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sheet wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:14
God of War: Ragnarok hits most of my criteria. no, I haven't played it nor will I ever.

Barely a game with suck-to-target, spammy gameplay, "DSP-proof" handholding, zero exploration, unwelcome lecturing, endless cutscenes, yellow paint, annoying NPC chatter and hints, reddit "muh dad simulator" ********, girlbosses, millennial writing, race swaps, hero archtype subversion, ugly characters, virtue signaling cast members, castrated OG developers who regret what made them successful in the old days, ranked 19th highest consensus by modern reviews, less talked about than even Last of Us 2, sold like gangbusters.
Overrated on reddit maybe, but plenty of people still think it's at least a downgrade compared to the previous one and there's a sizeable population that hate both.
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Devil May Cry.

It appealed while I was a teen. When i thought later about why I liked it... I couldn't find a single reason other than goonslop.
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Think I'll play ICO first before SOTC. Maybe I'll come back here and label it as overrated, or maybe I'll love it. It seems to have similarities with the old formula 3D Zelda games.
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methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:14
He's letting ******* off easily, it's not subjective at all. E33 has a good ending and a bad ending.
Again, you're superimposing your desire and your read over the author's intent. And, again, it's something our side should do, we have the evidence it works from what the left has done to our art and culture. But don't confuse what you're doing with what they're doing, and understand that to some people (me) what they're doing is more important in determining whether a product is **** or not than what you can force it to mean.
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Kalarion wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 16:45
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:14
He's letting ******* off easily, it's not subjective at all. E33 has a good ending and a bad ending.
Again, you're superimposing your desire and your read over the author's intent. And, again, it's something our side should do, we have the evidence it works from what the left has done to our art and culture. But don't confuse what you're doing with what they're doing, and understand that to some people (me) what they're doing is more important in determining whether a product is **** or not than what you can force it to mean.
I can't really argue with you since I agree with every word you say in principle, but I actually played this game and genuinely believe that there is no ill intent behind it whatsoever.
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Finarfin wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:12
All Larian games tbh. Divine Divinity, Beyond Divinity, Divinity: Original Sin 1/2 and especially Baldur's Gate 3
How pozzed are the DOS games? (Without spoilers)
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 16:30
Devil May Cry.

It appealed while I was a teen. When i thought later about why I liked it... I couldn't find a single reason other than goonslop.
I remember Dante and Vergil's antics far more than "goonslop" whatever that means
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Niggler wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:17
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 16:30
Devil May Cry.

It appealed while I was a teen. When i thought later about why I liked it... I couldn't find a single reason other than goonslop.
I remember Dante and Vergil's antics far more than "goonslop" whatever that means
It was the cheesiness of it. So very very cheesy. The goonslop is for the ladies. Clearly.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:18
Niggler wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:17
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 16:30
Devil May Cry.

It appealed while I was a teen. When i thought later about why I liked it... I couldn't find a single reason other than goonslop.
I remember Dante and Vergil's antics far more than "goonslop" whatever that means
It was the cheesiness of it. So very very cheesy. The goonslop is for the ladies. Clearly.
Ah I see your point now. I didn't get where you were coming from because people like calling men coomers for liking attractive women for some reason, while sexualizing men is completely fine, as per usual jewish double standards
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Niggler wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:21
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:18
Niggler wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:17


I remember Dante and Vergil's antics far more than "goonslop" whatever that means
It was the cheesiness of it. So very very cheesy. The goonslop is for the ladies. Clearly.
Ah I see your point now. I didn't get where you were coming from because people like calling men coomers for liking attractive women for some reason, while sexualizing men is completely fine, as per usual jewish double standards
Japs sexualise men and women on equal measure. Never change japan. never change. (except the pedo part, we can do without the lolicon)
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:25
Niggler wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:21
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:18


It was the cheesiness of it. So very very cheesy. The goonslop is for the ladies. Clearly.
Ah I see your point now. I didn't get where you were coming from because people like calling men coomers for liking attractive women for some reason, while sexualizing men is completely fine, as per usual jewish double standards
Japs sexualise men and women on equal measure. Never change japan. never change. (except the pedo part, we can do without the lolicon)
Pedos need to be turned into cat food, but sadly they rule all western society, if not the entire world at this point
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methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:14
Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:09
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:03


It presents him as the bad guy before any info comes out about him, he is immediately sympathetic the moment you learn who he really is
Do you believe there truly is a true or “good” ending to the game?

That’s something we’ve had a lot of arguments about in the team too! I think your reaction to the endings, and which one is the “good” ending, is super subjective and related to your own personal experiences in real life...Ultimately, what matters is your own interpretation of the ending and of the story.
Sounds like subversive hogwash to me!

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He's letting ******* off easily, it's not subjective at all. E33 has a good ending and a bad ending.
Hey, bro. Without spoiling, is the good ending easily achievable without a guide? Or is it like Persona 4's level of cryptic?
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Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:52
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:14
Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:09




Sounds like subversive hogwash to me!

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He's letting ******* off easily, it's not subjective at all. E33 has a good ending and a bad ending.
Hey, bro. Without spoiling, is the good ending easily achievable without a guide? Or is it like Persona 4's level of cryptic?
There's no requirements, it's a one-or-the-other choice at the end
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Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:01
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:43
Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:36


The story is about a man being wrong because he doesn't want his foids to engage in self-destructive behavior.
How is the story about him being wrong when he isn't wrong?
It presents him as the bad guy for the first 2/3s of the game, then the devs cop out with "well it's ambiguous who's actually right" in the last third because Renoir wants to eliminate soulless automatons to save his family.
This revelation helps solve a lot of the mysteries previously shown in the game so it was very likely a well-structured twist, not a cop out. But hey, what do I know, I just played the game.
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Niggler wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:27
Pedos need to be turned into cat food, but sadly they rule all western society, if not the entire world at this point
Pedo's have ruled every civilization ever. It is almost exclusively what becoming wealthy is for. Everything else is just the BS they tell you so you will fight for (insert sexual degeneracy) club to exist and ignore the evil we all help put up on a pedestal. I defend nothing in this statement. Burn them all and let hell sort them out.
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Valter wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 18:36
Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:01
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:43


How is the story about him being wrong when he isn't wrong?
It presents him as the bad guy for the first 2/3s of the game, then the devs cop out with "well it's ambiguous who's actually right" in the last third because Renoir wants to eliminate soulless automatons to save his family.
This revelation helps solve a lot of the mysteries previously shown in the game so it was very likely a well-structured twist, not a cop out. But hey, what do I know, I just played the game.
When a significant portion of your audience debates it and the creative director says his own team debated it, then it's either intentionally left up to interpretation or incompetence in execution!
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methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:13
Kalarion wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:09
E33's message and politics are dogshit.
How though? The same people who say this **** will turn around and play BG3 and it's just comical to me

the message of E33 is that women are weak and stupid and need men to save them from themselves btw. It's about a White father doing the needful to save his broken family.
...and then failing, letting .his daughter stay as an addict in la la land and also failing to save his wife. The Good Guys actually lose and its only on the very last choice that you can make the right decision as a Player after playing the bad guys all along.
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Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:01
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:43
Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 14:36


The story is about a man being wrong because he doesn't want his foids to engage in self-destructive behavior.
How is the story about him being wrong when he isn't wrong?
It presents him as the bad guy for the first 2/3s of the game, then the devs cop out with "well it's ambiguous who's actually right" in the last third because Renoir wants to eliminate soulless automatons to save his family.
Not only that...
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Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:52
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:14
Tangerine wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:09




Sounds like subversive hogwash to me!

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He's letting ******* off easily, it's not subjective at all. E33 has a good ending and a bad ending.
Hey, bro. Without spoiling, is the good ending easily achievable without a guide? Or is it like Persona 4's level of cryptic?
It's one choice at the very end of the game. If you have a soul, it is extremely obvious which one is the right choice. But, since the game was written by a woman, they have to try to be artsy about it and claim is ambiguous because they want to point the finger and blame the player for enjoying escapism.
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Spyro games, the OG ones. Played them to the death as a kid but find them to be tedious as an adult. 50% of the game are gem hunting which is absolutely not fun, the rest are just minigames.
Soyer Mario is the other franchise I no longer enjoy as an adult, but maybe it's just me.
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DrSneed wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 16:27
sheet wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 15:14
God of War: Ragnarok hits most of my criteria. no, I haven't played it nor will I ever.

Barely a game with suck-to-target, spammy gameplay, "DSP-proof" handholding, zero exploration, unwelcome lecturing, endless cutscenes, yellow paint, annoying NPC chatter and hints, reddit "muh dad simulator" ********, girlbosses, millennial writing, race swaps, hero archtype subversion, ugly characters, virtue signaling cast members, castrated OG developers who regret what made them successful in the old days, ranked 19th highest consensus by modern reviews, less talked about than even Last of Us 2, sold like gangbusters.
Overrated on reddit maybe, but plenty of people still think it's at least a downgrade compared to the previous one and there's a sizeable population that hate both.
It's an improvement over 2018 in every way. I played 2018 on release and couldn't finish it. On the other hand, I 100%ed Ragnarok. Snappier controls, more combat options, clearer visuals, more interesting puzzles, more whimsical and imaginative overall.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:25
Japs sexualise men and women on equal measure. Never change japan. never change.
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I Should\u0027ve Been the One to Fill Your Dark Soul With Light #Shorts #DevilMayCry #DMC

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Tinky Winky wrote: ↑ June 13th, 2026, 08:17
Spyro games, the OG ones. Played them to the death as a kid but find them to be tedious as an adult. 50% of the game are gem hunting which is absolutely not fun, the rest are just minigames.
Soyer Mario is the other franchise I no longer enjoy as an adult, but maybe it's just me.
That's every collectathon game ever made.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:25
except the pedo part, we can do without the lolicon
The average weeb will still hate you for saying this part.
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Your application of meme words is tortured, try-hard, and gay.
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Niggler wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 17:17
orinEsque wrote: ↑ June 12th, 2026, 16:30
Devil May Cry.

It appealed while I was a teen. When i thought later about why I liked it... I couldn't find a single reason other than goonslop.
I remember Dante and Vergil's antics far more than "goonslop" whatever that means
Dante is the most awkward, try-hard, unfunny, and uncool protagonist in all of gaming. Yes, japanese dmc3 dante. The game is good but the cutscenes are unwatchable because of how hard they force that cack-handed aura of coolness around him.
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Vlajdimir Ermenović wrote: ↑ June 13th, 2026, 09:34
Your application of meme words is tortured, try-hard, and gay.
Don't care, mario games do still age poorly.
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