Elden Ring and Shadow of the Erdtree expansion

[Greyborne]

every enemy does a lot of damage, has a ton of health and has endless combos that leave nearly no openings"

******* bosses with jerky roll-catch movements and a plethora of physically nonsensical moves make the bosses in this DLC hard to put up with

As someone who beat all the Fromsoft games with gimped Lvl1 characters for fun (the base game included), I'll be calling quits on this one. It's fine if enemies jump high, fly or do magic, but changing trajectory mid-air, floating ominously and having impossible pauses mid-movement to throw the player off their reflexes is atrocious design for an action game. I'm not making mistakes because my reflexes are weak, but because I can't see what's happening

Get ready for 5 more copy-pasted giant dragons in the first couple hours, and major bosses have straight up recycles from base game

LOT of poise-monsters. If anyone remembers the dragon shrine knights from Dark Souls 2 before they were patched, think that. Crazy HP pool enemies with infinite stamina, and infinite poise. It's like they took Haligtree and cranked it to 15/10. I find this type of enemy design extremely unfun. Several new enemy types spam attacks nonstop. There is no ebb and flow to combat, only trading blows since they never stop spamming attacks unless parried. It really encourages the player to simply run past engagements and not partake in combat at all

say you're in the endgame; a boss is dealing 80% of your 60 vigor health bar in one hit. then you go to your stat screen, and you realize you have 70% absorptions against all attacks... the boss just deals that much damage. you're also only tickling him, but you have 1100+ AR. the boss is just that tanky

i miss the time when the soulsborne games where about understanding the bosses, using their weakness against them and overcoming them by skill and knowledge. Now its just 10 hit combos where every attack also does a second aoe attack that makes it completly confusing when to dodge

Miyazaki strikes again. I've been saying that the souls games have started to become harder and harder in an unfun kind of way since Dark Souls 3, but every time I say that people just reply to me with 'git gud'.

Multi-stage boss fights where you are getting pummeled by two or three huge monsters who have a fuckton of health, who deal enough damage to send you to a checkpoint in two hits, and who have intentionally confusing attack patters designed to throw you off? "That's actually a good game design, and if you don't like it then go play mario or some other stupid game for little children, you piece of **** ****** scrublord".

Making bonfires more sparse, removing the ability to warp between them at will, and designing the world in accordance with these changes? "You are literally Hitler for wanting me to waste my precious time constantly running back to a boss fight. I have a job, and kids, and I'm an adult person who can only afford so much time to playing video games".

I find it rather amusing though. Thought that comes to my head though when people complain about the difficulty is... "welcome to the 80's kid!"

At least they don't have to feed quarters into a machine when they die. LOL

Dark Souls Arcade: Broke AF Edition

[Nooneatall]

every enemy does a lot of damage, has a ton of health and has endless combos that leave nearly no openings"

******* bosses with jerky roll-catch movements and a plethora of physically nonsensical moves make the bosses in this DLC hard to put up with

As someone who beat all the Fromsoft games with gimped Lvl1 characters for fun (the base game included), I'll be calling quits on this one. It's fine if enemies jump high, fly or do magic, but changing trajectory mid-air, floating ominously and having impossible pauses mid-movement to throw the player off their reflexes is atrocious design for an action game. I'm not making mistakes because my reflexes are weak, but because I can't see what's happening

Get ready for 5 more copy-pasted giant dragons in the first couple hours, and major bosses have straight up recycles from base game

LOT of poise-monsters. If anyone remembers the dragon shrine knights from Dark Souls 2 before they were patched, think that. Crazy HP pool enemies with infinite stamina, and infinite poise. It's like they took Haligtree and cranked it to 15/10. I find this type of enemy design extremely unfun. Several new enemy types spam attacks nonstop. There is no ebb and flow to combat, only trading blows since they never stop spamming attacks unless parried. It really encourages the player to simply run past engagements and not partake in combat at all

say you're in the endgame; a boss is dealing 80% of your 60 vigor health bar in one hit. then you go to your stat screen, and you realize you have 70% absorptions against all attacks... the boss just deals that much damage. you're also only tickling him, but you have 1100+ AR. the boss is just that tanky

i miss the time when the soulsborne games where about understanding the bosses, using their weakness against them and overcoming them by skill and knowledge. Now its just 10 hit combos where every attack also does a second aoe attack that makes it completly confusing when to dodge

Miyazaki strikes again. I've been saying that the souls games have started to become harder and harder in an unfun kind of way since Dark Souls 3, but every time I say that people just reply to me with 'git gud'.

Multi-stage boss fights where you are getting pummeled by two or three huge monsters who have a fuckton of health, who deal enough damage to send you to a checkpoint in two hits, and who have intentionally confusing attack patters designed to throw you off? "That's actually a good game design, and if you don't like it then go play mario or some other stupid game for little children, you piece of **** ****** scrublord".

Making bonfires more sparse, removing the ability to warp between them at will, and designing the world in accordance with these changes? "You are literally Hitler for wanting me to waste my precious time constantly running back to a boss fight. I have a job, and kids, and I'm an adult person who can only afford so much time to playing video games".

I find it rather amusing though. Thought that comes to my head though when people complain about the difficulty is... "welcome to the 80's kid!"

At least they don't have to feed quarters into a machine when they die. LOL

Yeah I hate arcade games. I had an amiga I played games on alone.

[Irenaeus]

Yeah I hate arcade games. I had an amiga I played games on alone.

Wish you could have been there

[wndrbr]

- "new game is badly balanced"

- "hurr durr welcome to the 80s, we had to play giga hard games and after each death in order to continue we had to pay quarters to the arcade machine jew, you got nothing on that!"

OK boomer

[rusty_shackleford]

memorizing boss mechanics always sucked

[Vergil]

Miyazaki strikes again. I've been saying that the souls games have started to become harder and harder in an unfun kind of way since Dark Souls 3, but every time I say that people just reply to me with 'git gud'.

The difficulty became a marketing gimmick that people fell for. Demons and Dark Souls 1 was never about being hard for the sake of it.

I find it rather amusing though. Thought that comes to my head though when people complain about the difficulty is... "welcome to the 80's kid!"

Are you a homosexual?

[Statesman]

Me, reading this thread while downloading the game to finally playthrough it with my friends:

[Greyborne]

Am I an uncultured swine since I think this is a pretty decent AAA title? Exploration and secrets are up to Fromsoft's previous work. Haven't gotten to the DLC yet though.

[Boontaker]

Am I an uncultured swine since I think this is a pretty decent AAA title? Exploration and secrets are up to Fromsoft's previous work. Haven't gotten to the DLC yet though.

It's a fine game, combat has enough options for variety. Game has good exploration for completionists. It has some differences from western rpgs, but for something to waste 40-80 hours on its a good choice.

Put rpghq in one of your multiplayer settings, this will make HQ players messages/summons/deaths highlighted

rpghq

[Vergil]

I'm sure it's a fun game but I doubt it's done enough to fight the Souls stagnation and adding a big **** off open world rarely makes a game better.

[Greyborne]

Am I an uncultured swine since I think this is a pretty decent AAA title? Exploration and secrets are up to Fromsoft's previous work. Haven't gotten to the DLC yet though.

It's a fine game, combat has enough options for variety. Game has good exploration for completionists. It has some differences from western rpgs, but for something to waste 40-80 hours on its a good choice.

Put rpghq in one of your multiplayer settings, this will make HQ players messages/summons/deaths highlighted

rpghq

That's a cool feature. thanks

[Greyborne]

I'm sure it's a fun game but I doubt it's done enough to fight the Souls stagnation and adding a big **** off open world rarely makes a game better.

The combat formula definitely needs a technological leap. We need better story telling, too. Even though I like the worldbuilding in souls games.
With that said, I'm still waiting patiently for Bloodborne pc release.

[Zothique]

Apparently this is getting a lot of **** reviews on Steam. Wonder why? Skill issue? ****** issue?

[rusty_shackleford]

Apparently this is getting a lot of **** reviews on Steam. Wonder why? Skill issue? ****** issue?

soulslop is finally dying and the world is healing

[Element]

Also a reason why I never bothered with demon souls even more ****** areas there.

They were alright.
Tower of Latria was one of the more memorable areas of the series.

[Vaako]

Also a reason why I never bothered with demon souls even more ****** areas there.

They were alright.
Tower of Latria was one of the more memorable areas of the series.

Sure but that isnt even the worst one, the area with the flying manta rays and the swamp were also crap. Only the mine area and the castle starting zone are somewhat enjoyable. Its like 3 out of 5 areas were like blighttown maybe with better framerate tho. Pretty easy to not buy a PS5 then just for that game really. At least most of the **** areas in ds2 were relativ short and there were plenty of nice looking ones but I also didnt bother with the dlcs there.

[Finarfin]

Apparently this is getting a lot of **** reviews on Steam. Wonder why? Skill issue? ****** issue?

Isn't the whole dlc story

► Show Spoiler

****** miquella has the hots for radahn, gets rejected cause radahn ain't a ******, mohg dies, miquella takes his body and fuses radahns soul with the body so he has his consort, it's a ****** story seemingly written by some fujoshi.

[Manny V]

Apparently this is getting a lot of **** reviews on Steam. Wonder why? Skill issue? ****** issue?

Isn't the whole dlc story

► Show Spoiler

****** miquella has the hots for radahn, gets rejected cause radahn ain't a ******, mohg dies, miquella takes his body and fuses radahns soul with the body so he has his consort, it's a ****** story seemingly written by some fujoshi.

they really doin ya boi Radahn like that

first he gets AIDS from some disgusting incest spawn cripple ***** that nukes a continent with her disease becasue she can't handle the idea of losing a fight, then he has his fuckin soul infused in the body of his gross ****** half-brother and suffers for eternity as a 'consort' to his disgusting ****** femboy half-"brother", who in turn is the "brother" of the same disgusting AIDS ***** he got infected by?

yeah nah i don't think i'm gonna bother getting this DLC, got a lot to go in the main game anyway and have been taking a break from it. this **** just sounds like some nightmarish gay fanfic garbage. surely you get the option to kill or at least go against Miquella's plans?

[Finarfin]

Apparently this is getting a lot of **** reviews on Steam. Wonder why? Skill issue? ****** issue?

Isn't the whole dlc story

► Show Spoiler

****** miquella has the hots for radahn, gets rejected cause radahn ain't a ******, mohg dies, miquella takes his body and fuses radahns soul with the body so he has his consort, it's a ****** story seemingly written by some fujoshi.

they really doin ya boi Radahn like that

first he gets AIDS from some disgusting incest spawn cripple ***** that nukes a continent with her disease becasue she can't handle the idea of losing a fight, then he has his fuckin soul infused in the body of his gross ****** half-brother and suffers for eternity as a 'consort' to his disgusting ****** femboy half-"brother", who in turn is the "brother" of the same disgusting AIDS ***** he got infected by?

yeah nah i don't think i'm gonna bother getting this DLC, got a lot to go in the main game anyway and have been taking a break from it. this **** just sounds like some nightmarish gay fanfic garbage. surely you get the option to kill or at least go against Miquella's plans?

► Show Spoiler

You are basically there to burn the tree (again) and kill essentially everyone who is on the same side as miquella him and puppeted corpse mohg infused with radahns soul

[Manny V]

Isn't the whole dlc story

► Show Spoiler

****** miquella has the hots for radahn, gets rejected cause radahn ain't a ******, mohg dies, miquella takes his body and fuses radahns soul with the body so he has his consort, it's a ****** story seemingly written by some fujoshi.

they really doin ya boi Radahn like that

first he gets AIDS from some disgusting incest spawn cripple ***** that nukes a continent with her disease becasue she can't handle the idea of losing a fight, then he has his fuckin soul infused in the body of his gross ****** half-brother and suffers for eternity as a 'consort' to his disgusting ****** femboy half-"brother", who in turn is the "brother" of the same disgusting AIDS ***** he got infected by?

yeah nah i don't think i'm gonna bother getting this DLC, got a lot to go in the main game anyway and have been taking a break from it. this **** just sounds like some nightmarish gay fanfic garbage. surely you get the option to kill or at least go against Miquella's plans?

► Show Spoiler

You are basically there to burn the tree (again) and kill essentially everyone who is on the same side as miquella him and puppeted corpse mohg infused with radahns soul

yeah i looked up if you kill the ****** **** and it seems "him" and the puppeteered Radahn is the end boss, so like yeah you put down the cretin but still

just a gross thing to centre the DLC around, i'm glad there's pushback over this, the faggotry needs to end

[Finarfin]

they really doin ya boi Radahn like that

first he gets AIDS from some disgusting incest spawn cripple ***** that nukes a continent with her disease becasue she can't handle the idea of losing a fight, then he has his fuckin soul infused in the body of his gross ****** half-brother and suffers for eternity as a 'consort' to his disgusting ****** femboy half-"brother", who in turn is the "brother" of the same disgusting AIDS ***** he got infected by?

yeah nah i don't think i'm gonna bother getting this DLC, got a lot to go in the main game anyway and have been taking a break from it. this **** just sounds like some nightmarish gay fanfic garbage. surely you get the option to kill or at least go against Miquella's plans?

► Show Spoiler

You are basically there to burn the tree (again) and kill essentially everyone who is on the same side as miquella him and puppeted corpse mohg infused with radahns soul

yeah i looked up if you kill the ****** **** and it seems "him" and the puppeteered Radahn is the end boss, so like yeah you put down the cretin but still

just a gross thing to centre the DLC around, i'm glad there's pushback over this, the faggotry needs to end

Pretty weird that the dlc is so ****** focused even though the base game didn't really foreshadow this.

► Show Spoiler

But atleast we get to put down the freak and Mohg/radahn

[Manny V]

► Show Spoiler

You are basically there to burn the tree (again) and kill essentially everyone who is on the same side as miquella him and puppeted corpse mohg infused with radahns soul

yeah i looked up if you kill the ****** **** and it seems "him" and the puppeteered Radahn is the end boss, so like yeah you put down the cretin but still

just a gross thing to centre the DLC around, i'm glad there's pushback over this, the faggotry needs to end

Pretty weird that the dlc is so ****** focused even though the base game didn't really foreshadow this.

► Show Spoiler

But atleast we get to put down the freak and Mohg/radahn

real shame about Radahn though, he didn't deserve this.

[Xenich]

Yeah I hate arcade games. I had an amiga I played games on alone.

Wish you could have been there

It was a different time, that is for sure. A large room filled with machines and all the sounds and lights flashing, music playing, etc... It was a sight to see, a virtual wonderland of both physical and virtual setting. You can play the games on MAME now, but it really just isn't the same. Too bad some people missed that era, it is like the old fashion hops and soda shops of the past, it is a time past that had a very distinct feel.

Notice the modern Souls mainstream player on Galaga! LOL

[Finarfin]

yeah i looked up if you kill the ****** **** and it seems "him" and the puppeteered Radahn is the end boss, so like yeah you put down the cretin but still

just a gross thing to centre the DLC around, i'm glad there's pushback over this, the faggotry needs to end

Pretty weird that the dlc is so ****** focused even though the base game didn't really foreshadow this.

► Show Spoiler

But atleast we get to put down the freak and Mohg/radahn

real shame about Radahn though, he didn't deserve this.

Agreed. I really like Radahn (His armor is awesome, and you even get his armor in a cleaner and glorious version). Based of him rejecting Miquella, if that rotten ***** Malenia hadn't nuked Caelid, he would've decimated her.

[somerandomdude]

memorizing boss mechanics always sucked

Memorizing boss mechanics is optional in Elden Ring, they give you plenty of tools to use where you don't have to.

[wndrbr]

The thing about Elden Ring's balancing is that if you use the various tools the game gives you (i.e. summoning ashes, consumables, magic, weapon arts, summoning of other players, going to a different location to level up if the boss is too tough), you will just roflstomp the boss.

[rusty_shackleford]

The thing about Elden Ring's balancing is that if you use the various tools the game gives you (i.e. summoning ashes, consumables, magic, weapon arts, summoning of other players, going to a different location to level up if the boss is too tough), you will just roflstomp the boss.

Almost like it's actually a bad game.

[Greyborne]

The thing about Elden Ring's balancing is that if you use the various tools the game gives you (i.e. summoning ashes, consumables, magic, weapon arts, summoning of other players, going to a different location to level up if the boss is too tough), you will just roflstomp the boss.

Almost like it's actually a bad game.

achtuaaally, game breaking features are a positive. Cheesing bosses with a glinstone stave outside of the boss barrier is immersive.

[wndrbr]

I don't mind the abundance of options that may occasionally break the game, i think it's actually fun to experiment and look for different ways to game the system (cheese aside). The main problem is again the open world.

It worked better in a more linear game cuz there weren't all that many different routes available to the player at the same time, so it was easier for designers to balance the encounters. Open world made it harder to determine the order at which you should tackle the bosses, so you end up either getting stuck fighting a very difficult high-level boss, or curbstomping him after over-levelling by accident.

Of course once you hit the endgame the over-levelling issue disappears as all the end-game bosses now have roughly the same level of power. But the issue of 'robbing yourself of a good fight' sort of remains.

[Manny V]

I don't mind the abundance of options that may occasionally break the game, i think it's actually fun to experiment and look for different ways to game the system (cheese aside). The main problem is again the open world.

It worked better in a more linear game cuz there weren't all that many different routes available to the player at the same time, so it was easier for designers to balance the encounters. Open world made it harder to determine the order at which you should tackle the bosses, so you end up either getting stuck fighting a very difficult high-level boss, or curbstomping him after over-levelling by accident.

Of course once you hit the endgame the over-levelling issue disappears as all the end-game bosses now have roughly the same level of power. But the issue of 'robbing yourself of a good fight' sort of remains.

definitely true about how you can accidentally overlevel and 'rob yourself of a good fight' lol, i ensured i did all of limgrave and weeping peninsula stuff before Godrick so as to not miss out on anything (since the game progresses a stage or whatever when you beat him) that when i fought him i beat him first try, without using the cringe foid summon to help (imagine summoning some swarthoid woman to help you)