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Roguey wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:09
Her birth name is Isabella, she changed it to Baudelaire. Must really like that poet.
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reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
post-EA larian had no idea who its target customer was.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:42
reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
what
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:51
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:42
reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
what
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:42
reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
post-EA larian had no idea who its target customer was.
Only 33% of Halsin romancers even going for the bear option should be one of those stats that make Swen reconsider even bothering with such options in the future. In an ideal world anyway.
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Roguey wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:13
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:42
reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
post-EA larian had no idea who its target customer was.
Only 33% of Halsin romancers even going for the bear option should be one of those stats that make Swen reconsider even bothering with such options in the future. In an ideal world anyway.
The vast majority of players not engaging in homosexual romances would make a publisher who cares about wasting money not bother with them. And yet…
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:16
Roguey wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:13
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:42
reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
post-EA larian had no idea who its target customer was.
Only 33% of Halsin romancers even going for the bear option should be one of those stats that make Swen reconsider even bothering with such options in the future. In an ideal world anyway.
The vast majority of players not engaging in homosexual romances would make a publisher who cares about wasting money not bother with them. And yet…
Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:26
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:16
Roguey wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:13


Only 33% of Halsin romancers even going for the bear option should be one of those stats that make Swen reconsider even bothering with such options in the future. In an ideal world anyway.
The vast majority of players not engaging in homosexual romances would make a publisher who cares about wasting money not bother with them. And yet…
Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
They do it for free.
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Roguey wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:13
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:42
reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
post-EA larian had no idea who its target customer was.
Only 33% of Halsin romancers even going for the bear option should be one of those stats that make Swen reconsider even bothering with such options in the future. In an ideal world anyway.
Yeah but it makes up for a lot of publicity for the game (bad publicity is still publicity)
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:26
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:16
Roguey wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:13


Only 33% of Halsin romancers even going for the bear option should be one of those stats that make Swen reconsider even bothering with such options in the future. In an ideal world anyway.
The vast majority of players not engaging in homosexual romances would make a publisher who cares about wasting money not bother with them. And yet…
Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
BG3 is one of the few cases where going woke gave actual profit
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Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:26
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:16


The vast majority of players not engaging in homosexual romances would make a publisher who cares about wasting money not bother with them. And yet…
Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
BG3 is one of the few cases where going woke gave actual profit
BG3 sold because the game is good.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:19
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:26

Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
BG3 is one of the few cases where going woke gave actual profit
BG3 sold because the game is good.
Right. Its not a rare case of being woke resulting in profit. Its a rare case of a game being woke and also good.
You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:19
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:26

Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
BG3 is one of the few cases where going woke gave actual profit
BG3 sold because the game is good.
One event can have multiple causes, you know. Not all good games sold as well as BG3...
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MordiB wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 04:47
I'm inquiring if it is at all possible to swap the models & animations of two characters for one cut-scene then go back to normal after its finished. I was really enjoying romancing Karlach in a recent run until i got to the sex scene after the date night, Im sure there are others who don't mind it but it looked super weird and off-putting to me when Karlach picked up my Strong type male character and flip him on to his back and started to play with what looked like to me to be his *******. i think the scene could still work if i could swap the two with the MC taking charge.

Is it possible to change this so it looks like the main character takes the leads or would I be signing up for a nightmare of a task?
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Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:23
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:19
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:18


BG3 is one of the few cases where going woke gave actual profit
BG3 sold because the game is good.
One event can have multiple causes, you know. Not all good games sold as well as BG3...
Most of those good games don't have a recognizable developer attached to it, Larian was already known for their success with DOS2.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:24
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:23
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:19


BG3 sold because the game is good.
One event can have multiple causes, you know. Not all good games sold as well as BG3...
Most of those good games don't have a recognizable developer attached to it, Larian was already known for their success with DOS2.
Sure, being good and having a famous developer are two major causes. I give going woke as another cause because it made the game particularly popular between the alphabet crowd, which gave it a lot more publicity and want it or not the woke crowd do have money to spare.
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Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:26
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:24
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:23


One event can have multiple causes, you know. Not all good games sold as well as BG3...
Most of those good games don't have a recognizable developer attached to it, Larian was already known for their success with DOS2.
Sure, being good and having a famous developer are two major causes. I give going woke as another cause because it made the game particularly popular between the alphabet crowd, which gave it a lot more publicity and want it or not the woke crowd do have money to spare.
If they were a significant factor then the top romance wouldn't be shadowcute by a mile. Same with no male being a popular romance at all.
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Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:26
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:16


The vast majority of players not engaging in homosexual romances would make a publisher who cares about wasting money not bother with them. And yet…
Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
BG3 is one of the few cases where going woke gave actual profit
If they added another female romance option or simply expanded the existing ones I think it would have sold better.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:27
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:26
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:24


Most of those good games don't have a recognizable developer attached to it, Larian was already known for their success with DOS2.
Sure, being good and having a famous developer are two major causes. I give going woke as another cause because it made the game particularly popular between the alphabet crowd, which gave it a lot more publicity and want it or not the woke crowd do have money to spare.
If they were a significant factor then the top romance wouldn't be shadowcute by a mile. Same with no male being a popular romance at all.
We have different definitions of significant. 51% sure is a lot and by a mile as you said but the other 49% can't be called "insignificant". It's the difference between selling well or being the top of the top as BG3 became.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:27
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:26

Tencent, Blackrock and Vangard is probably giving them exorbitant amounts for pedo-signalling.
BG3 is one of the few cases where going woke gave actual profit
If they added another female romance option or simply expanded the existing ones I think it would have sold better.
I myself would have preferred more gameplay focus instead of more romances. If anything romance gained too much focus in this game imo
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Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:30
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:27
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:26


Sure, being good and having a famous developer are two major causes. I give going woke as another cause because it made the game particularly popular between the alphabet crowd, which gave it a lot more publicity and want it or not the woke crowd do have money to spare.
If they were a significant factor then the top romance wouldn't be shadowcute by a mile. Same with no male being a popular romance at all.
We have different definitions of significant. 51% sure is a lot and by a mile as you said but the other 49% can't be called "insignificant". It's the difference between selling well or being the top of the top as BG3 became.
The other 49% includes playthroughs that didn't romance anyone. That's how popular the evil male gaze is.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:32
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:30
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:27


If they were a significant factor then the top romance wouldn't be shadowcute by a mile. Same with no male being a popular romance at all.
We have different definitions of significant. 51% sure is a lot and by a mile as you said but the other 49% can't be called "insignificant". It's the difference between selling well or being the top of the top as BG3 became.
The other 49% includes playthroughs that didn't romance anyone. That's how popular the evil male gaze is.
Apparently Larian didn't give the exact numbers for each romance option other than Shadowheart (at least not that I could find with a quick googleing) so this argument can't be more developed.

But here's what I can conclude: Larian was successful at catering enough to the majorities that they'd buy the game, while still being able to appease the alphabet crowd, which gave the game a lot of publicity and they bought the game themselves, and all of these factors are what made BG3 be the best seller it became.
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i immediately kill karlach because she is a caricature and extremely gay
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-Be Karlach
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pieface wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 23:51
i immediately kill karlach because she is a caricature and extremely gay
I recommend sacrificing her to booal
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:16
Roguey wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 19:13
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 18:42
reminder that shadowcute made up the majority of romances, which included games where no character was romanced.
post-EA larian had no idea who its target customer was.
Only 33% of Halsin romancers even going for the bear option should be one of those stats that make Swen reconsider even bothering with such options in the future. In an ideal world anyway.
The vast majority of players not engaging in homosexual romances would make a publisher who cares about wasting money not bother with them. And yet…
We have to remember that normies like the "thought " of that **** being in their game or media even if they don't actively engage with it. The signaling they get to do that they are playing a diverse "*****" game is very important to them. They would be the first to be upset if that stuff wasn't there even if they didn't actually play a ****** character or whatever.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 15:48
Eeeew,
And yes it's possible. If anyone's interested, I can give you some pointers, but last thing I'm gonna do is sit there replaying some ****'s sex scenes.
I would like to take a crack at it, I genuinely like karlach and would be happy to correct this.
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MordiB wrote: ↑ March 5th, 2024, 03:11
orinEsque wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 15:48
Eeeew,
And yes it's possible. If anyone's interested, I can give you some pointers, but last thing I'm gonna do is sit there replaying some ****'s sex scenes.
I would like to take a crack at it, I genuinely like karlach and would be happy to correct this.
First to get a hang of BG3MT modding basics: viewtopic.php?t=1617-bg3-modding-bg3-getting-started
(You need to extract the Shared.pak mainly)

You will find Karlach's Cinematics within these cinematic files
UnpackedData\Shared\Public\Shared\Content\Assets\Characters\Tieflings\[PAK]_FemaleStrong_Cine\_merged.lsf.lsx

UnpackedData\Shared\Public\SharedDev\Content\Assets\Characters\Tieflings\[PAK]_FemaleStrong_Cine\_merged.lsf.lsx

Notice the files define the race and the gender+muscles, so these have cinematics for all Female strong tieflings.
For Tav you have to go through each race's Male and Male strong and modify the animation there. e.g.
UnpackedData\Shared\Public\SharedDev\Content\Assets\Characters\Humans\[PAK]_Male_Cine\_merged.lsf.lsx
UnpackedData\Shared\Public\SharedDev\Content\Assets\Characters\Humans\[PAK]_MaleStrong_Cine\_merged.lsf.lsx
UnpackedData\Shared\Public\SharedDev\Content\Assets\Characters\Elves\[PAK]_Male_Cine\_merged.lsf.lsx
UnpackedData\Shared\Public\SharedDev\Content\Assets\Characters\Elves\[PAK]_MaleStrong_Cine\_merged.lsf.lsx

good luck!
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Thanks, i'll give it a solid try
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Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:40
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:32
Anon wrote: ↑ March 4th, 2024, 22:30


We have different definitions of significant. 51% sure is a lot and by a mile as you said but the other 49% can't be called "insignificant". It's the difference between selling well or being the top of the top as BG3 became.
The other 49% includes playthroughs that didn't romance anyone. That's how popular the evil male gaze is.
Apparently Larian didn't give the exact numbers for each romance option other than Shadowheart (at least not that I could find with a quick googleing) so this argument can't be more developed.

But here's what I can conclude: Larian was successful at catering enough to the majorities that they'd buy the game, while still being able to appease the alphabet crowd, which gave the game a lot of publicity and they bought the game themselves, and all of these factors are what made BG3 be the best seller it became.
But also because they shoved the majority of the alphabet appeasement in later in the game, and also conveniently left most of it out during Early Access.
Guarantee that sales wouldn't have been as good if it was as up-front. This is exactly what TV series do, where the first one has smatterings of woke but is generally alright, then it hits hard during the 2nd seasons, then drops off a cliff in the 3rd. Classic bait and switch.