I will take private server emulators made by autists over allowing the EU to make any demands.Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:37Again I hate government intervention because more often then not they will **** it up , however the question has to be asked what is the alternative?Mondain wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:34You mean like EU "consumer protection" laws for social media that exist to censor things they dislike?Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:28
Believe me the last thing I want is government intervention in anything however the live service games are increasing getting worse and now having it in single player games. Game developer and publishers are refusing/ ignoring any options for game preservations If there were any other options that were available and worked I would be all for it but unfortunately it goes on death ears.
We have a Steam curator now. You should be following it. https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44994899-RPGHQ/
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Stop buying Games as a Slop.Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:37Again I hate government intervention because more often then not they will **** it up , however the question has to be asked what is the alternative?
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It’s very difficult to use emulators when the servers that operate studios game are permanently shut down especially the new live service that use specialized equipment to operate compare to older titles.Mondain wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:38Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:37Again I hate government intervention because more often then not they will **** it up , however the question has to be asked what is the alternative?Mondain wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:34
You mean like EU "consumer protection" laws for social media that exist to censor things they dislike?
I will take private server emulators made by autists over allowing the EU to make any demands.
By the way, here's the really funny part.
Suppose the EU does implement this and then a live-service game enters the EU market, submits its token promise to have an action plan for end-of-life, and then just shuts down without following through anyway.
EU does... what? Bans the dead game from being sold in the EU anymore?
Suppose the EU does implement this and then a live-service game enters the EU market, submits its token promise to have an action plan for end-of-life, and then just shuts down without following through anyway.
EU does... what? Bans the dead game from being sold in the EU anymore?
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I think instead of saving some ****** live service games going offline the way to "save gaming" would be to stop ******** ******* from making ****** games in the first place.
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
One I would like the few games I like not be shutdown, slopStack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:44Stop buying Games as a Slop.Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:37Again I hate government intervention because more often then not they will **** it up , however the question has to be asked what is the alternative?
or not.
Two I dislike the idea of media being permanently destroyed never being seen or played ever again.
lastly I find the idea that a company can arbitrarily take away the **** I payed for without notice revolting.
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stop buying licenses to dumb **** that explicitly allows them to revoke accessUnhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:59lastly I find the idea that a company can arbitrarily take away the **** I payed for without notice revolting.
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I'd like a pony and for New York to magically be fused with Texas, so what?Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:59One I would like the few games I like not be shutdown, slop
or not.
A lot of people dislike the idea of any media ever being made without LBGT+ representation in it, and the EU likes them a lot more than it likes you. Just because you dislike the idea of something doesn't mean anyone can fix it for you.Two I dislike the idea of media being permanently destroyed never being seen or played ever again.
(Also all media should be burned.)
You paid for the right to play the game for however long they deign to support it. Should've read the fine print...lastly I find the idea that a company can arbitrarily take away the **** I payed for without notice revolting.
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Pay sizeable fines for breaking consumer laws would dissuade such actions. And if they won’t operate in the EU so be it at the very least there was a real attempt made making laws to protect consumers instead of doing nothing as games increase have more more live service modes in more types of games.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 01:49By the way, here's the really funny part.
Suppose the EU does implement this and then a live-service game enters the EU market, submits its token promise to have an action plan for end-of-life, and then just shuts down without following through anyway.
EU does... what? Bans the dead game from being sold in the EU anymore?![]()
Actually, hold on, this deserves a post all its own.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:02A lot of people dislike the idea of any media ever being made without LBGT+ representation in it, and the EU likes them a lot more than it likes you. Just because you dislike the idea of something doesn't mean anyone can fix it for you.Two I dislike the idea of media being permanently destroyed never being seen or played ever again.
(Also all media should be burned.)
Someday you will die, everyone you have ever known will die, the city where you live will be rubble, and all the media you love will be forgotten and never seen again in this world, and there will be no living mind in this world that would even care.
Don't waste your existential crisis on something this stupid. Let Concord go.
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How are you gonna make them pay fines when the company no longer exists? Or even if the company sticks around, what if they simply don't? What do you have left to threaten anyone with?Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:05Pay sizeable fines for breaking consumer laws would dissuade such actions. And if they won’t operate in the EU so be it at the very least there was a real attempt made making laws to protect consumers instead of doing nothing as games increase have more more live service modes in more types of games.
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You guys talking about live service games are missing the essential point that they can put an artifical expiration date even on essentially single player games that have to connect to a central server. This isn't just a GaaS problem.
Any game that needs a connection to function is a GaaS at heart. (You might say it has a ... heart of GaaS.)WhiteShark wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:07You guys talking about live service games are missing the essential point that they can put an artifical expiration date even on essentially single player games that have to connect to a central server. This isn't just a GaaS problem.
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You can buy a tire iron for about 5 dollars and find the address of the studio for free.WhiteShark wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:07You guys talking about live service games are missing the essential point that they can put an artifical expiration date even on essentially single player games that have to connect to a central server. This isn't just a GaaS problem.
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They can do this with any game. There's nothing stopping them from making every game work like this, even games that would not otherwise have been considered GaaS in any way. It's a despicable practice. Should people buy games that do this? No, of course not, but it shouldn't be allowed in the first place.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:08Any game that needs a connection to function is a GaaS at heart. (You might say it has a ... heart of GaaS.)WhiteShark wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:07You guys talking about live service games are missing the essential point that they can put an artifical expiration date even on essentially single player games that have to connect to a central server. This isn't just a GaaS problem.
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You can't legislate them into being moral, you have to put the fear of God in them.WhiteShark wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:10They can do this with any game. There's nothing stopping them from making every game work like this, even games that would not otherwise have been considered GaaS in any way. It's a despicable practice. Should people buy games that do this? No, of course not, but it shouldn't be allowed in the first place.Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:08Any game that needs a connection to function is a GaaS at heart. (You might say it has a ... heart of GaaS.)WhiteShark wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:07You guys talking about live service games are missing the essential point that they can put an artifical expiration date even on essentially single player games that have to connect to a central server. This isn't just a GaaS problem.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:08ou can buy a tire iron for about 5 dollars and find the address of the studio for free.
Ok, go ahead. What's that? You're not actually going to grab your tire iron and drive on down to the offices of every AAA game studio? Oh, ok. Well, maybe we should ask the entity whose job it is to enforce good behavior by means of violence to handle it, then. You know, like Ross is doing.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:11You can't legislate them into being moral, you have to put the fear of God in them.
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If someone shut my WoW access off at the height of my addiction, they'd have felt my wrath.WhiteShark wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:14rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:08ou can buy a tire iron for about 5 dollars and find the address of the studio for free.Ok, go ahead. What's that? You're not actually going to grab your tire iron and drive on down to the offices of every AAA game studio? Oh, ok. Well, maybe we should ask the entity whose job it is to enforce good behavior by means of violence to handle it, then. You know, like Ross is doing.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:11You can't legislate them into being moral, you have to put the fear of God in them.
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I mean, you can't do it with games that already exist and don't connect to servers (unless you trick people into voluntarily updating)WhiteShark wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:10They can do this with any game. There's nothing stopping them from making every game work like this, even games that would not otherwise have been considered GaaS in any way. It's a despicable practice. Should people buy games that do this? No, of course not, but it shouldn't be allowed in the first place.
but yes, they can make any new game be a GaaS in disguise
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When was the last time a company actually stopped being immoral because a government agency told them to?
Bell got broken up and was back together within a handful of years. Wow, that really worked.
Going to guess that woman going to youtube HQ with a gun put more fear into jewtoob than any threat ever made by the EU.
Bell got broken up and was back together within a handful of years. Wow, that really worked.
Going to guess that woman going to youtube HQ with a gun put more fear into jewtoob than any threat ever made by the EU.
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"nooo rusty you can't just suggest violently attacking someone who is corrupt! you need to beg the EU bureaucracy to go and take their cut while doing absolutely nothing so you can feel good about yourself!"
SAVE ME FROM THESE LIBERALS NIGGERMAN
SAVE ME FROM THESE LIBERALS NIGGERMAN
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I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work
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I also trust promises made by multi-billion dollar international globohomo corporations.Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:27I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work
Also, Assassin's Creed Shadows will respect Japanese history.
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**** your pants and do nothing then I guess (this poster believes in voting btw)rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:28I also trust promises made by multi-billion dollar international globohomo corporations.Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:27I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work
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whiteshark agreed with this meaning he believes this btwOyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:27I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work
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You didn't notice how they said nothing about actually having an offline mode for the game they already killed this year? Instead just mentioning the two games that weren't killed yet?Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:29**** your pants and do nothing then I guess (this poster believes in voting btw)rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:28I also trust promises made by multi-billion dollar international globohomo corporations.Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:27I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work
Also, Assassin's Creed Shadows will respect Japanese history.
Hint: It's because they're lying.
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I'm telling you right now that if some weeb broke into ubisoft's offices with a katana demanding the ****** from shadows be removed, that would be more effective than any government action
europeans get bullied by muslims like this all the time and it works.
europeans get bullied by muslims like this all the time and it works.
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Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:02I'd like a pony and for New York to magically be fused with Texas, so what?
Ok. It’s not going to stop people from trying.
Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:02
A lot of people dislike the idea of any media ever being made without LBGT+ representation in it, and the EU likes them a lot more than it likes you. Just because you dislike the idea of something doesn't mean anyone can fix it for you.
(Also all media should be burned.)
So what these are different issues . The EU is bringing up the issue of consumers protection for live service. Is it likely going to fix the problem? Probably not but an attempt was made instead as I say once again doing ******* nothing.
Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:02
You paid for the right to play the game for however long they deign to support it. Should've read the fine print...
TOS can’t supersede laws of a given nation.
Honestly it looks like you don’t care about the issue or have any alternative solutions which is perfectly understandable so at this point there’s no reason to discuss this further.
When these **** always online racing games get offline modes implemented I'm going to remember this post and I will call you a gay nerdrusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:29whiteshark agreed with this meaning he believes this btwOyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:27I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work
https://news.ubisoft.com/en-au/article/ ... -communityWe have put significant effort into ensuring an immersive and respectful representation of Feudal Japan.
wow I didn't know the EU enforcers had invented time travel too, that EU law that hasn't been implemented yet's really paying dividendsOyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:27I like that 1 page ago a game was saved from being killed forever because of this campaign and all discussion since has been how this campaign won't work
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The iconic Rusty Goalpost Backpedalrusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:31You didn't notice how they said nothing about actually having an offline mode for the game they already killed this year? Instead just mentioning the two games that weren't killed yet?Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:29**** your pants and do nothing then I guess (this poster believes in voting btw)rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 11th, 2024, 02:28
I also trust promises made by multi-billion dollar international globohomo corporations.
Also, Assassin's Creed Shadows will respect Japanese history.
Hint: It's because they're lying.