Underrail

[Sweeper]

This shithole has been up and running for 2 ******* months and there's still no Underrail thread?
Go **** yourself Rusty, we're having one.

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I'll create the PF:KM one later.

[rusty_shackleford]

Decent buildfag game, but I prefer ATOM RPG.

[wndrbr]

It's been a while since Styg broke or nerfed something by releasing yet another patch instead of working on Infusion, so there's nothing to talk about right now.

I was meaning to start another playthrough, this time as a psyker (never played as a full psi character before), but got sidetracked and forgot.

[Roguey]

I played this in 2017 and then put it away because I'm not particularly interested in going through it again with a different build.

[wndrbr]

^ this ***** played kingmaker on easy and skipped the final chapter for "roleplaying reasons"

[Tweed]

Great game, carries the Fallout torch forward, a shining example of what indie games should be.

[Roguey]

^ this ***** played kingmaker on easy and skipped the final chapter for "roleplaying reasons"

It was a custom difficulty.

[Fargus]

Great setting and combat is fun for the most part. A bit tryhard too but building a decent character got me through it without too much trouble.

Sadly the game is pretty much combat, annoying long walks with lots of backtracking and selling a ****** up amount of loot. It's tedious as **** with boring quests and monsters that respawn. Even worse in deep caverns i almost quit because of how tedious it was. End boss is yet another mutated "godlike" blob. Oh, and **** the crafting too.

But since its serbian game i'll give it 10\10.

[Emphyrio]

Decent buildfag game, but I prefer ATOM RPG.

I don't consider anything a true buildfag game unless it has unlimited respec.

[agentorange]

Ive attempted numerous playthroughs but never get very far. The mmo tier loot and quests grind me down.

[revenant]

Game seems to have broken my saves with my original psi character so was thinking of that as an opportunity to start with a new build, maybe AK-47 this time.

I really want to like this game because of the superb exploration value and nice atmosphere/soundtrack, however as people pointed out it's extremely tedious, mainly because of backtracking to store/sell loot. Let's see how long will I last this time.

It's funny how Styg and Vince both obviously revere Fallout but found completely different aspects of it to be the most important. While Vince opted to make build reactivity and story the most prominent feature of this game while ignoring exploration whatsoever, Styg basically made a 2D Morrowind exploration-wise while retaining the old school feel of RPG's. If there was just a game that was a sweet spot between these features...

[Fargus]

If you want auto rifle build go also for heavy armor. You need to have enough strength. And crafting. Craft the best shield, h. armor and assault rifle you can. The tedium must flow.

And i suggest classic xp instead of odities.

It's funny how Styg and Vince both obviously revere Fallout but found completely different aspects of it to be the most important. While Vince opted to make build reactivity and story the most prominent feature of this game while ignoring exploration whatsoever, Styg basically made a 2D Morrowind exploration-wise while retaining the old school feel of RPG's. If there was just a game that was a sweet spot between these features...

Neither of those devs are my go to guys when it comes to RPGs. Don't know why people fellate them so much. I guess because very few rpg indie devs can even get the job done. In that case i prefer Styg's end result over Vince's decade long journey to make the least enjoyable game possible.

[agentorange]

Neither of those devs are my go to guys when it comes to RPGs.

Who is your go to guys when it comes to RPGs? Ones that are currently alive and making games. And AoD is one of the greatest games ever made, it is a true superman work.

[Fargus]

Neither of those devs are my go to guys when it comes to RPGs.

Who is your go to guys when it comes to RPGs? Ones that are currently alive and making games. And AoD is one of the greatest games ever made, it is a true superman work.

Can't think of any.

Last classic rpg i actually finished was Underrail and i had push myself to do it. That was in 2019. Since then i dont even remember playing any oldschool rpgs other than having few nostalgia trips to replay old classics.

[Tweed]

Neither of those devs are my go to guys when it comes to RPGs.

Who is your go to guys when it comes to RPGs? Ones that are currently alive and making games. And AoD is one of the greatest games ever made, it is a true superman work.

Hero worship and brand loyalty died for me a long time ago. Everything must be taken as it comes and thoroughly examined before putting the money down because you can't trust anyone to put out a good product anymore.

[rusty_shackleford]

Game seems to have broken my saves with my original psi character so was thinking of that as an opportunity to start with a new build, maybe AK-47 this time.

I really want to like this game because of the superb exploration value and nice atmosphere/soundtrack, however as people pointed out it's extremely tedious, mainly because of backtracking to store/sell loot. Let's see how long will I last this time.

It's funny how Styg and Vince both obviously revere Fallout but found completely different aspects of it to be the most important. While Vince opted to make build reactivity and story the most prominent feature of this game while ignoring exploration whatsoever, Styg basically made a 2D Morrowind exploration-wise while retaining the old school feel of RPG's. If there was just a game that was a sweet spot between these features...

Have you played ATOM RPG?
One of the best RPGs I've played in years along with its stand-alone expansion 'sequel'. Made me rethink whether I was starting to hate RPGs rather than most RPGs were just crap.

[revenant]

I never play russian games or drive russian cars.

[rusty_shackleford]

Neither of those devs are my go to guys when it comes to RPGs.

Who is your go to guys when it comes to RPGs? Ones that are currently alive and making games. And AoD is one of the greatest games ever made, it is a true superman work.

Hero worship and brand loyalty died for me a long time ago. Everything must be taken as it comes and thoroughly examined before putting the money down because you can't trust anyone to put out a good product anymore.

Consistent quality requires consistent quality control, something the video game industry completely lacks. Quality control is how brands gain and retain brand name recognition even if the people responsible for what made their products popular leave the company.

There is nobody at Obsidian ensuring the writing quality is equivalent to what Fenstermaker, Avellone, and so forth were writing when with Obsidian which is how you get games like Outer Worlds with some of the worst writing I've seen in years. Similarly, 'Bioware Magic' really was a thing despite game journos claiming otherwise. It stopped being a thing because the developers capable of putting out games their fans enjoyed on a consistent schedule of a generally consistent quality quit, and they were replaced by people who weren't as good at their jobs.

Part of this, I suspect, is because nobody wants to be 'mean' and tell people their output is **** and it needs to improve or be fired. Also partly due to the decline in merit-based culture, instead prioritizing equality — which actually means that companies see everyone as equally replaceable cogs in a machine.

[Edit]
I think the best example of applied quality control in video games is probably Nintendo.

[rusty_shackleford]

I never play russian games or drive russian cars.

It's not Russian, most of the devs are from the baltics/Ukraine.
Amusing how many ex-Soviet country games get associated with Russia, when I looked into it I was surprised at how few quality games Russia has actually produced.

[Atlantico]

I never play russian games or drive russian cars.

It's not Russian, most of the devs are from the baltics/Ukraine.
Amusing how many ex-Soviet country games get associated with Russia, when I looked into it I was surprised at how few quality games Russia has actually produced.

It's not Russian, most devs are from Baltic Russia or Borderlands Russia and Russia.

[Sweeper]

I just saw this thread over on the Codex.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/und ... mo.143044/
Then I saw this post.

I looked into some of these people that decided to rate OPs dreadfully ******** take.

Brofisters
Kyl Von Kull said:

And **** me, New Vegas is amazing. The Avellone written DLC is amazing. I spent three months playing it almost nonstop, to the point where my girlfriend poured a bottle of soda into my PC’s innards to make me stop (I needed a new PC anyway so the joke’s on her).

Mortmal said:

I am sory but those new titles are well worth to be added next to the classics too. I am playing rpgs since the dawn of time or almost, i am not easily pleased by games and still i had fun with those
New vegas deserves to stand on the podium,no less!

Bruma Hobo said:

D:OS is a great game

PorkaMorka said:

I quit Underrail within the first 30 minutes (I made a junk character to look around the first area, but never made a real character), because I just couldn't be bothered to min max my own build by memorizing every single feat and it felt lame to just copy a build from the internet.

Mexi said:

Where is the debate? Of course, it's a worthy Fallout game. Not only that, but it's very, razor close to being better than the originals. Obsidian's world-building was just so **** good. Everything about the setting was just on-point. The experimental DLC, Dead Money, just weaved everything so **** well without looking out-of-place. I can't praise how well Obsidian did. As I said, one of the only games on the Bethesda engine I can play with very minimal mods.

Personally, Fallout: 2>=Fallout: New Vegas>Fallout: 1. Even though I have several hours of New Vegas, I think I played Fallout: 2 the most. I know the ****** NMA trash fucks hated New Reno, but that was my favorite part. Never gets old cucking Bishop. Also, saying "*Little* Jesus" ******* had me laughing my *** off seeing that dialogue. New Reno was better than the New Vegas Strip, though. They really dropped the ball there since you didn't get that intricate faction system like in Fallout: 2. I played through all the factions, and it was amazing seeing the small lore associated with each one, i.e. the

Comte_II said:

Fallout New Vegas got me pretty excited when it was released.

catfood said:

It might sound like I did not enjoy D:OS but I kinda did. I'd give the game a solid 8/10 overall.

Agreers
rusty_shackleford said:

STARFIELD STARFIELD STARFIELD

Tihskael said:

Man, watching Todd makes me genuinely happy, a shining ray of hope in this ******* shitshow of an industry. I have been telling you motherfuckers, it is the year of the Todd. Believe.

sigard said:

So.

Fallout 3.

Game that i like and hate at the same time

Jenkem said:

This game (The Outer Worlds) is not perfect but it is a fun game in the vein of New Vegas that will tide us over until ELEX 2. Simple as.

mkultra said:

JDR13 said:

Anyone who quit HZD because they didn't like the intro cheated themselves out of a great experience.

Agree... But the start IS really bad and unfortunately the second one is kind of the same (i've only played 2h on the second).. and for some reason they seem to think that the idea that it's mostly you by yourself in the first was something bad so in the second you often tag along with someone it seems like, very annoying imo. Graphically both games looks amazing, the first one still looks better than almost any current open world games including the latest Assassins Creed.

I would say the best part about the game is the graphics and the combat. The story is an absolute cringefest, the character you play is an absolute bore with no personality, no sense of humor, voice acting is not good either. A more light hearted and comic vibe would have worked better for this very, very ridiculous story, but instead they're trying to make it dark which only makes me roll my eyes throughout the main story.

Still worth playing for sure.. gonna dive into the second at some point, still have 1-2h left on the first.
Sunri said:
Most Replayed RPG of 2021
Pathfinder Kingmaker
pillars of eternity

I could've found a lot more **** takes, but I thought this was enough to illustrate my point. These people are the lowest of the low. Harbingers of decline that enjoy dogshit, uninspired video games. There opinions are literally worth nothing.

God bless his autistic heart.
On a related note, the Codex is becoming infested with all manners of *******, commies, ******, and by far the worst offenders, casuals.
We have to gatekeep the **** out of the HQ.

[GhostCow]

I've honestly thought that every time Jenkem says that a game is good or going to be good that he's just trolling

[Acrux]

Underrail is an isometric walking simulator that requires a supplemental build spreadsheet to play.

[rusty_shackleford]

Good test for whether you actually like RPGs is whether you consider ATOM or Underrail to be superior.

[Sweeper]

Underrail is an isometric walking simulator that requires a supplemental build spreadsheet to play.

And that's a good thing.

Good test for whether you actually like RPGs is whether you consider ATOM or Underrail to be superior.

ATOM strayed too close to Fallout, Underrail is superior to both.

[Emphyrio]

Good test for whether you actually like RPGs is whether you consider ATOM or Underrail to be superior.

i don't like rpgs

which do i consider superior

[wndrbr]

So apparently Styg has a twitter account where he posts sneak peeks at the upcoming "Underrail 1.5 - Infusion".



"...I also have some couple of (secret) things I have to finish in Underrail..."

My bet is that he wants to further nerf Quick Tinkering.

[Cedric]

I should replay the game. I've only played it once, on Dominating, using only throwing knives and on Oddity. When I got to Expedition my PC blew up and my save was lost.

[wndrbr]

on Dominating, using only throwing knives and on Oddity.

why did you torture yourself like that

[Cedric]

I heard you need a good build so I asked on the Codex and they said throwing knives are good.

...

You can't read the label on my reload key anymore. But I did make it. Even that fight against four plasma robots in Expedition.

I do get some perverse pleasure from reload nightmares, like low level runs, playing original KOTC 2, etc. Of course I know reloading for favorable RNG isn't exactly amazing strategy, but bringing the right tools, squeezing out every tiny advantage, that appeals to me.