Vampire: The Masquerade® - Bloodlines™ 2

[Jordy]

Are the devs/pubs actually touting this as an RPG or something else? I haven't seen anything RPG related so far.

I guess they are.

guess having a skiltree for what you have to collect blood samples is enough already.

Oh, watching a stream so I missed the 5 seconds that popped up for.

[Finarfin]

Probably need to wait until the weekend for a better idea but it's not a great start.

It's better than I expected, considering the game has been getting bad press since being (re)announced, and largely rejected by the existing fanbase.

EDIT: Also, and this is hilarious, you apparently can't use guns in the game, but you can use telekinesis to pick up a gun and throw it at an enemy.

Phyre doesn't take them into his own hands but you can use telekinesis, shoot them and when they are empty throw them.
source? Me, since I am playing it right now.

[Jordy]

Your 2025 prostitute:

[Tweed]

100 years, for this.

[rusty_shackleford]

forgot to mention that all the characters I saw look like weird wax figures

[rusty_shackleford]

forgot to mention that all the characters I saw look like weird wax figures

Without exaggeration, this is the first character you see in the game

[Tweed]

Vampire bros eatin' good tonight.

[gerey]

Phyre doesn't take them into his own hands but you can use telekinesis, shoot them and when they are empty throw them.

That's even worse.

They couldn't even spare some resources to include gun firing and reloading animations?

[The_Mask]

Without exaggeration, this is the first character you see in the game

A good old man working security during graveyard shift... and you kill him him. No remorse. No thought. No nothing. Just like that.

Probably the worst start of a videogame ever. Trash. Garbage.

[rusty_shackleford]

Without exaggeration, this is the first character you see in the game

A good old man working security during graveyard shift... and you kill him him. No remorse. No thought. No nothing. Just like that.

Probably the worst start of a videogame ever. Trash. Garbage.

It's a game about playing the monster

[Finarfin]

Without exaggeration, this is the first character you see in the game

A good old man working security during graveyard shift... and you kill him him. No remorse. No thought. No nothing. Just like that.

Probably the worst start of a videogame ever. Trash. Garbage.

Why not go play some Hello Kitty Island Adventure?

[Oyster Sauce]

Without exaggeration, this is the first character you see in the game

A good old man working security during graveyard shift... and you kill him him. No remorse. No thought. No nothing. Just like that.

Probably the worst start of a videogame ever. Trash. Garbage.

Autism

[LemonDemonGirl]

Without exaggeration, this is the first character you see in the game

A good old man working security during graveyard shift... and you kill him him. No remorse. No thought. No nothing. Just like that.

Probably the worst start of a videogame ever. Trash. Garbage.

It's a game about playing the monster

Well, considering there's no Humanity system, yes.
Also you have to get blood from somewhere

[The_Mask]

Without exaggeration, this is the first character you see in the game

A good old man working security during graveyard shift... and you kill him him. No remorse. No thought. No nothing. Just like that.

Probably the worst start of a videogame ever. Trash. Garbage.

Autism

Suck my ****, ******. You're a ******* trash human being. <3

[gerey]

It's a game about playing the monster

Vampire is a setting about actively trying not to be a monster, or at the very least holding onto your humanity for as long as possible. Or not, if that's what you choose, but even then reaching zero Humanity is basically game over.

The game opening in this way is the kind of tone-deafness you can expect from shitlib writers. I don't think it's a coincidence the security guard is an old White man.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's a game about playing the monster

Vampire is a setting about actively trying not to be a monster, or at the very least holding onto your humanity for as long as possible. Or not, if that's what you choose, but even then reaching zero Humanity is basically game over.

The game opening in this way is the kind of tone-deafness you can expect from shitlib writers.

no it's about being the monster that pretends to be human

[gerey]

no it's about being the monster that pretends to be human

We can argue in circles if you want, the point of contention here is that the game is railroading you into a stupid direction.

Am I supposed to empathize with this kind of protagonist?

At least in Bloodlines being a monster was a choice you had to actively make.

[Oyster Sauce]

I had to steal a car in Grand Theft Auto wtf I can't empathize with this protagonist

[Finarfin]

You have to be severely autistic to find a problem with this.

[rusty_shackleford]

We can argue in circles if you want, the point of contention here is that the game is railroading you into a stupid direction.

akshually, they're just following the rules of the tabletop game

A vampire with zero blood points in his system is ravenously hungry and likely in the throes of frenzy.

[gerey]

You have to be severely autistic to find a problem with this.

Have a problem with a **** game with **** writing?

[Finarfin]

No, suddenly having a sissy fit about playing a vampire who kills humans.

[gerey]

No, suddenly having a sissy fit about playing a vampire who kills humans.

It has Bloodlines in the title, the expectations is that you'd have a choice.

And yes, I will be holding the game up to the standards established by Bloodlines 1.

[Acrux]

I only play good vampires like Bunnicula who feeds on the juice out of carrots and tomatoes and strawberries.

[The_Mask]

no it's about being the monster that pretends to be human

Still no loss of Humanity because you kill an innocent person. I'm not asking to stay in the character of the monster that you, allegedly, are. I'm asking to respect the rules of the game.

[gerey]

Still no loss of Humanity because you kill an innocent person.

Technically, you wouldn't lose Humanity if killing innocents was what your character did regularly and was something he or she had become desenthisized to, but then the narrative of the game would need to reflect you playing as a murderous sociopath.

[rusty_shackleford]

Still no loss of Humanity because you kill an innocent person.

Technically, you wouldn't lose Humanity if killing innocents was what your character did regularly and was something he or she had become desenthisized to, but then the narrative of the game would need to reflect you playing as a murderous sociopath.

the main character is an elder you dip

[gerey]

the main character is an elder you dip

There's no rule saying an Elder can't have high Humanity.

And my point, you dip, is that the character would behave very differently if they had Humanity so low casual murder didn't phase them in the slightest.

[gerey]

Truly a well-written game!

[Tweed]

Why are you arguing with spiritual ****?