Vampire: The Masquerade® - Bloodlines™ 2

[rusty_shackleford]

Why are you arguing with spiritual ****?

I don't know, I should stop

[LemonDemonGirl]

You have to be severely autistic to find a problem with this.

TIL that I'm not severely Autistic

[gerey]

TIL that I'm not severely Autistic

If you're female and you're here of all places, you're autistic as ****.

If you're not female, then you're a ****** and so you are autistic by default.

[Roguey]

Made it through the Fabien flashback sequence, having a pretty good time so far.

There was a part near the beginning where nearby cop started investigating the sounds I was making and as a result got into a fight with an enemy ghoul in my way.


The enemy AI is rudimentary though, unfortunate but expected.

Truly a well-written game!

This is a hilarious and appropriate callback, I approve of this more than any returning character from the original.

the main character is an elder you dip

There's no rule saying an Elder can't have high Humanity.

And my point, you dip, is that the character would behave very differently if they had Humanity so low casual murder didn't phase them in the slightest.

https://vtm.paradoxwikis.com/Humanity

Most vampires will begin to drop in Humanity over time with neonates and ancillas sitting around Humanity 5. A vampire player character will start at Humanity 7 unless particular circumstances alter this such as Predator types. Those that are freshly Embraced will begin at Humanity 8. Kindred are monsters, regardless of their rating and even the most saintly and highest of Humanity vampires can be morally corrupt. As their Humanity rating changes over the course of time, it's important to keep track of the changes that will occur. As their rating deteriorates over time, their connections alter and soon they might find themselves holding the corpse of a human they had originally never intended to kill.

[rusty_shackleford]

I HATE THE SINGULAR THEY

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[rusty_shackleford]

I HATE THE SINGULAR THEY

It's so ******* stupid because it's not even used as a singular:
"whoever they are"
That's plural!
"whoever he are", yeah sounds real great guys

[rusty_shackleford]

Also it's not an RPG so I moved it to general video games

[LemonDemonGirl]

**** this I'm waiting for Code Vein 2 instead. Will probably be a better game anyway.

[The_Mask]

Also it's not an RPG so I moved it to general video games

Without RPGHQ exposure as an RPG, this game will bomb even HARDER, Rusty!

Think of the developers!

THINK OF THEIR CHILDREN!

[Valter]

2 hours in and my curiosity is mostly sated.
The writing is below expectations. I expected unpalatable writing, but voice acting is also just meh for most characters.
The gameplay is surprisingly fun. The combat feels fast, as does the climbing. It just feels fun to be so fast. Maybe it'll grow old quick. The combat is still barebones ubersimplistic though.

[Vaako]

2 hours in and my curiosity is mostly sated.
The writing is below expectations. I expected unpalatable writing, but voice acting is also just meh for most characters.
The gameplay is surprisingly fun. The combat feels fast, as does the climbing. It just feels fun to be so fast. Maybe it'll grow old quick. The combat is still barebones ubersimplistic though.

Enemy variety also seems very low.

[Havitner]

EDIT: Also, and this is hilarious, you apparently can't use guns in the game, but you can use telekinesis to pick up a gun and throw it at an enemy.

Phyre doesn't take them into his own hands but you can use telekinesis, shoot them and when they are empty throw them.
source? Me, since I am playing it right now.

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[skdursh]

I am still in the see and wait phase about unsubbing. Not many wortwhile gaming reviews channel left which even cover indie games. And he isnt one of these toxic positivity reviewers which try to find some good everywhere. I cant stand those.

Mate he said Kingdom Come 2 wasn't woke.

I know that was when he fell from graze. But feel free to give me other reviewers which are based/not toxic positiv and also review indie games. Currently besides worthabuy I only really have Synth and his brother for reviews. All others rarely upload at all anymore.

Synthetic Man might say the right words so that upon a surface level review those who don't know better will mistakenly grant him their B-B-BASED stamp of approval, but the reality is that Synth is a thin skinned, futa-loving ultrafaggot turbogooner and NEET who still lives with his Mom despite being over 30 years old. He's never held an actual job in his life and it wasn't except by dumb luck alone that he was able to trip face first into niche Internet popularity by being outspokenly depressing, blackpilled and "based" about videogames at just the right time as the insane disingenuous nature of modern politics (and gaming and society and medicine and...) was hitting its peak and thus another fake-as-**** shill was born... At least now he was finally making his own money for the first time in his life instead of requiring Mommy alone to suffer the cost for the mountain of tendies it surely must take to sustain him, right? I mean, now instead of paying for everything she only has to pay for like 80-95%! Because yes, despite the fact that he actually makes money now (mostly by syphoning the monthly welfare checks out of his small legion of mentally stunted paypigs) and even though his Mom finally grew the vagina to ask her middle-aged, literal basement-dweller son to pay a small pitance of rent, he still regularly shafts her on the already miniscule amount that she asks of him (which is confirmed by him openly bragging about it to his viewers on his Twitch stream). There is plenty more that could be said about the man, but why do I need say more when the knowledge that he has on several occasions spoken candidly about his degenerate gooner lifestyle featuring an ongoing sexual obsession with futa dickgirl hentai should already be significantly more than enough to tell you everything that needs be known about the man: He is a ******.

Also, have you ever actually seen him play videogames? Dude is genuinely at a DarkSydePhil/"Gaming Journalist" tier of uncoordinated, unskilled, profoundly incapable and so intellectually vacuous that he may not even measure up to the IQ of a street-******** Dalit Indian (India has a continental average IQ of 76.2 btw: The More You Know).

[Vaako]

Mate he said Kingdom Come 2 wasn't woke.

I know that was when he fell from graze. But feel free to give me other reviewers which are based/not toxic positiv and also review indie games. Currently besides worthabuy I only really have Synth and his brother for reviews. All others rarely upload at all anymore.

Synthetic Man might say the right words so that upon a surface level review those who don't know better will mistakenly grant him their B-B-BASED stamp of approval, but the reality is that Synth is a thin skinned, futa-loving ultrafaggot turbogooner and NEET who still lives with his Mom despite being over 30 years old. He's never held an actual job in his life and it wasn't except by dumb luck alone that he was able to trip face first into niche Internet popularity by being outspokenly depressing, blackpilled and "based" about videogames at just the right time as the insane disingenuous nature of modern politics (and gaming and society and medicine and...) was hitting its peak and thus another fake-as-**** shill was born... but at least he was finally making some of his own money for the first time in his life instead of requiring his Mommy alone to pay the cost for the mountain of tendies it surely must take to sustain him, now she only has to pay for like 80%! Because yes, despite the fact that he actually makes money now (mostly by syphoning off the monthly welfare checks of his small legion of mentally stunted paypigs) and even though his Mom finally grew the vagina to ask her middle-aged basement-dwelling (literally) son to pay a small pitance of rent, he still regularly shafts her on the already small amount that she asks from him (which is confirmed by him openly bragging about it to his viewers on his Twitch stream). There is plenty more that could be said about the man, but why do I need say more when the knowledge that he has on several occasions spoken candidly about his degenerate gooner lifestyle featuring an ongoing sexual obsession with futa dickgirl hentai should already be significantly more than enough to tell you everything that needs be known about the man: He is a ******.

Also, have you ever actually seen him play videogames? Dude is genuinely at a DarkSydePhil/"Gaming Journalist" tier of uncoordinated, unskilled, profoundly incapable and so intellectually vacuous that he may not even measure up to the IQ of a street-******** Dalit Indian (India has a continental average IQ of 76.2 btw: The More You Know).

[rusty_shackleford]

Mate he said Kingdom Come 2 wasn't woke.

I know that was when he fell from graze. But feel free to give me other reviewers which are based/not toxic positiv and also review indie games. Currently besides worthabuy I only really have Synth and his brother for reviews. All others rarely upload at all anymore.

Synthetic Man might say the right words so that upon a surface level review those who don't know better will mistakenly grant him their B-B-BASED stamp of approval, but the reality is that Synth is a thin skinned, futa-loving ultrafaggot turbogooner and NEET who still lives with his Mom despite being over 30 years old. He's never held an actual job in his life and it wasn't except by dumb luck alone that he was able to trip face first into niche Internet popularity by being outspokenly depressing, blackpilled and "based" about videogames at just the right time as the insane disingenuous nature of modern politics (and gaming and society and medicine and...) was hitting its peak and thus another fake-as-**** shill was born... At least now he was finally making his own money for the first time in his life instead of requiring Mommy alone to suffer the cost for the mountain of tendies it surely must take to sustain him, right? I mean, now instead of paying for everything she only has to pay for like 80-95%! Because yes, despite the fact that he actually makes money now (mostly by syphoning the monthly welfare checks out of his small legion of mentally stunted paypigs) and even though his Mom finally grew the vagina to ask her middle-aged, literal basement-dweller son to pay a small pitance of rent, he still regularly shafts her on the already miniscule amount that she asks of him (which is confirmed by him openly bragging about it to his viewers on his Twitch stream). There is plenty more that could be said about the man, but why do I need say more when the knowledge that he has on several occasions spoken candidly about his degenerate gooner lifestyle featuring an ongoing sexual obsession with futa dickgirl hentai should already be significantly more than enough to tell you everything that needs be known about the man: He is a ******.

Also, have you ever actually seen him play videogames? Dude is genuinely at a DarkSydePhil/"Gaming Journalist" tier of uncoordinated, unskilled, profoundly incapable and so intellectually vacuous that he may not even measure up to the IQ of a street-******** Dalit Indian (India has a continental average IQ of 76.2 btw: The More You Know).

Yeah he is pretty cool

[Oyster Sauce]

Mate he said Kingdom Come 2 wasn't woke.

I know that was when he fell from graze. But feel free to give me other reviewers which are based/not toxic positiv and also review indie games. Currently besides worthabuy I only really have Synth and his brother for reviews. All others rarely upload at all anymore.

Synthetic Man might say the right words so that upon a surface level review those who don't know better will mistakenly grant him their B-B-BASED stamp of approval, but the reality is that Synth is a thin skinned, futa-loving ultrafaggot turbogooner and NEET who still lives with his Mom despite being over 30 years old. He's never held an actual job in his life and it wasn't except by dumb luck alone that he was able to trip face first into niche Internet popularity by being outspokenly depressing, blackpilled and "based" about videogames at just the right time as the insane disingenuous nature of modern politics (and gaming and society and medicine and...) was hitting its peak and thus another fake-as-**** shill was born... At least now he was finally making his own money for the first time in his life instead of requiring Mommy alone to suffer the cost for the mountain of tendies it surely must take to sustain him, right? I mean, now instead of paying for everything she only has to pay for like 80-95%! Because yes, despite the fact that he actually makes money now (mostly by syphoning the monthly welfare checks out of his small legion of mentally stunted paypigs) and even though his Mom finally grew the vagina to ask her middle-aged, literal basement-dweller son to pay a small pitance of rent, he still regularly shafts her on the already miniscule amount that she asks of him (which is confirmed by him openly bragging about it to his viewers on his Twitch stream). There is plenty more that could be said about the man, but why do I need say more when the knowledge that he has on several occasions spoken candidly about his degenerate gooner lifestyle featuring an ongoing sexual obsession with futa dickgirl hentai should already be significantly more than enough to tell you everything that needs be known about the man: He is a ******.

Also, have you ever actually seen him play videogames? Dude is genuinely at a DarkSydePhil/"Gaming Journalist" tier of uncoordinated, unskilled, profoundly incapable and so intellectually vacuous that he may not even measure up to the IQ of a street-******** Dalit Indian (India has a continental average IQ of 76.2 btw: The More You Know).

jelly

[rusty_shackleford]

asking your children to pay you rent in a house you own is some of the most degenerate boomer ******** by the way

[stormvermin]

I'm wondering how much thought went into removing the nosferatu as a playable clan. The game would have been a lot more interesting if it was set in the 20s or the 50s but it had to be the <current year> because gender politics. Seeing as gender politics are on display front and center, did they get cold feet at the prospect of the player being able to play as an irl *****?

[wndrbr]

Adding Nosferatu would've put a strain on their level designers due to them having to add more stealth routes. Removing them was a no-brainer, considering how low-effort and downscoped the game is.

[rusty_shackleford]

Adding Nosferatu would've put a strain on their level designers due to them having to add more stealth routes. Removing them was a no-brainer, considering how low-effort and downscoped the game is.

all of the stuff I did before quitting had full stealth already

[wndrbr]

Adding Nosferatu would've put a strain on their level designers due to them having to add more stealth routes. Removing them was a no-brainer, considering how low-effort and downscoped the game is.

all of the stuff I did before quitting had full stealth already

that's another reason. If their game is nothing but stealth and brawling, then Nosferatu would be too OP.

[rusty_shackleford]

The problem with nosferatu, malkavian, etc., is that it has to actually be different, really it's only something Larian has managed to capture in the last 10 years(if not more) or so tbh. They're the only developer that flopped their big **** on the table and said "Yeah, we WANT players to not see all the content. In fact, missing content is a feature because it makes the game feel more unique."
Devs are obsessed with making sure players see all of the content in their game like it's a themepark now

[J1M]

I think they tried to save the name situation by putting some posters for a band called "PHYRE" next to the character when that is revealed and acting like this is an assumed name... which doesn't really make sense when talking to a character who already knows who you are.

[stormvermin]

that's another reason. If their game is nothing but stealth and brawling, then Nosferatu would be too OP.

assuming the theoretical nosferatu plays by the same rules as the other clans when it comes to disciplines, the mary sue protag would have access to them anyway even if picking some other clan because **** the source material. the player performs masquerade violating actions every couple of minutes already so it doesn't look like a whole lot of thought went into that either.

[GhostCow]

I've played maybe an hour of this so far. It's not as bad as I expected. Definitely not an RPG, but pretty fun. It's worth a pirate. Maybe the writing will get much worse later though. I haven't gotten to any of the stuff from the screenshots earlier in the thread. 6/10 at the worst so far.

[Rand]

The vampire hunters aren't even the biggest problem vampires have to worry about, considering that mages exist in the setting. And mages in WoD are leagues above vampires on the power scale. They basically have cheat codes for reality itself, so some bloodsucker "magic" is nothing but parlor tricks to them.

To be fair, the various splats aren't really meant to be run together, since it would be extremely difficult to make, say, Werewolf and Vampire mythology stay coherent.

But yes, in principle, the only other faction slightly more powerful than mages are the fae, and above both are the angels/demons, and then God Himself.

Mages might be up their own *** most of the time, but if you try to harm humanity, suddenly you have the full attention of every Exarch and Oracle on you, and if that threat was vampires mages could do something really funny like making night disappear everywhere on the planet for a few months, while their agents on Earth do a vampire shoah.

Naturally, there's the Antediluvians, which are pretty powerful - to kill Zapathasura it took a shitload of Kuei-jins, werewolves, other vampires, a satellite blasting him with sunlight and mages dropping spiritual nukes on him to finally bring him down, and this was an Antediluvian that had just woken up from torpor, was barely coherent and lacking in blood.

Even then it's questionable if they managed to kill him, or if he simply made everyone think they did.

That being said, it's proof that you can kill what is the current apex of vampiredom (barring Caine) with enough "mundane" firepower and bodies - you can't really do the same with an Exarch or Oracle.

I honestly can't understand why the mages wouldn't have wiped the vampires out long ago.

You can kind of understand why they don't deal with the werewolf problem: because they and their opponents are both the product of VERY powerful supernatural entities (and maybe whole realms) and they don't want to get into a war with outerworldly gods over basic reality.
If an individual werewolf or a group, or their wyrm-bred counterparts get annoying, I'm sure they make short work of them, but the root of the problem is offworld gods and so they're a recurring problem unless the mages can seal them out or wipe them out.
And, as you said about the fae, these otherworlders are as powerful as mages in their own realms, and have strange powers even in ours.

But the vampires? Annihilating them is trivially easy strategically. Find the antediluvians and erase them. Difficult, but doable. Killing one only took a few middle-power mages. Imagine what an entire dedicated cabal would do to Caine with time for full prep and tactical delivery.
Then the whole "masquerade" thing falls apart and these parasites are now vulnerable to their prey, who will help you with the scut-work of deleting the thinbloods.
Even the vampire clans/sects will do a lot of the work on each other before they finally realize it's genocide time for them.

[gerey]

This is a hilarious and appropriate callback, I approve of this more than any returning character from the original.

It sounds more like the devs were seething there was some heckin' bigotry in the first game.

https://vtm.paradoxwikis.com/Humanity

That doesn't really contradict my point, but okay. I can agree that older vampires are more likely to have low humanity - does the writing of the game reflect the fact you're playing a more monstrous creature with an increasingly alien system of moral values, though?

Because that would have been an actually interesting angle to take, and yet I know the story plays like something BioWare wrote, with the same illusion of choice ("Yes", "Sarcastic yes", "No, but I will do it later").

that's another reason. If their game is nothing but stealth and brawling, then Nosferatu would be too OP.

But they have the Banu Haqium, which are the equivalent of the Nosferatu, only not ugly, and Muslim.

In fact, with access to Celerity and Obfuscate, they're far more OP than the Nosferatu.

If "stealth is too OP" was their main concern, then they royally ****** up.

I honestly can't understand why the mages wouldn't have wiped the vampires out long ago.

I would assume Caine, or maybe God not letting it happen because the whole point of vampires is to teach Caine a lesson and force him to repent. Also, Antediluvians are very powerful and neither mage faction really wants to go poking the bear in his den, so as long as they stay asleep and inactive they're willing to let them be.

You can kind of understand why they don't deal with the werewolf problem: because they and their opponents are both the product of VERY powerful supernatural entities (and maybe whole realms) and they don't want to get into a war with outerworldly gods over basic reality.

In an ironic twist of fate, the mages would have far more reason to kill the werewolves. At least with vampires, they need humans - both as a source of blood, but also to make more of their kind.

Meanwhile, werewolves at one point nearly exterminated humans - they killed so many people that seeing one awakens ancestral fear of them and causes Delirium. They also killed most of the other were-critters because werewolves are assholes.

Also, while their **** goddess doesn't necessarily want humans to be wiped out completely, she also has no qualms about letting her furries cull our numbers and forcing us to live like cavemen once again.

[MrTwinkls]

So you can't disable post processing effects that everyone hates or change the FOV without mods or editing ini files? Great start. Since I wont be touching this game for at least two years to find out I ask you guys. Can you kill or attack any character in this game and continue on?

[Bertram_Tung]

Truly a well-written game!

thats a direct shot fired at the heckin bigoted devs of the first game since thats what the pills said in your inventory in BL1

This is a hilarious and appropriate callback, I approve of this more than any returning character from the original.

omg totally xister, i love muh based trantifa virtue signalling

[Bertram_Tung]

asking your children to pay you rent in a house you own is some of the most degenerate boomer ******** by the way

if someone is going to do this, the only correct way to do it is to collect the rent each month, never spend it, and then give it all back to them when they move out