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Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:16
Reddit having another meltdown. ******** degenerates, every last one of them i swear to ******* god. You can imagine what the comments are like.

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Of all things to ever see... WHO could have ever seen?! :shock:
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Yes. Bg3 mod manager is broken. So stay on patch 6, at least until i make these mods fully compatible with Larian's mod manager
What happens when the ******* start melting down over this and Larian invariably nukes it? What would make it different from what happens over at Nexus?

I don't say this to be combative, I want nothing more than to have this mod fully available to all, but it's a very probable possibility. I'm just curious about the backup plan.
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BizarrelyNormal wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:52
Yes. Bg3 mod manager is broken. So stay on patch 6, at least until i make these mods fully compatible with Larian's mod manager
What happens when the ******* start melting down over this and Larian invariably nukes it? What would make it different from what happens over at Nexus?

I don't say this to be combative, I want nothing more than to have this mod fully available to all, but it's a very probable possibility. I'm just curious about the backup plan.
I can make it so you just drop the pak files of mods in the mod folder and everything will work perfectly fine. u won't neeed a mod manager

worst comes to worst i can simply alter game files directly.

larian won't nuke modding. u got nothing to worry about.
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BG3MM was updated
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BizarrelyNormal wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:52
Yes. Bg3 mod manager is broken. So stay on patch 6, at least until i make these mods fully compatible with Larian's mod manager
What happens when the ******* start melting down over this and Larian invariably nukes it? What would make it different from what happens over at Nexus?

I don't say this to be combative, I want nothing more than to have this mod fully available to all, but it's a very probable possibility. I'm just curious about the backup plan.
Companies can't control mods unless the modders are pussies.

All those mods and emulators that just gave up? Pussies.
I don't know why they fold so easily.
They literally can't police the internet.
Make your **** and post it on sites that don't give a ****.
If they're good, people will come.
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Have you had a chance to test it the components of No Alphabets yet, lore? Will be a while before I get a chance to do so :sad:
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 16:24
Have you had a chance to test it the components of No Alphabets yet, lore? Will be a while before I get a chance to do so :sad:
Not yet. CCreator needs to be redone for sure, but I will test today
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Mod seems to work on Patch 7 @orinEsque
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The mod, however, does NOT show in Larian's mod manager. I had to use BG3MM to enable the mods
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I think the issue may be that if a pak file overrides any vanilla assets, then it gets borked and doesn't show in Larian's ****** Mods menu
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We should probably just continue support for BG3MM as the way to handle our mods. You can't do load order management anyway @orinEsque
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loregamer wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 16:56
I think the issue may be that if a pak file overrides any vanilla assets, then it gets borked and doesn't show in Larian's ****** Mods menu
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Hmmm it doesn't iike overrides eh? All voice line changes are overrides. Can't get around it... unless modding tools has something.
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loregamer wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 16:56
I think the issue may be that if a pak file overrides any vanilla assets, then it gets borked and doesn't show in Larian's ****** Mods menu
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We should probably just continue support for BG3MM as the way to handle our mods. You can't do load order management anyway @orinEsque
Hey wait a minute! Improved UI was an override! How did that get past!?
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loregamer wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 16:56
I think the issue may be that if a pak file overrides any vanilla assets, then it gets borked and doesn't show in Larian's ****** Mods menu
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We should probably just continue support for BG3MM as the way to handle our mods. You can't do load order management anyway @orinEsque
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 17:00
Hey wait a minute! Improved UI was an override! How did that get past!?
New file structure? Maybe we can put Override files directly into the Mods folder now :scratch:
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Here's how it was in Patch 6:
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I'll figure it out later. For now, using BG3MM works alright

This will be how we have to move files around:
https://mod.io/g/baldursgate3/r/convert ... to-toolkit
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Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:16
Reddit having another meltdown. ******** degenerates, every last one of them i swear to ******* god. You can imagine what the comments are like.

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From what I remember, the wusses that moderate Reddit are now actively banning even the slightest mention of this mod, so I would be surprised if that thread hasn't been nuked already. lol
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 21:42
Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:16
Reddit having another meltdown. ******** degenerates, every last one of them i swear to ******* god. You can imagine what the comments are like.

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From what I remember, the wusses that moderate Reddit are now actively banning even the slightest mention of this mod, so I would be surprised if that thread hasn't been nuked already. lol
Imagine going to BG3 Reddit. Shits the most toxic community in living memory.
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Thank you, for your continued work on this. I think I'm finally going to play the whole game (and enjoy it this time) after Patch 7 stuff gets sorted out.
(I was a dumbass and actually bought BG3 on Steam not realizing how much stupid gay **** was in the game. I ended up dropping it before I even finished Act 1 hoping someone, such as yourselves, would save me from their mandatory, all-inclusive pridefest. I very much appreciate your work.)
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Just made an account here to thank you and acknowledge your work here and on your Wylls of Toril mods. Thank you for keeping up with patch 7. As a straight woman who just wants an immersive, historically plausible setting in a fictional world, your work has completely made BG3 enjoyable. Thank you for all that you do and I can’t wait to play BG3 again! I had to revert back to Patch6 and delay a resist Durge play through but it’s totally worth it knowing you haven’t abandoned us. Forget the haters on Reddit - you’re doing righteous work.
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Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:16
Reddit having another meltdown. ******** degenerates, every last one of them i swear to ******* god. You can imagine what the comments are like.

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Well, in all fairness, the person who claims he would like to play a character murdering every gay NPC in sight does sound like he has a chip on his shoulder. I mean, I get it, he's ****** having LGBTQ content shoved down his throat, but I also get why his comment would make the woke point at him and make our side look 'bad'.

At any rate, are the modding tools allowing us to have quest mods or add interactions with NPCs? So that we can expand characters like Minthara or Halsin?
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Improved UI got an update, but now has a major issue with load order, the numeration is ******, you can't drag mods like you used to to establish the order as instructed (like with Wylls of Toril optional files, Community Library, Half-Tiefs, etc.) :headbang: Also, has anyone tried their new toolkit? Can an average noob like me make his own presets without diving into ******** Blender "manuals" and "tutorials"?
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So, do I understand correctly that this mod will not be shown on larian mod manager ?
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Mod works, but if you also use BetterAestheticsW it shows up in the in-game mod manager and i guess keeps overwriting NoAlphabetAestetics, regardless of the load order. I use lampray on linux.
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b314c wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 14:28
Mod works, but if you also use BetterAestheticsW it shows up in the in-game mod manager and i guess keeps overwriting NoAlphabetAestetics, regardless of the load order. I use lampray on linux.
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To do: at packing priority on modders' end of No alphabets to be higher than BBA. beard mod higher than Aesthetics.

Edit: update Bg3 mod manager and i think the problem should go away
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BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 05:05
Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:16
Reddit having another meltdown. ******** degenerates, every last one of them i swear to ******* god. You can imagine what the comments are like.

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Well, in all fairness, the person who claims he would like to play a character murdering every gay NPC in sight does sound like he has a chip on his shoulder. I mean, I get it, he's ****** having LGBTQ content shoved down his throat, but I also get why his comment would make the woke point at him and make our side look 'bad'.

At any rate, are the modding tools allowing us to have quest mods or add interactions with NPCs? So that we can expand characters like Minthara or Halsin?
In all fairness, caring about a little LGBT representation in a game is childish, and having it exist in a game in no way constitutes that content being shoved down anyone's throat. People that get offended by LGBT content are just as annoying as those that demand representation. It's all crybaby nonsense.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 14:37
To do: at packing priority on modders' end of No alphabets to be higher than BBA. beard mod higher than Aesthetics.
Can you make 2 versions? One with higher priority than BBA, other with lower, please?
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 16:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 14:37
To do: at packing priority on modders' end of No alphabets to be higher than BBA. beard mod higher than Aesthetics.
Can you make 2 versions? One with higher priority than BBA, other with lower, please?
BBA will be obsolete soon. So I don't want to waste time on that.
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Slepkahva wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 16:02
BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 05:05
Bing_xiLim wrote: ↑ September 6th, 2024, 12:16
Reddit having another meltdown. ******** degenerates, every last one of them i swear to ******* god. You can imagine what the comments are like.

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Well, in all fairness, the person who claims he would like to play a character murdering every gay NPC in sight does sound like he has a chip on his shoulder. I mean, I get it, he's ****** having LGBTQ content shoved down his throat, but I also get why his comment would make the woke point at him and make our side look 'bad'.

At any rate, are the modding tools allowing us to have quest mods or add interactions with NPCs? So that we can expand characters like Minthara or Halsin?
In all fairness, caring about a little LGBT representation in a game is childish, and having it exist in a game in no way constitutes that content being shoved down anyone's throat. People that get offended by LGBT content are just as annoying as those that demand representation. It's all crybaby nonsense.
No it isn't. It's immersion breaking. Anyone publicly saying they were gay in 1400s would be imprisoned, lynched, burned. I personally wouldn't give too much of a crap in a modern day western setting. but BG3 isn't a modern day western setting.
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Slepkahva wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 16:02
having it exist in a game in no way constitutes that content being shoved down anyone's throat.
It does, actually. The fact that you say that shows that either you haven't played this game at all, or you have indeed played it and are thus actively lying with malicious intent.
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If they really wanted lgbtq representation, the yshould have had us save a gay from being burnt at the stake, or perhaps meet one in a shady ally, peddling for gay sex with thinly veiled innuendos. These writers are terrible. There would have been ways to fit them in n without it breaking immersion but they're too ******** to figure it out.
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 19:24
Slepkahva wrote: ↑ September 7th, 2024, 16:02
having it exist in a game in no way constitutes that content being shoved down anyone's throat.
It does, actually. The fact that you say that shows that either you haven't played this game at all, or you have indeed played it and are thus actively lying with malicious intent.
Well, I for one, found it really immersion breaking and lame. I chose to play as a Male Paladin and right away this gay vampire starts flirting with me and then tries to molest me in my sleep (which logically all just makes no sense). Then when I kill his *** to hopefully solve that issue, I soon after find out that you can never be nice, and always need to be careful what you say, otherwise all your super horny party members want to have gay sex with you. I know I can "just kill them", but I like having party members. I just wanted brothers in arms and normal camaraderie, not dudes that immediately act like flirty, gay, sissies. It's just all stupid and completely unnecessary. If you're going to include this garbage at least let us toggle if off in the options.