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Lol of course the game is woke, we knew from the dev vidoc that they were fat **** pushing this ****. Also, do you remember hearing the dialogue in the short snippet of the clearly-black-but-not-human character?

This game is going to flop like the others. I wonder if they'll backtrack on stupid **** like pronouns before release. My guess is no.

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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 22:17
Roguey wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 21:58
BG3 has pronouns: I sleep.
No, I was quite angry at that because it was added after the game was already available for sale for over a year.

Wow didn’t know this, that actually makes it worse.
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If I can be honest it looks better than I've expected but that just says something about the expectations I've had so far. Still not worth bothering unless I'll be super bored.
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carnivoresheep wrote: November 24th, 2024, 18:02
If I can be honest it looks better than I've expected but that just says something about the expectations I've had so far. Still not worth bothering unless I'll be super bored.
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Didn't Dragon Age: The Veilguard suddenly take on a stylized art style instead of the expected realistic art style established by the first entries? I heard a statement from someone saying that the DEI hires can't do realistic graphics well enough, so they have to do CGI fantasy styled graphics instead of realistic styled, in order to lower the bar and prevent modeling/texturing faults from becoming too obvious and laughed at like Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees". That game was also infested with DEI propaganda, like the pronouns now seen in Avowed, which also has a cartoony artstyle (early posts showed the art style being compared to Sea of Thieves). With stuff like the "Getting Started with Representation" article from Xbox, this might be a sign Xbox is trying to shove in other DEI elements into the game.

In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
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Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
Didn't Dragon Age: The Veilguard suddenly take on a stylized art style instead of the expected realistic art style established by the first entries? I heard a statement from someone saying that the DEI hires can't do realistic graphics well enough, so they have to do CGI fantasy styled graphics instead of realistic styled, in order to lower the bar and prevent modeling/texturing faults from becoming too obvious and laughed at like Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees". That game was also infested with DEI propaganda, like the pronouns now seen in Avowed, which also has a cartoony artstyle (early posts showed the art style being compared to Sea of Thieves). With stuff like the "Getting Started with Representation" article from Xbox, this might be a sign Xbox is trying to shove in other DEI elements into the game.

In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
Information coming from two separate leakers at Bioware indicate that management was for certain exclusively promoting new diversity hires to all positions, especially leads.
Then asking the passed over male staff to assist and mentor them in their new positions (because they knew they were at best woefully inexperienced, if not actually untalented and incompetent).
Discussions in these groups were apparently mind-boggling, even aside from the woke stuff, as they continuously asked each other how they should go about doing industry standard things that hires used to be expected to have mastered.
Team leaders couldn't lead, instead holding group sessions to try to figure out how to meet or change deadlines or requirements when it was clear that not only were they not going to meet them, but they were not capable of doing so.
The leakers both indicated that they left them hanging out of both spite and the hopes that the executives could see what harm they'd done, but then the toxic positivity lying movement started and the executives jumped on as well.

That's how you get what they released, with them having no real clue it was ****.
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Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees"
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Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
As much as I hate current year Obsidian, I imagine some other game will take the cake in 2025 of being next year's Dragon Age: The Veilguard. Despite being woke ****, Obsidian will not reach or surpass the depths of depravity of BioWare.
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Irenaeus wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:59
Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
As much as I hate current year Obsidian, I imagine some other game will take the cake in 2025 of being next year's Dragon Age: The Veilguard. Despite being woke ****, Obsidian will not reach or surpass the depths of depravity of BioWare.
Bioware: a foul-mouthed pirate wench "bharves" while the haughty alphabet elite blandly watches the peasant grovel for, not forgiveness, but simply to let it pass...
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Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
Didn't Dragon Age: The Veilguard suddenly take on a stylized art style instead of the expected realistic art style established by the first entries? I heard a statement from someone saying that the DEI hires can't do realistic graphics well enough, so they have to do CGI fantasy styled graphics instead of realistic styled, in order to lower the bar and prevent modeling/texturing faults from becoming too obvious and laughed at like Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees". That game was also infested with DEI propaganda, like the pronouns now seen in Avowed, which also has a cartoony artstyle (early posts showed the art style being compared to Sea of Thieves). With stuff like the "Getting Started with Representation" article from Xbox, this might be a sign Xbox is trying to shove in other DEI elements into the game.

In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
Whatever you're smoking, lay off it. As long as Avowed won't give me the option to have surgery scars or any of that ****, it is not as bad as Veilguard.
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Finarfin wrote: November 24th, 2024, 22:31
Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
Didn't Dragon Age: The Veilguard suddenly take on a stylized art style instead of the expected realistic art style established by the first entries? I heard a statement from someone saying that the DEI hires can't do realistic graphics well enough, so they have to do CGI fantasy styled graphics instead of realistic styled, in order to lower the bar and prevent modeling/texturing faults from becoming too obvious and laughed at like Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees". That game was also infested with DEI propaganda, like the pronouns now seen in Avowed, which also has a cartoony artstyle (early posts showed the art style being compared to Sea of Thieves). With stuff like the "Getting Started with Representation" article from Xbox, this might be a sign Xbox is trying to shove in other DEI elements into the game.

In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
Whatever you're smoking, lay off it. As long as Avowed won't give me the option to have surgery scars or any of that ****, it is not as bad as Veilguard.
Also, there will be no transgender romances. Mostly because there are no romances at all in the game, but still, makes it better than Feilguard.
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PixiGreen wrote: November 24th, 2024, 22:46
Finarfin wrote: November 24th, 2024, 22:31
Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
Didn't Dragon Age: The Veilguard suddenly take on a stylized art style instead of the expected realistic art style established by the first entries? I heard a statement from someone saying that the DEI hires can't do realistic graphics well enough, so they have to do CGI fantasy styled graphics instead of realistic styled, in order to lower the bar and prevent modeling/texturing faults from becoming too obvious and laughed at like Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees". That game was also infested with DEI propaganda, like the pronouns now seen in Avowed, which also has a cartoony artstyle (early posts showed the art style being compared to Sea of Thieves). With stuff like the "Getting Started with Representation" article from Xbox, this might be a sign Xbox is trying to shove in other DEI elements into the game.

In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
Whatever you're smoking, lay off it. As long as Avowed won't give me the option to have surgery scars or any of that ****, it is not as bad as Veilguard.
Also, there will be no transgender romances. Mostly because there are no romances at all in the game, but still, makes it better than Feilguard.
I think I did say it somewhere but if the romances would be BG3-tier, I am thankful for Obsidian not putting any in.
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That asexual **** **** in Obsidian's The Outer Worlds was the dictionary definition of cringe and gay.
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Finarfin wrote: November 24th, 2024, 22:31
Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
Didn't Dragon Age: The Veilguard suddenly take on a stylized art style instead of the expected realistic art style established by the first entries? I heard a statement from someone saying that the DEI hires can't do realistic graphics well enough, so they have to do CGI fantasy styled graphics instead of realistic styled, in order to lower the bar and prevent modeling/texturing faults from becoming too obvious and laughed at like Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees". That game was also infested with DEI propaganda, like the pronouns now seen in Avowed, which also has a cartoony artstyle (early posts showed the art style being compared to Sea of Thieves). With stuff like the "Getting Started with Representation" article from Xbox, this might be a sign Xbox is trying to shove in other DEI elements into the game.

In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
Whatever you're smoking, lay off it. As long as Avowed won't give me the option to have surgery scars or any of that ****, it is not as bad as Veilguard.
Isn't this how the Overton window shifts?
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OnTilt wrote: November 25th, 2024, 03:04
Finarfin wrote: November 24th, 2024, 22:31
Tag365 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 21:49
Didn't Dragon Age: The Veilguard suddenly take on a stylized art style instead of the expected realistic art style established by the first entries? I heard a statement from someone saying that the DEI hires can't do realistic graphics well enough, so they have to do CGI fantasy styled graphics instead of realistic styled, in order to lower the bar and prevent modeling/texturing faults from becoming too obvious and laughed at like Pokémon Sword and Shield's infamous "N64 trees". That game was also infested with DEI propaganda, like the pronouns now seen in Avowed, which also has a cartoony artstyle (early posts showed the art style being compared to Sea of Thieves). With stuff like the "Getting Started with Representation" article from Xbox, this might be a sign Xbox is trying to shove in other DEI elements into the game.

In other words, Avowed might be Dragon Age: The Veilguard 2025. Or Skyrim Edition, if you like, presuming the original was God of War 2018 edition or Hogwarts Legacy edition.
Whatever you're smoking, lay off it. As long as Avowed won't give me the option to have surgery scars or any of that ****, it is not as bad as Veilguard.
Isn't this how the Overton window shifts?
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It's using unreal engine so it will be another unmoddable forgettable title with no lasting legacy. Not saying modding would have saved it, but it might have at least improved it and gave it longevity.
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Rand wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 20:43

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Pronouns discovered in Avowed's character screen in video listed below.

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Cued up to the appropriate time:
...****. I had a slight tinge of hope for this one before opening the thread. Was pretty blind as I try to be for new experiences, but I'm glad I found out about this beforehand.
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For whatever reason theyve been keeping it undiscovered for so long.
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Valter wrote: November 25th, 2024, 04:40

RIP Obsidian, I'll always remember you at your finest: KOTOR II and Tyranny.
Alpha Protocol will always be my personal favourite from Obsidian.
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Yankee Zulu wrote: November 25th, 2024, 10:12
For whatever reason theyve been keeping it undiscovered for so long.
They would not let a single one of the people they let preview it record character creation.
They claimed "spoilers" or some *********, but now we know why.
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Rand wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:21
They would not let a single one of the people they let preview it record character creation.
They claimed "spoilers" or some *********, but now we know why.
They're proud about being inclusive, they wouldn't hide it. And if they were trying to hide it, they also wouldn't let it show up clear as day in preview videos.
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Roguey wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:38
they also wouldn't let it show up clear as day in preview videos.
They didn't let the previewers record footage of character creation.
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Roguey wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:38
Rand wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:21
They would not let a single one of the people they let preview it record character creation.
They claimed "spoilers" or some *********, but now we know why.
They're proud about being inclusive, they wouldn't hide it. And if they were trying to hide it, they also wouldn't let it show up clear as day in preview videos.
After Veilguard and such, the marketing team were clearly given orders by the financial people that could see the backlash coming.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 22:14
Roguey wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 21:58
BG3 has pronouns: I sleep.
Avowed has pronouns: Real ****.
Both are bad.
At least you can ******* mod BG3
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BG3 adding pronouns was the moment Swen lost control of his own company to activist employees.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 25th, 2024, 14:04
BG3 adding pronouns was the moment Swen lost control of his own company to activist employees.
how do you know that? What if Swen became a libtard himsel?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:47
Roguey wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:38
they also wouldn't let it show up clear as day in preview videos.
They didn't let the previewers record footage of character creation.
But they did let them record footage of the character screen. If they were truly pronoun-reveal-averse, they would have forbidden them for showing that as well.

Rand wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:55
Roguey wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:38
Rand wrote: November 25th, 2024, 12:21
They would not let a single one of the people they let preview it record character creation.
They claimed "spoilers" or some *********, but now we know why.
They're proud about being inclusive, they wouldn't hide it. And if they were trying to hide it, they also wouldn't let it show up clear as day in preview videos.
After Veilguard and such, the marketing team were clearly given orders by the financial people that could see the backlash coming.
Veilguard was released October 31st. These previews happened... last week? Two weeks ago? It takes time to write all this stuff up, edit videos. It is way too soon for any large company to make any kind of shift in response. These ships can't turn on a dime.
wndrbr wrote: November 25th, 2024, 14:22
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 25th, 2024, 14:04
BG3 adding pronouns was the moment Swen lost control of his own company to activist employees.
how do you know that? What if Swen became a libtard himsel?
Swen in 2015: "Where are all the freakin women?!?!?!?!" http://web.archive.org/web/201602071343 ... the-women/
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Roguey wrote: November 25th, 2024, 14:39
Swen in 2015: "Where are all the freakin women?!?!?!?!" http://web.archive.org/web/201602071343 ... the-women/
The question is: is he the type of libtard to quickly develop a strong support for something as ******** as "gender identity," or is he the type of libtard to do it begrudgingly to appease others?
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