etc., is probably already on thin ice with their buttplugs, just nobody went after them(yet).

[rusty_shackleford]

"You should have to present ID to vote" ****** singing a completely different tune once 11 year old sister rape hentai is at stake

That's still up tho

[Orvas Dren]

People here acting like steam is doing this to protect children or something, no its to appease feminists and nanny govs. Homosexual and feminist depravity content will continue unabated. Porn and gooner content will still remain. Your children will still be unsafe. Normally I'm one of the more vocal voices against porn here, but if its just anything that steam feels like pulling for the sake of appeasing hostile parties, then this is going to do nothing to reduce porn or sexual content while opening the gate to further crackdowns on "problematic" content.

[rusty_shackleford]

People here acting like steam is doing this to protect children or something, no its to appease feminists and nanny govs. Homosexual and feminist depravity content will continue unabated. Porn and gooner content will still remain. Your children will still be unsafe. Normally I'm one of the more vocal voices against porn here, but if its just anything that steam feels like pulling for the sake of appeasing hostile parties, then this is going to do nothing to reduce porn or sexual content while opening the gate to further crackdowns on "problematic" content.

Steam is doing it because they have to. Payment processors are doing it because they quickly axe anything that may incur risk.

[Orvas Dren]

People here acting like steam is doing this to protect children or something, no its to appease feminists and nanny govs. Homosexual and feminist depravity content will continue unabated. Porn and gooner content will still remain. Your children will still be unsafe. Normally I'm one of the more vocal voices against porn here, but if its just anything that steam feels like pulling for the sake of appeasing hostile parties, then this is going to do nothing to reduce porn or sexual content while opening the gate to further crackdowns on "problematic" content.

Steam is doing it because they have to. Payment processors are doing it because they quickly axe anything that may incur risk.

most porn games are still up including stuff with similar content to those pulled

[rusty_shackleford]

People here acting like steam is doing this to protect children or something, no its to appease feminists and nanny govs. Homosexual and feminist depravity content will continue unabated. Porn and gooner content will still remain. Your children will still be unsafe. Normally I'm one of the more vocal voices against porn here, but if its just anything that steam feels like pulling for the sake of appeasing hostile parties, then this is going to do nothing to reduce porn or sexual content while opening the gate to further crackdowns on "problematic" content.

Steam is doing it because they have to. Payment processors are doing it because they quickly axe anything that may incur risk.

most porn games are still up including stuff with similar content to those pulled

They probably pulled whatever they were told is in violation

[Acrux]

f you give an inch to your own enemy you loose a mile

Oh no, my enemy is doing what I want. Better not let them.

This is how dumb you are.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

f you give an inch to your own enemy you loose a mile

Oh no, my enemy is doing what I want. Better not let them.

This is how dumb you are.

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[rusty_shackleford]

Do you have a single concrete fact to back up that kids in any significant amount use Steam?

Steam dominates the PC market so we can just use PC gamer statistics as a proxy. Gen Alpha/Gen Z take the top spot for PC as their primary platform:

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https://www.theesa.com/resources/essent ... 2024-data/

We can therefore make an educated guess that minors are a significant source of customers for Steam.

[rusty_shackleford]

Zero Knowledge Proof ID verification already exists, FYI.
https://world.org/blog/policy/a-new-pri ... igital-age
Just so I'm clear, this actually is a solved problem. You don't have to actually give out your identity to verify you're 18+.

I'm not getting paid so I won't be teaching you how this is something that works just like crypto algorithms(because it is), feel free to read more on your own time

[Stack of Turtles]

We're talking about two separate things here, anyway.
Payment processors do not want their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.
I do not think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.

And before some Canadian idiot complains, no, I don't think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund people saying "******" either. It's NOT YOUR MONEY.

[rusty_shackleford]

We're talking about two separate things here, anyway.
Payment processors do not want their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.
I do not think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.

And before some Canadian idiot complains, no, I don't think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund people saying "******" either. It's NOT YOUR MONEY.

Actually, they should be required by force of execution by firing squad to platform anything lawful. Because they wouldn't exist without being a leech on the body of the US government.

[Stack of Turtles]

We're talking about two separate things here, anyway.
Payment processors do not want their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.
I do not think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.

And before some Canadian idiot complains, no, I don't think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund people saying "******" either. It's NOT YOUR MONEY.

Actually, they should be required by force of execution by firing squad to platform anything lawful. Because they wouldn't exist without being a leech on the body of the US government.

Nah, just relax the regulations that effectively grant them a monopoly. It's easier and more efficient for everyone.

[rusty_shackleford]

We're talking about two separate things here, anyway.
Payment processors do not want their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.
I do not think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund incest, rape, or child porn.

And before some Canadian idiot complains, no, I don't think they should be forced to allow their services to be used to fund people saying "******" either. It's NOT YOUR MONEY.

Actually, they should be required by force of execution by firing squad to platform anything lawful. Because they wouldn't exist without being a leech on the body of the US government.

Nah, just relax the regulations that effectively grant them a monopoly. It's easier and more efficient for everyone.

Visa/Mastercard are directly downstream of banks, and therefore entirely reliant upon the relationship between banks and the federal reserve. Therefore, they should be legally required to abide by the first amendment.
Allowing private companies working for the government to run around constitutional protections is a serious issue.

[Stack of Turtles]

Actually, they should be required by force of execution by firing squad to platform anything lawful. Because they wouldn't exist without being a leech on the body of the US government.

Nah, just relax the regulations that effectively grant them a monopoly. It's easier and more efficient for everyone.

Visa/Mastercard are directly downstream of banks, and therefore entirely reliant upon the relationship between banks and the federal reserve. Therefore, they should be legally required to abide by the first amendment.
Allowing private companies working for the government to run around constitutional protections is a serious issue.

I agree, I'm just saying, that relationship should be terminated instead, and then they can be free to do whatever they want.

I want to run my own bank.

[Finarfin]

Do you have a single concrete fact to back up that kids in any significant amount use Steam?

It is against the law if it's even just one. I don't know how to explain this in a way your diseased mind will comprehend.

Additionally, comic book stores, video stores also sell/sold adult material. Libraries where kids check out books will also loan out adult material.

They're legally required to verify the ages of customers before doing so... if they fail to do due diligence in verification, it's a crime.

I remember going to a dvd rental place and there was an adult video section,you couldn't go in there unless you were of age and showed your id. Steam should just add identification tbh

[Stack of Turtles]

Do you have a single concrete fact to back up that kids in any significant amount use Steam?

It is against the law if it's even just one. I don't know how to explain this in a way your diseased mind will comprehend.

Additionally, comic book stores, video stores also sell/sold adult material. Libraries where kids check out books will also loan out adult material.

They're legally required to verify the ages of customers before doing so... if they fail to do due diligence in verification, it's a crime.

I remember going to a dvd rental place and there was an adult video section,you couldn't go in there unless you were of age and showed your id. Steam should just add identification tbh

Like I said in a later post, these are two different things. As I understand it, payment processors do not want their services to be involved in funding pornography depicting rape, incest, or pedophilia, even if it's only distributed to adults. Steam probably will have to add identification after the laws currently in the works in many countries to demand ID checks before displaying porn most likely pass, but that's a separate issue from the payment processors threatening to refuse service for illegal porn.

[Roguey]

Do you have a single concrete fact to back up that kids in any significant amount use Steam?

Steam dominates the PC market so we can just use PC gamer statistics as a proxy. Gen Alpha/Gen Z take the top spot for PC as their primary platform:
Selection_002.webp
https://www.theesa.com/resources/essent ... 2024-data/

We can therefore make an educated guess that minors are a significant source of customers for Steam.

They play crap like Roblox and Fortnite, neither of which involves Steam. Also think it's a mistake for that polling company to roll Zoomers and Alpha together, the youngest Zoom is now 15.

[Oyster Sauce]

If kids don't use Steam then why are so many people romancing children in Blue Archive?

[rusty_shackleford]

If kids don't use Steam, why does it have dedicated parental controls?