Avowed, a TOW-like game from Obsidian

[rusty_shackleford]

Feargus has acknowledged that covid/remote-work really ****** them when it came to productivity.

It took them 18 months to make a single dlc for outer worlds, as long as it took oldsidian to make the entirety of FNV. it had nothing to do with the coof.

[gerey]

[Roguey]

Feargus has acknowledged that covid/remote-work really ****** them when it came to productivity.

It took them 18 months to make a single dlc for outer worlds, as long as it took oldsidian to make the entirety of FNV. it had nothing to do with the coof.

Patel's management philosophy of "new martyrs, no mavericks" everyone works an 8 hour day and is then forced to go home is also a contributing factor.



This is the game.

[Nooneatall]

Feargus has acknowledged that covid/remote-work really ****** them when it came to productivity.

It took them 18 months to make a single dlc for outer worlds, as long as it took oldsidian to make the entirety of FNV. it had nothing to do with the coof.

Patel's management philosophy of "new martyrs, no mavericks" everyone works an 8 hour day and is then forced to go home is also a contributing factor.



This is the game.

I do want shorter games with worse graphics but I'm fine with game devs being paid almost nothing like today. They can get ******.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Feargus has acknowledged that covid/remote-work really ****** them when it came to productivity.

It took them 18 months to make a single dlc for outer worlds, as long as it took oldsidian to make the entirety of FNV. it had nothing to do with the coof.

Patel's management philosophy of "new martyrs, no mavericks" everyone works an 8 hour day and is then forced to go home is also a contributing factor.



This is the game.

It it bad that I want devs work 8 hours a day, payed big salary, but for that they must give better graphics, stories, gameplay and less bugs in games?

[Stack of Turtles]

It took them 18 months to make a single dlc for outer worlds, as long as it took oldsidian to make the entirety of FNV. it had nothing to do with the coof.

Patel's management philosophy of "new martyrs, no mavericks" everyone works an 8 hour day and is then forced to go home is also a contributing factor.



This is the game.

It it bad that I want devs work 8 hours a day, payed big salary, but for that they must give better graphics, stories, gameplay and less bugs in games?

Yes. Game devs deserve to be slaves. They shouldn't even get to make games unless "games" is redefined as "freshly dug coal and ores".

[rusty_shackleford]

Help get the correct tags to the top, lads. Psychological Horror just needs a bit more.

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[UltraFan123]

And to the surprise of absolutely nobody.

These Avowed ***** are real sexist misogynists for treating a Latino woman that way.

[Gunnar]

Obsidian requires anyone receiving a review copy to be a shill. Ergo, anyone who receives a review copy is a shill, at least in Obsidians opinion. Good to know.

[rusty_shackleford]

And to the surprise of absolutely nobody.

These Avowed ***** are real sexist misogynists for treating a Latino woman that way.

This is the person who said they were non-binary and got a veilguard key, right?

[Roguey]

Gonna need more proof than just DMs with no name attached. It just seems unlikely to me that someone working for MS would use such blunt language.

[Manny V]

they

et tu, rusty?

[rusty_shackleford]

they

et tu, rusty?

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[Griffin]

And to the surprise of absolutely nobody.

These Avowed ***** are real sexist misogynists for treating a Latino woman that way.

Gonna have to agree with @Roguey , no sane PR flunkie would ever tell someone that they're blacklisted, they would not just reply or give some non-answer or something, but we live in clownworld so who knows.

That twitter poster twatted this

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[rusty_shackleford]

I'd tend towards not believing it, but xe did get a key for veilguard
I'd need more evidence

[Tweed]

And this is why you can't trust people who get those keys anyway.

[WaterMage]

When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP. When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.

Now I realized that Rangers have no animal companion. Did they take EVERYTHING interesting from Pillows away? No Cipher psionics, no Druid shapeshift, no Chanter, no wounds-based monk, no raging Barbarian, just 3 "trees" out of the 11 classes as trees, and the trees are vastly "capped.".

In Avoided, Rangers have 18 active and passive in total https://avowed.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger Ability Tree
In PoE 2, Rangers only in the 1st/2nd out of 9 "rows" have 19 active + passive abilities. https://pillarsofeternity2.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger

Such a decline in the number of stuff is greater than any Bethesda game. From Morrowind to Oblivion or Oblivion to Skyrim, was not that bad. And before someone says "muh quality over quantity," everything interesting from Rangers or Wizards is also out of the game. It is the same decline of Dragon Age Origins to Failguard but in a single game.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP. When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.

Now I realized that Rangers have no animal companion. Did they take EVERYTHING interesting from Pillows away? No Cipher psionics, no Druid shapeshift, no Chanter, no wounds-based monk, no raging Barbarian, just 3 "trees" out of the 11 classes as trees, and the trees are vastly "capped.".

In Avoided, Rangers have 18 active and passive in total https://avowed.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger Ability Tree
In PoE 2, Rangers only in the 1st/2nd out of 9 "rows" have 19 active + passive abilities. https://pillarsofeternity2.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger

Such a decline in the number of stuff is greater than any Bethesda game. From Morrowind to Oblivion or Oblivion to Skyrim, was not that bad. And before someone says "muh quality over quantity," everything interesting from Rangers or Wizards is also out of the game. It is the same decline of Dragon Age Origins to Failguard but in a single game.

I believe that obsidian goal was aiming for broader appeal like Skyrim and not focusing on the CRPG aspects of POE.

[WaterMage]

I believe that obsidian goal was aiming for broader appeal like Skyrim and not focusing on the CRPG aspects of POE.

I know. I'm not criticizing the lack of RPG mechanics. I was expecting a game full of "awesome button". Even the "awesome button" of this game sucks and are much more limited than Pillows. That is what I was criticizing.

[rusty_shackleford]

just a reminder that avowed has more people working on it than skyrim did

[WaterMage]

just a reminder that avowed has more people working on it than skyrim did

And much more diversity hires.

The bloodline is a game made by one guy. 11 Martial skill trees and 12 Magical skill trees.

[rusty_shackleford]

Obsidian slack leaked @Roguey



Everyone in the screenshots is a 'literal who?'

Notable standout is the digimancy employee(contractor)


"He[Musk] is not a bright man"
They're doing the thing!

Libtards always do this thing where if they disagree with someone then that person is stupid.
Yes, oh video game journalist, the richest man in the world that leads space exploration, is best friends with the president, provides wireless internet to the world, and who is the Ford of electric cars is actually Very Stupid.

[Xenich]

Obsidian slack leaked @Roguey



Everyone in the screenshots is a 'literal who?'

Notable standout is the digimancy employee(contractor)


"He[Musk] is not a bright man"
They're doing the thing!

Libtards always do this thing where if they disagree with someone then that person is stupid.
Yes, oh video game journalist, the richest man in the world that leads space exploration, is best friends with the president, provides wireless internet to the world, and who is the Ford of electric cars is actually Very Stupid.

So... like uhhh... he's so stupid!!! I mean, like ya, stupid... sheesh... like ya know? Like Oh.. my... gawd! Seriously... like.

[UltraFan123]

I do hope that whoever is leaking these slack messages doesn't get shacked, it's pretty fun to watch them whine.

[Tangerine]

I do hope that whoever is leaking these slack messages doesn't get shacked, it's pretty fun to watch them whine.

Bet they're trying to find the social media of everybody whose political opinion they're not 100% sure of.

[rusty_shackleford]

QA teams at these studios are yuge, it would be almost impossible to track down someone leaking

[Roguey]

The person who requested pronouns on the character screen was Manolo Rosenberg (deranged woman who thinks she's a man), go fig

[The_Mask]

Oh boy, apparently employees at Obsidian are now sharing internal Slack messages. Yikes.



According to reports, the CEO is “not going to speak directly to what is happening” but instead will “let it blow over”. True leadership.

Sheesh - either way, at least take a stand?

Oh, and interesting, based on the Slack messages, Digimancy (another game company) seems to be working with them, too.

[wndrbr]

Is Ziets one of the progressive types too?

[Roguey]

Is Ziets one of the progressive types too?

Not publicly, about as agreeable as one can expect a dev to be https://x.com/gziets?lang=en