Mass Effect series.

[rusty_shackleford]

I like how mass effect doesn't address the areas of the galaxy not near a gate. Millions of years for species to advance on their own, never to interact with species near gates.

[Vergil]

I like how mass effect doesn't address the areas of the galaxy not near a gate. Millions of years for species to advance on their own, never to interact with species near gates.

A lot of potential there that I'm glad they did nothing at all with

[TheEmptyRoad]

I like how mass effect doesn't address the areas of the galaxy not near a gate. Millions of years for species to advance on their own, never to interact with species near gates.

They should have done that instead of 'go to a new galaxy' for the 'Exploration' Spin-Off.

Also, Leviathan should have been a Rogue Reaper that hunted its own kind. Like a Cosmic Horror Serial Killer.

[Vergil]

They should have done that instead of 'go to a new galaxy' for the 'Exploration' Spin-Off.

To be fair it was supposed to be a new big trilogy with it's own huge multimedia push and not just a spin off until it was such an abhorrent piece of dried white dog **** that they scrapped basically EVERYTHING.

Also, Leviathan should have been a Rogue Reaper that hunted its own kind. Like a Cosmic Horror Serial Killer.

I think that would have been kind of gay and ******** bestie <3

[rusty_shackleford]

Andromeda wasn't anywhere near as bad as the yewtoobers said. It was probably the first game that got piled on for clicks, I guess?
Not saying it's good, but it's more like ... Idk, 6.5/10. It's definitely better than Inquisition which got slobbed on.

Afaik it was actually profitable, they just kneejerk reacted to feedback.

[wndrbr]

I like how mass effect doesn't address the areas of the galaxy not near a gate. Millions of years for species to advance on their own, never to interact with species near gates.

would've been a neat twist if the reapers were hiding within the Milky way, just somewhat far from relays. The call is coming from inside the galaxy!

[Vergil]

I tried Andromeda multiple times with multiple different versions/sources and it had persistence crash and weird audio bugs. I was curious to try it out at least.

[A Chinese opium den]

Andromeda wasn't anywhere near as bad as the yewtoobers said. It was probably the first game that got piled on for clicks, I guess?
Not saying it's good, but it's more like ... Idk, 6.5/10. It's definitely better than Inquisition which got slobbed on.

Afaik it was actually profitable, they just kneejerk reacted to feedback.

It's really ugly so actually it was as bad as everyone said.

[rusty_shackleford]

Andromeda wasn't anywhere near as bad as the yewtoobers said. It was probably the first game that got piled on for clicks, I guess?
Not saying it's good, but it's more like ... Idk, 6.5/10. It's definitely better than Inquisition which got slobbed on.

Afaik it was actually profitable, they just kneejerk reacted to feedback.

It's really ugly so actually it was as bad as everyone said.

Ehh I'll give you the characters, environments were fine tho

[A Chinese opium den]

Andromeda wasn't anywhere near as bad as the yewtoobers said. It was probably the first game that got piled on for clicks, I guess?
Not saying it's good, but it's more like ... Idk, 6.5/10. It's definitely better than Inquisition which got slobbed on.

Afaik it was actually profitable, they just kneejerk reacted to feedback.

It's really ugly so actually it was as bad as everyone said.

Ehh I'll give you the characters, environments were fine tho

If ugly people on good environments are fine now we need a finarfin apology form.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's really ugly so actually it was as bad as everyone said.

Ehh I'll give you the characters, environments were fine tho

If ugly people on good environments are fine now we need a finarfin apology form.

When you want to play a planet hopping sci-fi game with RPG elements, you don't have very many choices.

[rusty_shackleford]

I like how mass effect doesn't address the areas of the galaxy not near a gate. Millions of years for species to advance on their own, never to interact with species near gates.

The amount of time it would take to colonize our galaxy is surprisingly small. With assumptions of traveling at fractions of the speed of light, I think it would take somewhere about a million years? Yes, that means either aliens are on their way to kill us or we're all alone, as earth is fairly young.
Not addressing this is a rather big plothole tbh. Reapers have been at it for millions of years.

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Was off by an order of magnitude in time, still small in comparison.

[Vergil]

I wonder if there are any mods for Androgymeda that make it less ******

[logincrash]

Andromeda is not a good game. It's an okay 3rd person shooter, but the whole reason to play BioWare games (the story and the characters) is diarrhea coming out of a buffalo's ***. The writing is atrocious. The tone is all over the place. The stupid ******* "precursor race" thing is a hasty attempt to explain away what should've been a huge part of the story - namely terraforming and colonizing planets.
The new aliens look like ****, the environments are varied but are entirely something you'd find on Earth (scorching desert, snowy tundra, dense jungle, arid mountains) except for the first planet with floating rocks and the last hollow Earth area.
It's also more pozzed than Inquisition, with outspoken ******** and Asari saying that their pronouns are "she/they," even though never once were they referred to as such in any previous ME game. All the leaders are strong independent girlbosses. The protagonist Ryder is a dumb ****** that nobody takes seriously.
No amount of mods, of which most are visual, fixes any of that.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's also more pozzed than Inquisition,

this is false tho

[rusty_shackleford]

the only straight woman you can romance in DAI is canonically almost 40 years old and was designed to look like a male btw

[traxtan]

Andromeda wasn't anywhere near as bad

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I have 50+ hours on the game and I don't remember anything from it except the 8 year old YouTube memes and that crowbcat video.

[logincrash]

the only straight woman you can romance in DAI is canonically almost 40 years old and was designed to look like a male btw

The only romanceable straight woman in Andromeda is a butterface with a pig snout and a sidecut.

[rusty_shackleford]

Andromeda wasn't anywhere near as bad

I have 50+ hours on the game and I don't remember anything from it except the 8 year old YouTube memes and that crowbcat video.

it's just a meh game, the videos pretend it's some huge faceplant on the same tier as no man's sky at release

[rusty_shackleford]

the only straight woman you can romance in DAI is canonically almost 40 years old and was designed to look like a male btw

The only romanceable straight woman in Andromeda is a butterface with a pig snout and a sidecut.

cisquisition has an actual ****** you get lectured about and why xhe's just as good as a man or woman or whatever it was by a creature from a society built entirely around strict gender roles determining your lot in life

[logincrash]

the only straight woman you can romance in DAI is canonically almost 40 years old and was designed to look like a male btw

The only romanceable straight woman in Andromeda is a butterface with a pig snout and a sidecut.

cisquisition has an actual ****** you get lectured about and why xhe's just as good as a man or woman or whatever it was by a creature from a society built entirely around strict gender roles determining your lot in life

Andromeda has an Asari VI give a lecture on pronouns and there's a ***** in one of the settlements that declares that he's a ***** in the first dialogue you have with him.

[rusty_shackleford]

there's a ***** in one of the settlements that declares that he's a ***** in the first dialogue you have with him.

had to go look this up, they removed it in a patch
cisquisition ****** is a major part of the story regarding a companion

[traxtan]

it's just a meh game, the videos pretend it's some huge faceplant on the same tier as no man's sky at release

Just because the quality of games went down doesn't mean old trash is suddenly good. It's a **** game and the only reason I could finish it was because of the recency bias from finishing the Legendary Edition.

[rusty_shackleford]

it's just a meh game, the videos pretend it's some huge faceplant on the same tier as no man's sky at release

Just because the quality of games went down doesn't mean old trash is suddenly good. It's a **** game and the only reason I could finish it was because of the recency bias from finishing the Legendary Edition.

but I never said it was good, I said it was meh, and it is.
youtube clickbaiters pretended it was some massive failure, same people probably fellated veilguard

[Vergil]

youtube clickbaiters pretended it was some massive failure

I understand what you're saying but it was such a failure it caused EA to cancel the other two planned games in the series as well as a spin off show and multiple books/comics and the franchise has been dead until a teaser trailer a year or two ago.

[rusty_shackleford]

youtube clickbaiters pretended it was some massive failure

I understand what you're saying but it was such a failure it caused EA to cancel the other two planned games in the series as well as a spin off show and multiple books/comics and the franchise has been dead until a teaser trailer a year or two ago.

sure, it was a kneejerk reaction to the negative coverage
and I deem the coverage as false

especially since it mostly focused on things I didn't care about(i.e., bugs that would be fixed) rather than female characters being ugly

[Vergil]

sure, it was a kneejerk reaction to the negative coverage

I just personally don't think it adds up that a company would trash a money maker for a decade because of negative media coverage alone.

[rusty_shackleford]

sure, it was a kneejerk reaction to the negative coverage

I just personally don't think it adds up that a company would trash a money maker for a decade because of negative media coverage alone.

We already know this because of stuff ex-bioware employees have said. It got trashed by critics before it even released
https://opencritic.com/game/1547/mass-effect-andromeda

if they had waited another year or two to release it, most of those low scores would have been higher just due to anti-GG bias and andromeda's social messaging

and yes, andromeda was a financial success, the reason support was pulled was the overwhelming negative coverage from reviewers and content creators. EA touted it as a main contributor to their improved finances in the relevant quarter report:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin ... rd-on-dlc/

EA's CFO later commented that its sales were "really strong" when asked about it, stating it was opposite what you'd expect due to the negative coverage

[rusty_shackleford]

as to (the real reason) why they didn't do any DLC, my guess would be that bioware wanted to cannibalize the team ASAP because they were in the middle of trying to get Anthem out the door. They were doing the same thing to their Austin studio.
Bioware has a long history of poaching employees from their satellite studios, treating the satellite studios like ****, etc.(a lot of this, which was known by those who pay attention, came out into the open after anthem flopped), It was common for bioware fans to refer to bioware's "A-team", "B-team", and "C-team"
(any fan of SWTOR can also tell you this, fwiw. The game basically went into hibernation because of bioware taking SWTOR's devs)

bioware montreal got folded into EA motive, and EA motive worked on anthem from right after andromeda's release to anthem launch
https://kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem- ... 1833731964

This final year was when Anthem began to materialize, and it became one of the most stressful years in BioWare’s history. There was pressure within the studio, as many teams had to put in late nights and weekends just to make up for the time they’d lost. There was pressure from EA, as executive Samantha Ryan brought in teams from all across the publisher, including developers from outside studios like Motive in Montreal, to close out the game.

I don't think anyone has ever revealed why bioware has(had?) so much pull with EA over the years, any other studio would have been taken out back and shot long ago

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Also, it would be more clear but including everyone in credits has completely ****** up credits by making them have useless people in them. Either way, Anthem & Mass Effect Andromeda are both each other's #1 credits overlap

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the MEA team got moved right on to Anthem the moment it was out the door

[Vergil]

This is such a genuinely ******** move on EA's part that part of me still kinda refuses to believe it and that they're basically blustering when they praise Andromeda's sales especially in material dated from around it's release as game devs always do but it is true EA is well known for their ******** decisions.

I don't think anyone has ever revealed why bioware has(had?) so much pull with EA over the years, any other studio would have been taken out back and shot long ago

I assume it's because Bioware is considered a prestige developer that had a lot of marketing potential just on their name and pedigree alone.