Ross Scott's 'Stop Killing Games' Campaign

[rusty_shackleford]

I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work

whiteshark agreed with this meaning he believes this btw
https://news.ubisoft.com/en-au/article/ ... -community

We have put significant effort into ensuring an immersive and respectful representation of Feudal Japan.

When these **** always online racing games get offline modes implemented I'm going to remember this post and I will call you a gay nerd

There's already a fan-made private server being worked on for the first game that will release before I get to laugh at you.

[rusty_shackleford]

**** your pants and do nothing then I guess (this poster believes in voting btw)

You didn't notice how they said nothing about actually having an offline mode for the game they already killed this year? Instead just mentioning the two games that weren't killed yet?
Hint: It's because they're lying.

The iconic Rusty Goalpost Backpedal

What backpedal?
They're not going to implement any offline modes, they said it to sell copies to people with the memory of goldfish.

[Stack of Turtles]

It's funny because Rusty forgot what he was even arguing; it doesn't matter if the devs lied or not, because if a company DID promise to make an offline mode for a game because the fans complained without any laws being passed, that bolsters my argument he was supposedly agreeing with...

[Oyster Sauce]

I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work

wow I didn't know the EU enforcers had invented time travel too, that EU law that hasn't been implemented yet's really paying dividends

Hmm I wonder if the post made by the developers stating that they're going to preserve The Crew because of recent community demands has anything to do with the Stop Killing Games campaign using The Crew as a primary example hmm perhaps we'll never know

[rusty_shackleford]

It's funny because Rusty forgot what he was even arguing; it doesn't matter if the devs lied or not, because if a company DID promise to make an offline mode for a game because the fans complained without any laws being passed, that bolsters my argument he was supposedly agreeing with...

I don't really ever remember what position I'm arguing in favor of.

[rusty_shackleford]

I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work

wow I didn't know the EU enforcers had invented time travel too, that EU law that hasn't been implemented yet's really paying dividends

Hmm I wonder if the post made by the developers stating that they're going to preserve The Crew because of recent community demands has anything to do with the Stop Killing Games campaign using The Crew as a primary example hmm perhaps we'll never know

So why aren't they preserving the game they already killed that started the entire campaign?

[Stack of Turtles]

I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work

wow I didn't know the EU enforcers had invented time travel too, that EU law that hasn't been implemented yet's really paying dividends

Hmm I wonder if the post made by the developers stating that they're going to preserve The Crew because of recent community demands has anything to do with the Stop Killing Games campaign using The Crew as a primary example hmm perhaps we'll never know

"You don't want the EU to make a law about this." "But this completely unrelated thing happened without the EU making a law about it thanks to something else the guy who wants the EU to make laws did that didn't cause the EU to make any laws!"

[Oyster Sauce]

wow I didn't know the EU enforcers had invented time travel too, that EU law that hasn't been implemented yet's really paying dividends

Hmm I wonder if the post made by the developers stating that they're going to preserve The Crew because of recent community demands has anything to do with the Stop Killing Games campaign using The Crew as a primary example hmm perhaps we'll never know

So why aren't they preserving the game they already killed that started the entire campaign?

Don't know and don't care because that has literally nothing to do with this discussion. You're being very gay right now so goodbye.

[rusty_shackleford]

Hmm I wonder if the post made by the developers stating that they're going to preserve The Crew because of recent community demands has anything to do with the Stop Killing Games campaign using The Crew as a primary example hmm perhaps we'll never know

So why aren't they preserving the game they already killed that started the entire campaign?

Don't know and don't care because that has literally nothing to do with this discussion. You're being very gay right now so goodbye.

"the game that the entire campaign is about has nothing to do with the discussion"
I'm telling you right now that if ross went to their headquarters and started busting **** up with a baseball bat, there would be a private server mode for the crew released within the week

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. I understand that this whole stop killing games is futile endeavour but I would think people would like not having there games get a artificial expiration date as good thing.


But apparently that’s not the case here.

[rusty_shackleford]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. I understand that this whole stop killing games is futile endeavour but I would think people would like not having there games get a artificial expiration date as good thing.


But apparently that’s not the case here.

Because I know the EU is limpdick and incapable of doing anything so this is all a feelgood virtue signaling campaign.

[rusty_shackleford]

Reminds me of the 2000th time the EU tried to force google to do something and reddit went on a victory lap then all that happens is the EU takes their protection fee cut to fund their bureaucracy, and not a single thing actually changes.

[Stack of Turtles]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. I understand that this whole stop killing games is futile endeavour but I would think people would like not having there games get a artificial expiration date as good thing.


But apparently that’s not the case here.

I prefer solving problems over fantasizing about solutions that'll only make things worse. It would genuinely be better to completely redirect away from the consumer protection law thing and become an advocacy group promoting the idea that people want to buy games they can keep.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. I understand that this whole stop killing games is futile endeavour but I would think people would like not having there games get a artificial expiration date as good thing.


But apparently that’s not the case here.

Because I know the EU is limpdick and incapable of doing anything so this is all a feelgood virtue signaling campaign.

Doing something that has a chance to succeed is better then doing nothing when dev companies continues to deem whatever game they make as a live service in the future.

Who to say Microsoft doesn’t make all there single player games have a live service aspect that requires a it to be always online which by the way was the original plan for Xbox One.

[rusty_shackleford]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. I understand that this whole stop killing games is futile endeavour but I would think people would like not having there games get a artificial expiration date as good thing.


But apparently that’s not the case here.

Because I know the EU is limpdick and incapable of doing anything so this is all a feelgood virtue signaling campaign.

Doing something that has a chance to succeed is better then doing nothing when dev companies continues to deem whatever game they make as a live service in the future.

Who to say Microsoft doesn’t make all there single player games have a live service aspect that requires a it to be always online which by the way was the original plan for Xbox One.

No, either you need to be willing to break into Ubisoft's office with a katana and threaten to kill them all or make the protagonist japanese, or you're not getting anything done.
I don't make the rules.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here. I understand that this whole stop killing games is futile endeavour but I would think people would like not having there games get a artificial expiration date as good thing.


But apparently that’s not the case here.

I prefer solving problems over fantasizing about solutions that'll only make things worse. It would genuinely be better to completely redirect away from the consumer protection law thing and become an advocacy group promoting the idea that people want to buy games they can keep.

Well I would agree with you if that work.But since advocacy groups does **** all with publishers mostly ignoring for large amount of cases the only option that hasn’t been done yet is by law.

So I’m prefer to do something that has been tried yet and not a route that’s been proven to be ineffective.

[WhiteShark]

I prefer solving problems over fantasizing about solutions that'll only make things worse. It would genuinely be better to completely redirect away from the consumer protection law thing and become an advocacy group promoting the idea that people want to buy games they can keep.

You don't think this movement makes people aware of how companies can take games away from them? You don't think that will make people think twice about buying games like that?

[rusty_shackleford]

I prefer solving problems over fantasizing about solutions that'll only make things worse. It would genuinely be better to completely redirect away from the consumer protection law thing and become an advocacy group promoting the idea that people want to buy games they can keep.

You don't think this movement makes people aware of how companies can take games away from them? You don't think that will make people think twice about buying games like that?

no, all it did was give ubisoft a PR boost for making blatant lies they won't keep
good job, you helped sell more copies of the new crew games

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

After reading this *** cancer of a thread we truly have the industry we ******* deserve.

[Mondain]

After reading this *** cancer of a thread we truly have the industry we ******* deserve.

Just stop buying slop. It's that easy.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

After reading this *** cancer of a thread we truly have the industry we ******* deserve.

Just stop buying slop. It's that easy.

There is an increasing issue of big and small game developers putting games as a service to perfectly functional single player games.

[maidenhaver]

I behead a game every ten minutes, until you give me a gf.

[Stack of Turtles]

I prefer solving problems over fantasizing about solutions that'll only make things worse. It would genuinely be better to completely redirect away from the consumer protection law thing and become an advocacy group promoting the idea that people want to buy games they can keep.

You don't think this movement makes people aware of how companies can take games away from them? You don't think that will make people think twice about buying games like that?

When did I ever say I have a problem with "this movement"? What I "don't think" is just that it's a good idea for the primary goal to be getting the EU to implement more bureaucratic controls.

[Nooneatall]

Video games are all terrible and dont deserve to be preserved

[Finarfin]

Has his internet petition saved gaming yet?

Just two more signatures

Correction, just one more signature

[Xenich]

Removing copyright protections from companies products that they no longer choose to support may be a possible avenue to curb this issue. A sort of "use it or lose it" type of thing.

Personally, I think that any company that discontinues a product, regardless of what it is, should lose rights to it.

There may be some "specific" cases where there may be an exception, but I think the general rule is a good approach. It doesn't force companies to do anything, it merely keeps various industries from buying up various IPs and sitting on them, never producing anything.

I always thought copyright law was just a scam anyway.

[Vergil]

I would donate to a campaign to kill more games tbh

[Stack of Turtles]

I would donate to a campaign to kill more games tbh

Send me your donation and I'll get to work on it.

[Tweed]

Just stop buying slop. It's that easy.

I did.

Why is there still slop?

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Removing copyright protections from companies products that they no longer choose to support may be a possible avenue to curb this issue. A sort of "use it or lose it" type of thing.

Personally, I think that any company that discontinues a product, regardless of what it is, should lose rights to it.

There may be some "specific" cases where there may be an exception, but I think the general rule is a good approach. It doesn't force companies to do anything, it merely keeps various industries from buying up various IPs and sitting on them, never producing anything.

I always thought copyright law was just a scam anyway.

I agree but that would require changing copyright laws which is next to impossible to do especially in the states.