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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 01:29
Lhynn wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 00:02
Game is not toxic, its just ****.
Theres nothing in the game that would put it on the level of any of those.
Starfield ended up being the most libtarded game I've ever played due to how not in your face it is with it. It's difficult to understand if you don't play it. Once you start noticing it, you noticed it was there the entire time and it's everywhere.
What makes it stand out against any other racially diverse wonderland setting?
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Starfield is The Song of the South. Its trying to niggerfy every last bit of scifi in your heaf that might have escaped niggerfication, but nobody actually played or liked it. Its just going to be held up as an example of the racism of milennials, when their grandchildren are in school, if its remembered at all.
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Playing SWTOR yesterday is struck me that, in SWTOR when you travel from one planet to the next in your ship. You watch from the cockpit (that you can freely move around in/open inventory etc) as your ship moves into position and then hyperjumps to the destination. Then when you are ready to land it plays a short cinematic of your ship docking or landing depending on the location, with unique cinematics.

How is this handled in star field?
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 01:42
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 01:29
Lhynn wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 00:02
Game is not toxic, its just ****.
Theres nothing in the game that would put it on the level of any of those.
Starfield ended up being the most libtarded game I've ever played due to how not in your face it is with it. It's difficult to understand if you don't play it. Once you start noticing it, you noticed it was there the entire time and it's everywhere.
What makes it stand out against any other racially diverse wonderland setting?
The scale of it. All of the game's NPC generators are set to maximum ESG score. Every single quest follows the same race and gender quota to the maximum. Every single interaction in the game is tuned to racial and gender quotas. The enemies you fight are all faceless and wearing helmets so you don't even see non-"diverse" NPCs there (usually other woke games would have you fighting whitey, but in Starfield all enemies are soulless, faceless bodies in space suits).

But the game never calls attention to it, and that makes it weirdly worse. You'll be given a quest to talk to the leading Russian scientist (or whatever he was, I forget), and when you get to his space station it's a ******. Nothing is ever said about it, no one ever comments on the Russian being a black man, it just is. When you get a quest to go talk to some group's leader it is, without fail, always a woman. No one ever comments about it, they don't have any speech prepared about how they had to fight their way to the top and beat the men, no, it's just how the game is, and after a while it is unbelievably soul-crushing because you suddenly realize this is the bleak future of Western gaming as a whole.

Every single leader a woman. Every single NPC randomly created by a woke NPC generator, like orcs from Lord of the Rings being made by Saruman. Every single quest the same as a quest from a previous game except this time it's a mixed race couple, or a pair of homosexuals asking you to help them. Every single enemy a faceless NPC body with no discernible features or characteristics other than "enemy".

You go up to a guard in New Atlantis to talk to him and he'll say "If I work late again tonight my husband's going to kill me", and you double-check to make sure it really is a male guard saying this... and of course it is. The game never remarks on it, the guards around never say anything, the homosexual guard never has any other related dialog about what he just said.

It is just banal, passive "diversity". It will make you wish for the days of yore when the game made a big a deal about their "gay NPC", because at least then it felt like the writers were backed into a corner and had to justify themselves to you. Having it be as commonplace, banal and unremarked upon as in Starfield is one of the most depressing things I've ever experienced in a video game. It is one of the most complete woke victories I've ever witnessed.
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But all that is probably a realistic depiction of the future. Homosexuality will be normal so nobody will bat an eye about a man mentioning his husband, russkies will be black and most leaders are already women today.
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 08:11
But all that is probably a realistic depiction of the future. Homosexuality will be normal so nobody will bat an eye about a man mentioning his husband, russkies will be black and most leaders are already women today.
It won't last forever, it's been 15 years since this **** started and it's already going downhill
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 08:11
But all that is probably a realistic depiction of the future. Homosexuality will be normal so nobody will bat an eye about a man mentioning his husband, russkies will be black and most leaders are already women today.
Thats certainly not happening in the EU with the rise of muslims there. Unless all the people which made it to space in that universe came from asia/US only.
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Vaako wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 12:12
revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 08:11
But all that is probably a realistic depiction of the future. Homosexuality will be normal so nobody will bat an eye about a man mentioning his husband, russkies will be black and most leaders are already women today.
Thats certainly not happening in the EU with the rise of muslims there. Unless all the people which made it to space in that universe came from asia/US only.
Only the original generation of Muslim immigrants will have been fundamentalist or traditional, however you want to call it. Muslim zoomoids will be just as western ones due to the local culture and the internet.
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 12:21
Vaako wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 12:12
revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 08:11
But all that is probably a realistic depiction of the future. Homosexuality will be normal so nobody will bat an eye about a man mentioning his husband, russkies will be black and most leaders are already women today.
Thats certainly not happening in the EU with the rise of muslims there. Unless all the people which made it to space in that universe came from asia/US only.
Only the original generation of Muslim immigrants will have been fundamentalist or traditional, however you want to call it. Muslim zoomoids will be just as western ones due to the local culture and the internet.
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 12:21
Only the original generation of Muslim immigrants will have been fundamentalist or traditional, however you want to call it. Muslim zoomoids will be just as western ones due to the local culture and the internet.
"Will be"? We already have second/third-generation Muslims who are often more religious than their parents.
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 12:21
Only the original generation of Muslim immigrants will have been fundamentalist or traditional, however you want to call it. Muslim zoomoids will be just as western ones due to the local culture and the internet.
That's blatantly untrue. All the data points towards the fact that children of Muslim migrants are oftentimes far more radical than their parents, and this trend then persists with their progeny.

The Muslim population in Western countries becomes more radical the longer they stay in the West.

In fact, if you look at the background of Muslim mass murderers, most are second or third-generation migrants.
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 08:11
and most leaders are already women today.
If your country has less people than a single US state, nobody in it is allowed to be considered a leader of anything. Fake countries who have all their problems dealt with by real countries, nothing they do matters.
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gerey wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 14:58
revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 12:21
Only the original generation of Muslim immigrants will have been fundamentalist or traditional, however you want to call it. Muslim zoomoids will be just as western ones due to the local culture and the internet.
That's blatantly untrue. All the data points towards the fact that children of Muslim migrants are oftentimes far more radical than their parents, and this trend then persists with their progeny.

The Muslim population in Western countries becomes more radical the longer they stay in the West.

In fact, if you look at the background of Muslim mass murderers, most are second or third-generation migrants.
I am talking society as a whole. Most of the fanatical alt-******* and traditional cucktholics are also from the yonger generation, yet they do not represent the demographic. It's that the most fringe elements are often the most vocal or visible.
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 16:18
I am talking society as a whole. Most of the fanatical alt-******* and traditional cucktholics are also from the yonger generation, yet they do not represent the demographic. It's that the most fringe elements are often the most vocal or visible.
They're also who drive policy. The idea of the Mighty Middle is an illusion, and has been proven such by history repeatedly.

I think what you mean to say is that you're comfortable (so far) with the direction you're being pushed. Fine. But these delusions of some return to normalcy, or the anchoring force of the Milquetoast Middle, are just that - delusions.
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Boontaker wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 07:08
Playing SWTOR yesterday is struck me that, in SWTOR when you travel from one planet to the next in your ship. You watch from the cockpit (that you can freely move around in/open inventory etc) as your ship moves into position and then hyperjumps to the destination. Then when you are ready to land it plays a short cinematic of your ship docking or landing depending on the location, with unique cinematics.

How is this handled in star field?
Except for the moving around part, basically the same.
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revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 08:11
russkies will be black
Lol, no.
You may as well not bother replying to my posts if it's to argue anything except concrete facts or your personal opinion. I still probably won't see it.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 15:56
revenant wrote: ↑ November 14th, 2023, 08:11
and most leaders are already women today.
If your country has less people than a single US state, nobody in it is allowed to be considered a leader of anything. Fake countries who have all their problems dealt with by real countries, nothing they do matters.
Not far from the truth actually but "fake countries" should be expanded to mean the entire planet, with "real countries" meaning the USA. And problems aren't dealt with, they're created.
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Todd is a living saint.
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This game ******* sucked.
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Now `Mixed` rating on Steam, making it the worst rated game Bethesda Game Studios has released on the platform, and the only non-DLC release of BGS to fall below positive.
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Hey everyone, first, we read all the feedback here and greatly appreciate it and all the time and thought you put into the game. This small update was to mostly address the “pet-asteroid" so many asked about following our last larger update, and we wanted to get that out before the holiday.

We’ve been hard at work on many of the issues you’ve posted, and expect an update early next year that will include a large number of “in-progress” quest fixes as well as FSR3 and XeSS. Though we fixed several quest issues from occurring, in-progress quest fixes are much harder to fix and we’ve built a new system to correct those without you having to roll back your save.

We’re also hard at work on many of new features you asked for, from city maps, to mod support, to all new ways of traveling (stay tuned!). These will be rolling out with a regular cadence of fixes and updates we expect to have roughly every six weeks. If something can be done in a smaller hotfix in between (like the asteroid), and we feel it’s safe, we’ll get one of those out as well. Safe is the key here. We do take a lot of time to test even the smallest change in a game this large and dynamic.

Hope this information helps. If there are items you want more info on, or issues to make us aware of, keep posting here or our official Discord. Thanks again for all your support of us and the game.

I don't remember the last time bethesda added new functionality (such as city maps, or new types of travel) in a patch. Looks like a complete lack of awards has shooked Todd to the core.

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They had baked those things into vanilla in decades past. You could fast travel to different gates of a town in previous games, no problem. More like, they cut so much this time, that the game became unplayable.
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Wow not only does the game look and play like a ****** indie early access space crafting game but it's also doing the constant updates for basic features over the span of years so the fanboys can cope and say it's "good now they fixed it!" because it went from a 3/10 to a 5/10.
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This game is just a storefront. The gameplay is barebones. The story is propaganda. The women are ugly.

The only good thing is the ship creator, but like... as generous as I am, I can't just buy the game full price just for that.
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Its a 20 dollar game.

Truly the end of an era. Todd should take religious vows before his legacy is ruined.
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The lack of city maps was honestly kind of stunning, such a massive oversight.
Only reason it wasn't too bad is they're all so ******* tiny.
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Well the game awards are over - wonder how Emil's doing now? :Inspector:



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