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SoLong wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 00:07
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 4th, 2024, 23:54
Yes the de-girlboss mod is something on my mind. Just haven't had the time/will to get started yet. The resources on the forum should get you started with Aesthetics Changes and Voice as well.
At least the next BG3 patch is supposed to be the last major one so you won't have to worry about Larian breaking anything anymore.
I'm not gonna count my chickens. They gonna release something else just to torment us modders, i just know it.
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amlaith wrote: ↑ June 4th, 2024, 23:33
another thing apart from so many LGBT couples in the game, I was also uncomfortable with the fact that it seems that all the high ranks, such as commanders, captains, etc., were always occupied by women. I don't know, but so far I have not seen any male commander (as was common in medieval times) or captain or high rank that is not held by a woman. I repeat, at first I didn't even realize it, but it became so recurring that you notice it. I don't know how difficult it would be to change that. but it's worth a try. I will study the tutorial :3
I likewise don't believe it would be "radical" at all. If anything, I sympathize with the sentiment and agree that a mod that fixes such a thing would be a good thing.
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amlaith wrote: ↑ June 4th, 2024, 23:33
If I learn modding, I would like to make a mod...It may sound radical to some, but another thing apart from so many LGBT couples in the game, I was also uncomfortable with the fact that it seems that all the high ranks, such as commanders, captains, etc., were always occupied by women. I don't know, but so far I have not seen any male commander (as was common in medieval times) or captain or high rank that is not held by a woman. I repeat, at first I didn't even realize it, but it became so recurring that you notice it. I don't know how difficult it would be to change that. but it's worth a try. I will study the tutorial :3
Personally i dont mind if a lot of women are in leadership positions, it is a fantasy realm that has a level system so physical differences between the sexes would be less prevalent among the "adventurers" but in this game its done so much that its a bit comical tbh. Every faction has either women or a poc leader and the only two "white males" in leadership positions are evil.
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good women leadership roles include lead sammich maker
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RhapsodicHotShot wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 14:21
amlaith wrote: ↑ June 4th, 2024, 23:33
If I learn modding, I would like to make a mod...It may sound radical to some, but another thing apart from so many LGBT couples in the game, I was also uncomfortable with the fact that it seems that all the high ranks, such as commanders, captains, etc., were always occupied by women. I don't know, but so far I have not seen any male commander (as was common in medieval times) or captain or high rank that is not held by a woman. I repeat, at first I didn't even realize it, but it became so recurring that you notice it. I don't know how difficult it would be to change that. but it's worth a try. I will study the tutorial :3
Personally i dont mind if a lot of women are in leadership positions, it is a fantasy realm that has a level system so physical differences between the sexes would be less prevalent among the "adventurers" but in this game its done so much that its a bit comical tbh. Every faction has either women or a poc leader and the only two "white males" in leadership positions are evil.
All the party members that are front-line "armoured fighter" types are women too, if you've noticed.
There's not a single beefy armoured tank bro or barbarian or whatever.

It was obviously a conscious decision with the development of this game to put women front & centre of both the party and npcs, despite the complete imbalance not making sense.

And I say this as someone who always plays a robe-wearing mage character.
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Feels like you missed a step somewhere. Have a read of the Installation & Troubleshooting sections.

Click to show the collapsed sections btw. If you can't get it to work make a post on the support section and tag me.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 15:11
Feels like you missed a step somewhere. Have a read of the Installation & Troubleshooting sections.

Click to show the collapsed sections btw. If you can't get it to work make a post on the support section and tag me.
The funny thing is that only in the Moon Towers and in the tower of Lorroacan with Sir Eileen something is strange, but in the camp he is normal
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Zero Griss wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 15:15
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 15:11
Feels like you missed a step somewhere. Have a read of the Installation & Troubleshooting sections.

Click to show the collapsed sections btw. If you can't get it to work make a post on the support section and tag me.
The funny thing is that only in the Moon Towers and in the tower of Lorroacan with Sir Eileen something is strange, but in the camp he is normal
Load Order i think. Put Aesthetics mod on the bottom of your load order.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 15:33
Zero Griss wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 15:15
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 15:11

Feels like you missed a step somewhere. Have a read of the Installation & Troubleshooting sections.

Click to show the collapsed sections btw. If you can't get it to work make a post on the support section and tag me.
The funny thing is that only in the Moon Towers and in the tower of Lorroacan with Sir Eileen something is strange, but in the camp he is normal
Load Order i think. Put Aesthetics mod on the bottom of your load order.
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They really need to update that UI.
I get that as devs they came at it from a technical mindset with "highest priority = layered/loaded last". But most end users are going to think "highest priority = At the top".
They should just stick some arrows on it or make it VERY clear that for something to be loaded as highest priority, it needs to be at the BOTTOM of the list.
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amlaith wrote: ↑ June 4th, 2024, 23:33
I love how they always mention that stupid argument that because it is a fantasy world everything is valid.
Everything is valid... EXCEPT what's in this mod.
Everything is valid... EXCEPT if everyone was White.
Everything is valid... EXCEPT if everyone was heterosexual.
It's for EVERYONE... but not YOU!
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BobT wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 16:00
But most end users are going to think "highest priority = At the top".
They should just stick some arrows on it or make it VERY clear that for something to be loaded as highest priority, it needs to be at the BOTTOM of the list.
Since Morrowind modding (if not before), it's always been: loaded top to bottom, last loaded (lower) takes precedence.
If people can't learn that in over 20 years, there's no helping them.
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Rand wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 19:13
BobT wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 16:00
But most end users are going to think "highest priority = At the top".
They should just stick some arrows on it or make it VERY clear that for something to be loaded as highest priority, it needs to be at the BOTTOM of the list.
Since Morrowind modding (if not before), it's always been: loaded top to bottom, last loaded (lower) takes precedence.
If people can't learn that in over 20 years, there's no helping them.
There are people who just hit the age to play an RPG / playing RPG for the first time. Have to account for them not knowing.
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Rand wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 19:13
BobT wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 16:00
But most end users are going to think "highest priority = At the top".
They should just stick some arrows on it or make it VERY clear that for something to be loaded as highest priority, it needs to be at the BOTTOM of the list.
Since Morrowind modding (if not before), it's always been: loaded top to bottom, last loaded (lower) takes precedence.
If people can't learn that in over 20 years, there's no helping them.
A recent release (if you could say so) cyberpunk 2077, what's higher on the list takes higher priority. Different games, different ways of modding.
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 19:59
Rand wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 19:13
BobT wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 16:00
But most end users are going to think "highest priority = At the top".
They should just stick some arrows on it or make it VERY clear that for something to be loaded as highest priority, it needs to be at the BOTTOM of the list.
Since Morrowind modding (if not before), it's always been: loaded top to bottom, last loaded (lower) takes precedence.
If people can't learn that in over 20 years, there's no helping them.
A recent release (if you could say so) cyberpunk 2077, what's higher on the list takes higher priority. Different games, different ways of modding.
GREAT! It's not like they didn't know the standard method. But some ****** decides to do the opposite because he likes it better or some ****.
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Morrowind didn't have anything like a top-to-bottom load order, it loaded mods in the order of file modification date. This continued all the way until Skyrim, FYI. Anything else was just mimicking a proper load-order and changing the modify date behind the scenes.

NWN loaded hakpaks from bottom to top, it released within a month of morrowind.
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Either way top to bottom is more technically minded thinking (understanding layering). The average normie end user will think top = top priority.

Probably many people's first venture into modding. Most older games were modded for fun. BG3 is modded to make it tolerable.
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anyone have access to the closed alpha mentioned a couple days ago? im hoping official support / Mod.io will be beneficial to the No Alphabets community
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probmfixn wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 23:10
anyone have access to the closed alpha mentioned a couple days ago? im hoping official support / Mod.io will be beneficial to the No Alphabets community
I have heard that there will be a "verification" system for mods within this official support. They say that system is to approve only stable mods that do not cause stability problems or crashes. Obviously they will also use that system as a censorship method, I doubt that once they review this community's mod they will approve it. but I have also heard that fortunately installing mods from third-party programs will still be possible. However, don't take my word as truth. It's just superficial info that I found out somewhere
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amlaith wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 23:33
probmfixn wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 23:10
anyone have access to the closed alpha mentioned a couple days ago? im hoping official support / Mod.io will be beneficial to the No Alphabets community
I have heard that there will be a "verification" system for mods within this official support. They say that system is to approve only stable mods that do not cause stability problems or crashes. Obviously they will also use that system as a censorship method, I doubt that once they review this community's mod they will approve it. but I have also heard that fortunately installing mods from third-party programs will still be possible. However, don't take my word as truth. It's just superficial info that I found out somewhere
They did say something about "mod curation" but we've yet to see what that looks like.
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amlaith wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 23:33
I have heard that there will be a "verification" system for mods within this official support. They say that system is to approve only stable mods that do not cause stability problems or crashes. Obviously they will also use that system as a censorship method, I doubt that once they review this community's mod they will approve it. but I have also heard that fortunately installing mods from third-party programs will still be possible. However, don't take my word as truth. It's just superficial info that I found out somewhere
the announcement says "Changes that won’t be officially supported within our pipeline, like scripting changes or NSFW mods that wouldn't pass the moderation process due to platform-specific restrictions, may still be packed locally with mod.io’s toolset and uploaded to other mod distribution platforms!"
so even if this mod is rejected by moderation it should still be able to get 'packed locally with mod.io’s toolset'. lol so we're in a world where taking the gay out of games is whats NSFW not putting it in #clownworld
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Ladies and gentlemen. I would like to celebrate this sacred month of June with a new logo for No Alphabets. Hope you like it ;).
Also the mod page (first post) has been completely revamped with Tabs!!
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I just found out about this and... well, I see what the intent is.
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They know modding is the frontline. And they want to control it end-to-end. For profit, of course.
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probmfixn wrote: ↑ June 5th, 2024, 23:10
the closed alpha mentioned a couple days ago?
In this thread? I didn't see this post if there was one.
Please point out what you are referring to.
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Rand wrote: ↑ June 7th, 2024, 01:13
I just found out about this and... well, I see what the intent is.
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They know modding is the frontline. And they want to control it end-to-end. For profit, of course.
One of the worst things I've read in a long time, thanks.
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How do people come to the conclusion that there should be top-down control over which mods you can install. Or even can exist?
It's so shockingly stupid. It will 100% turn out badly for gaming.
Look at all the games that essentially started as mods...
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Seems like it would be worth it's own thread I hadn't heard of this.
I'm just stating the facts.
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Rand wrote: ↑ June 7th, 2024, 01:20
How do people come to the conclusion that there should be top-down control over which mods you can install. Or even can exist?
It's so shockingly stupid. It will 100% turn out badly for gaming.
Look at all the games that essentially started as mods...
You can't do most of the heavy modding like scripts and so on with mod.io anyway... I don't even see the point.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 7th, 2024, 01:29
Rand wrote: ↑ June 7th, 2024, 01:20
How do people come to the conclusion that there should be top-down control over which mods you can install. Or even can exist?
It's so shockingly stupid. It will 100% turn out badly for gaming.
Look at all the games that essentially started as mods...
You can't do most of the heavy modding like scripts and so on with mod.io anyway... I don't even see the point.
The point is obvious. It's a way for greedy developers to turn their paying customers into cash cows they can milk.
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