Was Oblivion soulless slop?

[Ryzer]

Also @rusty_shackleford, you are dishonest at excusing Oblivion since you purposely forget to mention all the inexcusable features it removed such as:

-Different tiers of diseases
-Better enemy variety
-Different biomes
-Cities cut behind a loading screen to load even though Morrowind has no loading screen to load cities and it works on Xbox console. No excuse.
-Levitation spells, slowfall spells, jump spells, open spells for non-lockpicking characters, fortify attributes, damage/drain attributes,
spell absortion, spell reflection, damage reflection, feather, burden removed for no reason

[Element]

I think I uninstalled it as soon as I reached the imperial city the first time I played it. Then in the second attempt right after a couple of fights in the arena. It came off as a terrible case of consolitis. In hindsight, I think, the overall quality of gaming in the late 90s to mid 00s on both the PC and the consoles had a bad priming effect, and Oblivion was the harbinger of the latter's increasing power over the former throughout the 360 era (for the detriment of both).

It definitely had soul. The music and the UI icons alone are a testament to that.

[rusty_shackleford]

Also @rusty_shackleford, you are dishonest at excusing Oblivion since you purposely forget to mention all the inexcusable features it removed such as:

-Different tiers of diseases
-Better enemy variety
-Different biomes
-Cities cut behind a loading screen to load even though Morrowind has no loading screen to load cities and it works on Xbox console. No excuse.
-Levitation spells, slowfall spells, jump spells, open spells for non-lockpicking characters, fortify attributes, damage/drain attributes,
spell absortion, spell reflection, damage reflection, feather, burden removed for no reason

magic is homosexual and shouldn't be encouraged

[Tinky Winky]

The longer this goes on the more I realize how truly terrible most people's taste in games are.

Lilura was right again, get lilurapilled :
https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2020/07/Be ... sance.html

► spoiler:autism

The Dark Ages is so potent, so pernicious and contagious, that it has transformed many a neck-bearded grognard into a casual gamer. You can find them all rotting away on computer-game forums that pretend to be "hardcore and oldschool".

It is foolish to believe that an epic-level neck-bearded grognard cannot be nerfed to a piddling Level 1 casual by the pernicious mainstream that ushered in the Dark Ages of Computer-gaming.

lilura is a ****** btw

uhmmm being dickless is still better than being brainless chud, xe's just right.

► more autism

Oblivion With Guns: Resurrected by Lilura1. OwG fell out of fashion when most cRPG veterans devolved into RPG Gamers. Proof: The vulgar computer game OwG refers to is now accepted even in veteran communities, whereas it was formerly written off. Just go and have a laugh at all the Fallen veterans talking positively about OwG and its derivatives in the 2020s. They love OwG now. And all shallow open-world Morrowind-likes, such as Kenshi. Fallen veterans are worse than casuals. cf. Veteran casual.

https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2021/03/Co ... lura1.html

[rusty_shackleford]

tell lilura to undelete xer's blogpost about me

[Tinky Winky]

tell lilura to undelete xer's blogpost about me

I don't think xe even cares anymore, as xir special interest has already swifted from actualy gaming to writing about boomer techs that literally no one would ******* read.

[Element]

I recall @Roguey was adamant on the codex that Lilura was in fact a woman from Hong Kong

[Demonic Fate]

I recall @Roguey was adamant on the codex that Lilura was in fact a woman from Hong Kong

It writes 100% like a (colossally autistic) man.

If it were a woman, I would have her tested for reverse-Klinefelter syndrome.

[WaterMage]

What ruins Oblivion is the atrocious bad level scaling.

[gerey]

magic is homosexual and shouldn't be encouraged

[maidenhaver]

I recall @Roguey was adamant on the codex that Lilura was in fact a woman from Hong Kong

That settles it, Tweed and tnky winky get their opinions from ********.

[NotAI]

What ruins Oblivion is the atrocious bad level scaling.

This 100%.
It started the trend, now that I think about it.

[Roguey]

-Cities cut behind a loading screen to load even though Morrowind has no loading screen to load cities and it works on Xbox console. No excuse.

Morrowind and Oblivion cities are different. Oblivion has moar graphix and especially moar AI. If they could do it without loading screens they would, just like how Obsidian had to add loading screens to the strip in New Vegas rather than keep it as one long stretch of road. The NPCs were just destroying the memory and it still wasn't as busy as they would have preferred.

I'm guessing cities on separate cells is also why they removed levitation since you can't just float your way inside a city.

Despite this defense of Oblivion I think it sucks. There's not a single leveling mod that fixes level scaling to my liking and most quests are incredibly basic with no player choice with the notable exception of the the Hitman-style antics encouraged by the Dark Brotherhood quest. The character faces are also incredibly ugly.

I recall @Roguey was adamant on the codex that Lilura was in fact a woman from Hong Kong

Multiple women, including a lesbian, agreed that Lilura was a woman and not ***** or a male pretending. She's just autistic.

[Xenich]

There’s fast travel in oblivion???

Yes. Oblivion suffered from heavy console influence in its design.

[Wretch]

Wow you ******* actually managed to turn this into a codexfarms ****** lolcow thread. I’ll give you a hint. If someone places any weight on their special internet forum they use and base their ego off of it they are a complete loser.

This is a good poll though because it has almost perfectly divided the good posters from the soulless npcs that are copy pasting video essays and ****** e celebrities since their own heads are too full of furry porn and faggotry to contain any real thoughts.

I really appreciate how the main quest and general theme of the game is free from the subversive nonsense in most other rpgs. Good is good, evil is evil. Kill the demons, kill the necromancers, have a fun time in a world that has the fun tone of a storytale. Skyrim had a terrible girlboss and subversion problem where the world was made so there was no truth, no right side, everyone was evil and ******. It was just pure nihilism slop.

Fallout new Vegas was even worse but with everyone being gay AND terrible.

[Xenich]

I didn't vote because my opinion of Oblivion is based on heavy modding and most of my objections to it were the console influences and some mechanics I didn't care for.

[Ryzer]

Fallout new Vegas was even worse but with everyone being gay AND terrible.

Brother, I hated Faggout New Vegas before it was even cool but it isn't a reason to shill for Oblivion.

[Demonic Fate]

The only parts of Oblivion I remember fondly were the Ayleid ruins for the aesthetics and the Thieves' Guild heists for the mission design.

The rest was... good enough for screwing around in a sandbox, I guess, and the wacky scaling mechanics were conducive to that. But generic as hell. I learn now that "Cyrodiil should have been a jungle" was a retcon, but it would still have made for a more interesting world to explore. I had fun messing with the NPCs and collecting junk, but I rarely felt the urge to discover what was behind the next hill or to progress a quest.

Skyrim doubled down on the "screw around in a casual sandbox where nothing matters" approach, but at least it was consistently pretty to look at, and it did a better job setting the mood via environmental setpieces.

[Tinky Winky]

Fallout new Vegas was even worse but with everyone being gay AND terrible.

Brother, I hated Faggout New Vegas before it was even cool but it isn't a reason to shill for Oblivion.

He got filtered by isometric gameplay so lol who cares

I recall @Roguey was adamant on the codex that Lilura was in fact a woman from Hong Kong

That settles it, Tweed and tnky winky get their opinions from ********.

Mind broken by LilUwUra because you transhate reading. \

Never play Oblivion though, but now I think I may try it with the unmodded experience for lulz.

[maidenhaver]

I may try it with the unmodded experience for lulz.

In all seriousness, use a darNified UI mod, to get ride of the console menu. Then use an unscaling mod, so you run into every type of enemy, and bandits won't wear daedric. I would tell you which is best, but I can't play Bethesda games, anymore.

[Tweed]

Everyone who voted for Oblivion played KCD2 on the sly.

[Humbaba]

Shooting for the moon, even if you miss, is underappreciated. I'm tired of "safe" small scope games(and projects in general.) Give me ambition!

Do NOT give him ambition, that's how we got Troika and Obsidian! I repeat, do NOT give it to him!

[gerey]

Multiple women, including a lesbian, agreed that Lilura was a woman

And we trust the word of a woman because...?

[Faceless_Sentinel]

tell lilura to undelete xer's blogpost about me

Can you tell this story, please?

[Ryzer]

I don't know if Oblivion is soulful or not but what I do know is that it is SOYFUL.

[Oyster Sauce]

I don't know if Oblivion is soulful or not but what I do know is that it is SOYFUL.

Elaborate

[rusty_shackleford]

I don't know if Oblivion is soulful or not but what I do know is that it is SOYFUL.

Elaborate

He doesn't know, he's just using buzzwords.

[Roguey]

Multiple women, including a lesbian, agreed that Lilura was a woman

And we trust the word of a woman because...?

They're far better at spotting fakes than men, they have the lived experience of being a woman after all.

tell lilura to undelete xer's blogpost about me

Can you tell this story, please?

[Rand]

Morrowind and Oblivion cities are different. Oblivion has moar graphix and especially moar AI. If they could do it without loading screens they would, just like how Obsidian had to add loading screens to the strip in New Vegas rather than keep it as one long stretch of road. The NPCs were just destroying the memory and it still wasn't as busy as they would have preferred.

I'm guessing cities on separate cells is also why they removed levitation since you can't just float your way inside a city.

It's not that they couldn't do it. There's a mod that does and it runs fine. On PC.

It was the ******* Xbox that required not only this, but more limited architecture and landscaping because of that weak-*** piece of **** console.

And you are correct about the removal of flight spells being tied to this. They admitted as much.
The removal of mark and recall is harder to justify. I believe they ran into problems with it breaking missions, such as some where you are only supposed to be able to be at a location once.

[Ryzer]

I don't know if Oblivion is soulful or not but what I do know is that it is SOYFUL.

Elaborate

He doesn't know, he's just using buzzwords.